WTF – Wests Tigers Faithful Podcast

Hey Guys, well done on the poddy. Good analysis on what is going on and the chat provides good interaction on the side. I think that the right edge attack is starting to come together but AD is now defensively sound (never thought I would say that) but pedestrian in attack. Our right edge is also defensively sound but the Seyfarth/Galvin combo is letting us down but we have magic outside fo them in Toa and Taruva.

I think that AD can potentially be unlocked in attack but on the right side Galvin needs strighten the attack and to dig into the line further to bring Seyfarth into the ball. Seyfarth also needs to work on his lines and timing so they both have to own and fix that problem. When Galvin sweeps to the left Luai strightens the attack and digs him into the line so he is starting to be more effective on that edge. I get the feeling that Latu on the right edge will straighten the attack and provide more opportunity (to the detriment of having the energiser bunny all over the field).

Fitting Galvin into the side if Latu comes in probably means Bird would have to drop off and I think that really weakens the rotation if we also carry TDS, but Api's defence starting to drop off with long minutes is something we would need to cover.

For mine the logical solution is Galvin to KoE once Latu is fit with him coming back into FG as a substitue for injury as it occurs. Galvin may be in the top 17 but he is not as robust as Bird and doubt he would make the difference we need as a momentum changer carrrying him as the 14.
The right edge is where all our points are being scored ? What are you talking about mate ?
Seyfarth is a rock in defence . For me I’d much rather be scoring tries through the winger and not letting in tries , than soceijg the occasional try through the edge forward , but letting in a whole lot of tries.
I have not forgotten the past 10 years down that edge Z
I think everyone needs to chill and be happy to have a defensive edge forward there for a few years .
Because that edge scores 2-3 tries a game at the moment . He’s not David Fifita . But for me , we don’t need him to be .
 
The right edge is where all our points are being scored ? What are you talking about mate ?
Seyfarth is a rock in defence . For me I’d much rather be scoring tries through the winger and not letting in tries , than soceijg the occasional try through the edge forward , but letting in a whole lot of tries.
I have not forgotten the past 10 years down that edge Z
I think everyone needs to chill and be happy to have a defensive edge forward there for a few years .
Because that edge scores 2-3 tries a game at the moment . He’s not David Fifita . But for me , we don’t need him to be .
What I'm saying is that there are deficiences on both sides of our attack. The left side attack is coming along - but AD is holding it back and the right edge is coming along but being held back by a combination of Galvin and Seyfarth.

Both Galvin and Seyfath have to own the problem on the right edge and work on it and AD needs a rocket up his arse in attack.

Surely you can't be happy with the quality in those tow areas at persent. We need to be continually looking for areas to improve and those are defintley two areas that need work.

Where in any of what I wrote did I state that Seyfarth needs to be dropped?

Yes we are scoring points on our right edge but don't you want to score more?
 
What I'm saying is that there are deficiences on both sides of our attack. The left side attack is coming along - but AD is holding it back and the right edge is coming along but being held back by a combination of Galvin and Seyfarth.

Both Galvin and Seyfath have to own the problem on the right edge and work on it and AD needs a rocket up his arse in attack.

Surely you can't be happy with the quality in those tow areas at persent. We need to be continually looking for areas to improve and those are defintley two areas that need work.

Where in any of what I wrote did I state that Seyfarth needs to be dropped?

Yes we are scoring points on our right edge but don't you want to score more?
You made a few typo’s which threw us off.
 
The right edge is where all our points are being scored ? What are you talking about mate ?
Seyfarth is a rock in defence . For me I’d much rather be scoring tries through the winger and not letting in tries , than soceijg the occasional try through the edge forward , but letting in a whole lot of tries.
I have not forgotten the past 10 years down that edge Z
I think everyone needs to chill and be happy to have a defensive edge forward there for a few years .
Because that edge scores 2-3 tries a game at the moment . He’s not David Fifita . But for me , we don’t need him to be .
Your right he is not David Fifita - Seyfarth has double the tries and double the line breaks of David Fifita this year. Last year btw both scored 4 tries each
 
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What I'm saying is that there are deficiences on both sides of our attack. The left side attack is coming along - but AD is holding it back and the right edge is coming along but being held back by a combination of Galvin and Seyfarth.

Both Galvin and Seyfath have to own the problem on the right edge and work on it and AD needs a rocket up his arse in attack.

Surely you can't be happy with the quality in those tow areas at persent. We need to be continually looking for areas to improve and those are defintley two areas that need work.

Where in any of what I wrote did I state that Seyfarth needs to be dropped?

Yes we are scoring points on our right edge but don't you want to score more?
I’m not happy , but I’m not unhappy either .
I want to win football games . And I’m huge in the belief that Alex Seyfarth contributes to that . Contrary to the group think hive mind .
He’s the guy who chases endlessly at marker to charge down a kick . He’s the guy gets back onside when he knows it’s probably a waste of effort . He’s the guy who follows the play knowing he’s probably not gonna get the ball but he puts himself in the frame just in case .
Whilst I agree the edge needs or get sharper , I’m not impressed by edge forwards who take 4 hitups a game , and they’re spectacular , might even lead to a try . But rarely get back onside , and are lazy on the edge . Which is David Fifita right now for example .
When you look at my post history , I value defence and cleanup way more than spectacular hole running . Efforts upon efforts upon efforts upon efforts . That’s what Seyfarth does . It annoys me people don’t see that or appreciate it .
 
