Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tigerstigerstigers]

I think the Mole is off with this info.
Old news.

We've got more important things to work out from our end.

ADs future.
Buds future.
If we're keeping Staines, Tuitupou and KMapz.

Strengthening our pack.

I would say your last point is the biggest need. Our pack isn’t dominating . It’s not even getting us into attacking position. A lot of changes needed in the pack

 

[weststigers]

If Khan-Pereira had no skills and no ticker, how is it that he is the only player in the game that is currently to scoring at better than a try per game, has the record for the fastest player ever to reach 50 tries ?
As for the yardage Taylan May will help with that more and more once he gets more games under his belt and if we had Makasini or Laulilli or any other centre that wasn’t lame, they would also be assisting with our yardage.
No way in the world Khan-Persira misses that tackle on Jenkins with 5m of space to work with and you can bet your bottom dollar Khan-Pereira would have scored under the sticks if he found himself in that since To’a did.

Ok Vicious. If Khan-Pereira is so good. Why is he in reserve grade at the Titans who are coming last? Or are they comjng last because he is not in the team?

Hasler is not an idiot, so I'd like to hear your explanation.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Nah, I'm not.

But my best man was for 23 years until he didn't come home to his kids one night.

So I'm pretty sensitive to the job they have to do and the trash they have to deal with.

It's f&%ked.

And while I get the frustration towards cops at times; the vast, vast majority of them are good people working a horrible job.

I don't want to make a thing out of it, I just wanted to add a bit of perspective on a viewpoint like that.

I'm sorry to hear about your mate Kelce, it's just frustration spewing out when you get a fine through the mail when you had no idea you were caught, it feels like a revenue grab to me, surely you have the right to pulled over and told you are over the speed limit you can live with that.

Anyhow whinge over.

 

[weststigers]

Gallant was Wests Pathways advisor, Bronson was Balmain pathways advisor. If they're now both in new roles who are replacing them in pathways?

I don't know. From what I could understand Gallant goes to recruitment and Harrison is "Head of Pathways" now. Does that mean he will do both Wests/Balmain? Couldn't find anything more than that.

 

[Vicious]

Ok Vicious. If Khan-Pereira is so good. Why is he in reserve grade at the Titans who are coming last? Or are they comjng last because he is not in the team?

Hasler is not an idiot, so I'd like to hear your explanation.

Hasler like Benji is trying to sacrifice speed by playing bigger bodies and thinking that alone will help win the yardage battle.
This theory works IF you have class and genuine strike or x-factor within your team, we don’t have that luxury, therefore we need players who will finish off every half chance we get.
Our half chances currently result to nothing.and that’s not good for our end results.

 

[weststigers]

My recollections of Koroibete at least at that time was that he was absolutely fearless with his contact, he seemed to have very little consideration when it came to self preservation, you would have to have thought at the time that you could probably be a fair chance of turning him into a half decent sort of defender with a bit of work.

He left when Potter was coach. He was horrific under the high ball and made some curious defensive decisions, but if you remember, Sheens brought him in pretty raw. He was with us for 4 years and by that time, Potter had no faith.

They worked hard on him at Melbourne and then he buggered off to rugby when he was a more complete package.

 

[weststigers]

You’re right but I believe a key issue is the club can’t afford to get higher level assistants.

HBG are cashed up but are only putting in the bare minimum.

At least that is what I’ve heard.

Their contribution to Wests Tigers is published each year in their annual report available on their website. It's there in black and white.

 

[Kelce68]

I'm sorry to hear about your mate Kelce, it's just frustration spewing out when you get a fine through the mail when you had no idea you were caught, it feels like a revenue grab to me, surely you have the right to pulled over and told you are over the speed limit you can live with that.

Anyhow whinge over.

Completely understandable Stevo.

 

[weststigers]

Hasler like Benji is trying to sacrifice speed by playing bigger bodies and thinking that alone will help win the yardage battle.
This theory works IF you have class and genuine strike or x-factor within your team, we don’t have that luxury, therefore we need players who will finish off every half chance we get.
Our half chances currently result to nothing.and that’s not good for our end results.

He's played 11 games for the Titans this year for 2 wins. Is he really the difference maker you think he is?

 

[hank37w]

Melbourne certainly did, there was very few defensive issues once he played for them and it was history repeating with Addo-Carr.
We have been fascinated with slow boring wingers for 10 years and funnily enough we have also failed to make the finals during that time.
As I keep saying it’s not just the wingers, but when in combination we have a slow back row, slow halves, slow centres and slow wingers it becomes a problem.

Not to mention slow between the ears.

 

[tigerballs]

He left when Potter was coach. He was horrific under the high ball and made some curious defensive decisions, but if you remember, Sheens brought him in pretty raw. He was with us for 4 years and by that time, Potter had no faith.

They worked hard on him at Melbourne and then he buggered off to rugby when he was a more complete package.

Absolute beast who terrified his opposite. Scored some tries no-one else could.

Google that tackle he made against South Afrika on the opposite winger. Will never happen again!

