Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
He is, but his yardage carries tonight were garbage and his defence not much better.
Our 2-5 is easily the slowest in the NRL and even adding Taylan May, that doesn’t change.
Then add our back rowers being the slowest in the NRL and it paints a picture as to why we offer little to no attacking threat from distance and opposing teams are able to compress their defence and make it hard for us to get out of our danger zone.
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agree with all of that, but that’s the point - he’s our only real threat that can create something out of nothing outside of our halves, beats his man more often than not . his defence needs big improvement
 
tigahhh said:
agree with all of that, but that’s the point - he’s our only real threat that can create something out of nothing outside of our halves, beats his man more often than not . his defence needs big improvement
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Assuming Taylan May rediscovers his best, he would automatically become our best outside back.
We would still need to add one outside back with plenty of speed, I’m predicting someone like Deine Mariner will become available and he would be the type of player who runs the ball strongly and also has plenty of speed, so I think he would certainly help us.
Say something like that happens, it would mean we have To’a, Turuva and Skelton fighting for 2 positions, who would miss out ?
 
Teams know that they just need to attack down Turuva’s wing and he will eventually make a mistake. It was worrying to see that none of the tries were scored through kicks - they just stripped us for numbers.

That’s a coaching thing to me. Also I think Sukkar should play on that side as he does help in defence
 
bbobb said:
Teams know that they just need to attack down Turuva’s wing and he will eventually make a mistake. It was worrying to see that none of the tries were scored through kicks - they just stripped us for numbers.

That’s a coaching thing to me. Also I think Sukkar should play on that side as he does help in defence
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I said in the off season that Turuva was known to make poor defensive reads at Penrith & got absolutely rinsed on here lmao
 
Juice said:
I said in the off season that Turuva was known to make poor defensive reads at Penrith & got absolutely rinsed on here lmao
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You have to be careful in the preseason telling truths.
That’s the time of year owned by the sycophants.
They have mostly hibernated by now having been proven incorrect for the 14th year in succession. lol….
 
I'm of the opinion the issue with us all comes down to our owners. Richo comes out and defends the clubs finances and says they're improving. That's great, though we're still massively underfunded and have been since the merger started. We can't compete with the bigger clubs. It boggles my mind how Wests Ashfield that's flush with cash can just let us flounder so long on a shoe string budget. We're the poverty team of the comp and shouldn't be. Hbg need to seriously start pumping money into the joint. We just can't compete at the moment. It's been like this from day one, we've never really had the funds to compete with the best. We can't keep running things off the smell of an oily rag. I wish Hbg would start dumping money into the joint so it can get fixed, or privatise to someone who isn't just going to use the Tigers as a tax writeoff.
 
Vicious said:
Assuming Taylan May rediscovers his best, he would automatically become our best outside back.
We would still need to add one outside back with plenty of speed, I’m predicting someone like Deine Mariner will become available and he would be the type of player who runs the ball strongly and also has plenty of speed, so I think he would certainly help us.
Say something like that happens, it would mean we have To’a, Turuva and Skelton fighting for 2 positions, who would miss out ?
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I'd say Skelton...

Turuva isn't going anywhere.
Hes a real threat for us.

Mariner is an upgrade on all of then tbh.
I'd love a line up like;

1. Jahream Bula
2. Sunia Turuva
3. Deine Mariner
4. Starford Toa
5. Taylan May

Our boys Makasini, Mapapalangi & Tui'tupou-Thomspon as back up, with perhaps a Charlie Staines too.

> better than what we've got at the moment in the likes of Naden, Feledy & AD [lacking as a centre for mine]
 
We don't need better players, we don't need more money, we can't blame injuries or Galvin or Gould or the refs, it's not the facility we train at, it's not the ground we call home, it's not that we need just another 3 or 4 quality players or that we just need our juniors to mature...it doesn't take much cash to setup cones at training, you just have to know what you're doing.