I’m not happy , but I’m not unhappy either .
I want to win football games . And I’m huge in the belief that Alex Seyfarth contributes to that . Contrary to the group think hive mind .
He’s the guy who chases endlessly at marker to charge down a kick . He’s the guy gets back onside when he knows it’s probably a waste of effort . He’s the guy who follows the play knowing he’s probably not gonna get the ball but he puts himself in the frame just in case .
Whilst I agree the edge needs or get sharper , I’m not impressed by edge forwards who take 4 hitups a game , and they’re spectacular , might even lead to a try . But rarely get back onside , and are lazy on the edge . Which is David Fifita right now for example .
When you look at my post history , I value defence and cleanup way more than spectacular hole running . Efforts upon efforts upon efforts upon efforts . That’s what Seyfarth does . It annoys me people don’t see that or appreciate it .
I get it and see exactly where you are coming from; in fact I acknowledged the quality of the defence on both edges. In addition, Seyfarth, in my opinion, is only partially responsible for the poor execution of the attacking side of the equation. Galvin is equally responsible for not straightening the attack or digging into the line deep enough before releasing the ball. As a result Seyfarth is easily to shut down. Sure if he was a Fafita he could brobably break a couple of tackles with his strength and get a better result; bit that isn't the issue on that edge in attack.

Given Seyfarth's size and strength limitations he isn't going to skittle players to make his own hole; but, we know what is capable of if he is put into a gap. This simply means that his combination with Galvin needs to improve. They need to work out how they can hit holes, at good angles, at the ad line or they need to target a specific player and have Galvin shift them create the hole for Seyfarth. If they follow him he drops it off his hip and if they don't a simple show and go or hit Star with no inside pressure. That is about as difficult as it needs to be for that edge.

We are scoring points on that edge because Starford is standing up the opposition and Taruva is a great finisher outside of him. It is their combination, and Galvin's willingness to serve them the ball that is leading to points, not anything magic Galvin is doing.

On the other side of the paddock AD is in slow motion with the ball - no urgency, no effort to get to his feet, not providing opportunities for his winger. If his groin is holding him back we would be better served with Naden in that postion; he is making the effort. However, when Galvin swings to that side Luai strightens the attack and brings him to the line before releasing the ball. If you look at what Luai did for Galvin on the sweep this is exactly what Galvin needs to do for Seyfarth on the other edge. Address that and our right edge will start to fly.
 
I don't mean to take a shot at Galvin's defence after his wonderful effort to save a try in extra time, but he was directly responsible for missing tackles in their second and third tries. He could also be called very passive for his defence in the try that Hynes threw a 1metre forward pass right in front of the linesman.
We only hear how good this kid is, and he is but at least Ennis picked him up for a poor effort that led to their third try. Toa beat his man cold for one of our tries, but we had to mention that Galvin touched the ball four in.
It would be great to get some balance in the NRL calling as there are 12 other players on the field playing their guts out.
I get it and see exactly where you are coming from; in fact I acknowledged the quality of the defence on both edges. In addition, Seyfarth, in my opinion, is only partially responsible for the poor execution of the attacking side of the equation. Galvin is equally responsible for not straightening the attack or digging into the line deep enough before releasing the ball. As a result Seyfarth is easily to shut down. Sure if he was a Fafita he could brobably break a couple of tackles with his strength and get a better result; bit that isn't the issue on that edge in attack.

Given Seyfarth's size and strength limitations he isn't going to skittle players to make his own hole; but, we know what is capable of if he is put into a gap. This simply means that his combination with Galvin needs to improve. They need to work out how they can hit holes, at good angles, at the ad line or they need to target a specific player and have Galvin shift them create the hole for Seyfarth. If they follow him he drops it off his hip and if they don't a simple show and go or hit Star with no inside pressure. That is about as difficult as it needs to be for that edge.

We are scoring points on that edge because Starford is standing up the opposition and Taruva is a great finisher outside of him. It is their combination, and Galvin's willingness to serve them the ball that is leading to points, not anything magic Galvin is doing.

On the other side of the paddock AD is in slow motion with the ball - no urgency, no effort to get to his feet, not providing opportunities for his winger. If his groin is holding him back we would be better served with Naden in that postion; he is making the effort. However, when Galvin swings to that side Luai strightens the attack and brings him to the line before releasing the ball. If you look at what Luai did for Galvin on the sweep this is exactly what Galvin needs to do for Seyfarth on the other edge. Address that and our right edge will start to fly.
 
I don't mean to take a shot at Galvin's defence after his wonderful effort to save a try in extra time, but he was directly responsible for missing tackles in their second and third tries. He could also be called very passive for his defence in the try that Hynes threw a 1metre forward pass right in front of the linesman.
We only hear how good this kid is, and he is but at least Ennis picked him up for a poor effort that led to their third try. Toa beat his man cold for one of our tries, but we had to mention that Galvin touched the ball four in.
It would be great to get some balance in the NRL calling as there are 12 other players on the field playing their guts out.
Galvin is not the Messiah, he is a naughtly little boy (in both attack and defence)! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
This latest WestsTigers Faithful Podcast is a cracker. Loved the gun slinger analogy and the curse is broken comments.
Didn't get a chance to get to it until about midnight last night. Much prefer to engage with it live and catch the banter on the side. I think the predictiosn for this weekend are realistic, but I trust that we overperform and trouble the Storm a little. I don't expect to win but would prefer to be will in the fight for the duration than being blown out by a few quixk tries as a result of a lapse on concentration. After last week I think Mr Galvin is going to be dealing with some heavy traffic.
 
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