 

[weststigers]

Nah, I'm not.

But my best man was for 23 years until he didn't come home to his kids one night.

So I'm pretty sensitive to the job they have to do and the trash they have to deal with.

It's f&%ked.

And while I get the frustration towards cops at times; the vast, vast majority of them are good people working a horrible job.

I don't want to make a thing out of it, I just wanted to add a bit of perspective on a viewpoint like that.

It's not the cops. It's the government. They make the rules. Cops just enforce them.

 

[weststigers]

Absolute beast who terrified his opposite. Scored some tries no-one else could.

Google that tackle he made against South Afrika on the opposite winger. Will never happen again!

No doubt, but when he was with us he was a liability.

Here are some of the comments people were making back when he was in the team.

M

Thread 'Marika Koroibete'

Mar 9, 2014

So it's gotten to the point where he literally just stands there and watches people score, Or backs up over the try line in defence.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. he is the WORST DEFENDER i have ever seen play first grade football.

I dont ever want to see him in first grade in our colors again.

• Majere77

 

[Vicious]

He's played 11 games for the Titans this year for 2 wins. Is he really the difference maker you think he is?

He would give us a long range attacking threat that we do not currently have.
Now that we have a classy left centre in Taylan May and another classy emerging centre in Makasini it would be great to have someone with the speed and class to turn the half chances they create into line breaks and tries from distance, not just when we are in the red zone.
It doesn’t necessarily have to be Khan-Pereira as other good attacking options in Sione Fainu and Sam Stonestreet are also currently available.
Skelton as right centre should also be an option rather than just considering him a winger only.

 

[balmain boy]

if you knew anything about our pathways you’d know they’re actually very strong atm & there is NRL talent coming through

None of our pathways teams made the finals. So while there was a couple of decent players in each team, other teams all had as many if not more talented players than we did.

One of the current flaws the club has is the overestimation of our quality and the perception that we don't need to scout outside the south west. I think the main reason we don't scout outside our region is funding.
Also the lack of recruiting athletes with the physical traits needed for NRL level, though we have started to improve in that area in past 6 months

 

[weststigers]

He would give us a long range attacking threat that we do not currently have.
Now that we have a classy left centre in Taylan May and another classy emerging centre in Makasini it would be great to have someone with the speed and class to turn the half chances they create into line breaks and tries from distance, not just when we are in the red zone.
It doesn’t necessarily have to be Khan-Pereira as other good attacking options in Sione Fainu and Sam Stonestreet are also currently available.
Skelton as right centre should also be an option rather than just considering him a winger only.

Let me ask you.

Skelton has the size and strength.

Khan-Pereira or Stonestreet have the speed.

Skelton can't score long range tries, but gets a lot of barge overs because he's big and strong + he gets the yardage.

Can Khan-Pereira get the same tries Skelton scores without the stregth and size?

Don't you win some and lose some whoever you choose?

 

[Vicious]

No doubt, but when he was with us he was a liability.

Here are some of the comments people were making back when he was in the team.

M

Thread 'Marika Koroibete'

Mar 9, 2014

So it's gotten to the point where he literally just stands there and watches people score, Or backs up over the try line in defence.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. he is the WORST DEFENDER i have ever seen play first grade football.

I dont ever want to see him in first grade in our colors again.

• Majere77

A prime example why some players just need a change of clubs or better coaching to get their defence up to scratch.

 

[balmain boy]

Havili set to move as NRL veterans wait on contracts

Almost 90 NRL players are facing uncertain futures with close to one-sixth of the league still unsigned beyond October.

aapnews.aap.com.au

Unless we have another bench utility who can play dummy half up our sleeve, I damn well hope we're talking to Havili who can cover hooker & be a powerful middle off the bench. This is 100% an area of need for us next season as Hope doesn't have the versatility & Haywood is at least 12-18 months away.

We re-signed Hope as backup hooker and Mason as a utility. So sadly we don't really have room to accommodate another. Mason is still a way off being a Watson type 14 though, Murray on a Dev deal might be another option. but we just don't have roster space for another, unless we move more players on

 

[weststigers]

A prime example why some players just need a change of clubs or better coaching to get their defence up to scratch.

Well done to Melbourne. They made him better. Still had a shocker in him, but they can defend their errors. We didn't have that luxury.

 

[Vicious]

Let me ask you.

Skelton has the size and strength.

Khan-Pereira or Stonestreet have the speed.

Skelton can't score long range tries, but gets a lot of barge overs because he's big and strong + he gets the yardage.

Can Khan-Pereira get the same tries Skelton scores without the stregth and size?

Don't you win some and lose some whoever you choose?

Correct and as I keep saying Skelton is not a bad player, but within the team we currently have we have a noticeable lack of strike from long distance, how is that a good thing ?
So that being the case doesn’t common sense tell us we need to do something to change it and that means sacrificing some players for others that give us what we are lacking.
At the end of the day you ideally need at least 3 spare outside backs that add competition and quality whenever required, much the same as it iis with the forwards, but that’s a whole other issue.