We've walked into a train wreck here where half our best players are devoted to Benji and the other half stopped playing for him and left. To sack him would be to rip everything apart once again in year 14 or so of ripping it apart and starting again. We seem to have completely destroyed another promising set of juniors, if they were ever so, and we are staring into the reality of a huge and obvious mistake in hiring an unqualified coach with inadequate guidance. What an absolute horror show. I love Benji, wow his play changed what I thought was possible on the rugby league field, but this club destroys absolutely everyone it touches.

Against Manly I believe we saw the new Tiger's version of Terrell May locked in: lethargic and slow, getting through the minutes. It took just over half a season to properly brake his spirit. Welcome to the Klemmer, tamou, Stefano mediocrity club, where props go to disappear. I suppose it's not possible to really compete when you witness such disorganisation and your efforts get your team nowhere but more mediocrity.

In order to persist with something you have to be able to see improvement, see a spark and a pathway to success. This season has only found us out once again. Teams have gone to another level this season as it has gone on, they've gotten better in their structures and it's more obvious how they want their attacking and defensive movement to work. Our team has collapsed. Yes, we never really did much at the start of the season, but good teams and coaches go through that sort of phase and build from it and refine and lift.

I'd say this game revealed more than any other the total fallacy of progress, of belief in what Benji is doing. It was too many mistakes, too many shifts, too little structure, no clarity. So many moments where there are matches where the club has a chance to prove something and responds by being flatter than ever.

I was against sacking sheens version 1, I was confused by both of his replacements, I never felt Madge go a shot at a proper roster and was ripped down in the year before he had a chance but I think we have decent enough players this year, enough for better than this and, while I've never really felt it was the coach and that you can expect much from changing them...

I'm really sorry Benji, but you have to go. It's time to try again.
 
Vicious said:
Assuming Taylan May rediscovers his best, he would automatically become our best outside back.
We would still need to add one outside back with plenty of speed, I’m predicting someone like Deine Mariner will become available and he would be the type of player who runs the ball strongly and also has plenty of speed, so I think he would certainly help us.
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Mate ..with respect this must be the 5th time you have mentioned him, this week ,,, I think most of us get it by now…

Is there anything at all to suggest he is linked with coming to the club ? I mean, I’d like Haas or Farnsworth to move here too if we are just picking names
 
Demps said:
I'd say Skelton...

Turuva isn't going anywhere.
Hes a real threat for us.

Mariner is an upgrade on all of then tbh.
I'd love a line up like;

1. Jahream Bula
2. Sunia Turuva
3. Deine Mariner
4. Starford Toa
5. Taylan May

Our boys Makasini, Mapapalangi & Tui'tupou-Thomspon as back up, with perhaps a Charlie Staines too.

> better than what we've got at the moment in the likes of Naden, Feledy & AD [lacking as a centre for mine]
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To me that looks much more potent and that’s no disrespect to Jeral Skelton, I just think we lack that one extra player with genuine speed and quality out wide to make us a genuine threat when we shift the ball, particularly from distance when our opponents compress their defence to try and box us in.
I’m noticing the Bulldogs are often doing this tj great effect, but when we try we just do t have the speed to do it effectively.
With that lineup you have named above if To’a or Turuva are not playing well, Skelton could come in for them and as you say we would still have younger talent such as Luke Laulilli, Makasini, Mapapalangi etc developing while playing NSW Cup and pushing their cause if their form is too good to ignore.
If it’s not Mariner it needs to be someone else with plenty of speed and plenty of class to give our backline a better balance and give us a chance.
 
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BAGNF05 said:
To’a attitude is the issue. Some games like last night he just looks disinterested. A strike centre needs to attack the winnable games.
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Always said Toa has the attributes we need and we should stick with him. However last night worried me big time. He was back to his lazy self and it comes off rumours he has resigned. If he extends his contract then drops back to the lazy stuff he was doing the past 2 years then that will be shockingly disapointing
 
king_sirro said:
Always said Toa has the attributes we need and we should stick with him. However last night worried me big time. He was back to his lazy self and it comes off rumours he has resigned. If he extends his contract then drops back to the lazy stuff he was doing the past 2 years then that will be shockingly disapointing
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When we need a strong backfield carry he goes missing completely. That’s enough for me to move him on.
 
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