Khod Hand Investigation

What Phil Gould actually said/meant (translated version):

"I love all the post-try celebration stuff. I love the way the media gets distracted by it. I love the way the players react to the fans the way they potentially offend fans. When you score a try against the Bulldogs, celebrate with your teammates, and make sure to bring the carry on. Because, if you want to promote all that and do all that, then you're going to get this sort of stuff, where the media actually forgets about us losing to the 3-time wooden spooners on the back of signing the greatest kid I’ve ever seen, but never actually met and parachuting him into the team going 4/7 wins compared to the 10/12 without him. "


"I like post-try celebrations. I like players running up to the crowd and celebrating, because that distracts everyone from the teams performance," he said. “The league will deal with this (Tigers incident) and no one will remember the game itself. So, if you keep wanting to promote that stuff…particularly in the rain, it muddies what everyone sees and this is what it's going to lead to."

You are all very welcome.
 
innsaneink said:
What a nark.

Phil Gould criticises promotion of post-try celebrations​

Speaking on the 'Six Tackes with Gus' podcast this week, Bulldogs general manager Phil Gould said the NRL only has itself to blame for the over-promotion of post-try celebrations. That's despite 'Try July' – an NRL/Sportsbet initiative which encourages players to perform animated routines after scoring - raising close to $2 million for various causes since its inception in 2020.

Gould said: "I hate all the post-try celebration stuff. I hate the way we encourage it and promote it. I hate the way we promote the way the players react to the fans. When you score a try, celebrate with your teammates. I don’t like all that (carry on). But if you want to promote all that and do all that, then you're going to get this sort of stuff."


Gould did not mention Try July by name, but added: "I don’t like post-try celebrations. I don’t like players running up to the crowd and celebrating, because that leads itself to whatever you’re going to get," he said. The league will deal with this (Tigers incident). But if you keep wanting to promote that stuff… you want the rain, you better put up with the mud. This is what it's going to lead to."
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Is there anything that Mr Gould is not a self-professed expert in?
About football?
About life?
About anything?
 
weststigers said:
You've not read my post correctly judging by your response. Including my sarcastic dig at your occupation.

No idea as usual.
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weststigers...if your aim is genuine dialogue with @Bus 2 Terrigal , then lines like "no idea as usual" and sarcastic digs at someone's occupation, whatever it may be, don't help.

They don't clarify your pov, they just cloud it.
He has raised points worth discussing, and you reducing it to a personal swipe undermines meaningful conversation.

We should be able to disagree without resorting to condescension.
 
Tom Shines said:
Gould is quite cranky these days ..always complaining about a sport that has employed him all his adult life and literally paid him 10 million plus
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He thinks he owns the sport.
He has contempt for the administration, the judiciary, the media and the fans.
His revisionist history is pathetic.
The bloke is they worst thing in the code and the sooner he disappears the better.
 
BZN said:
weststigers...if your aim is genuine dialogue with @Bus 2 Terrigal , then lines like "no idea as usual" and sarcastic digs at someone's occupation, whatever it may be, don't help.

They don't clarify your pov, they just cloud it.
He has raised points worth discussing, and you reducing it to a personal swipe undermines meaningful conversation.

We should be able to disagree without resorting to condescension.
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Thanks for your input, but most of us are sick of being called evil white racists. There is no tolerance left in that particular discussion.
 
Typical media beat up on the tigers. As said previously we have more Arabic players than the bulldogs team. So who has the rights to do the khawd, not really clear?? Look should we be gesturing the khawd, probably not, it’s not a smart idea. But in recent photos of all the dogs players doing it after game photos, they should either. Do maybe we should put I a formal complaint, and all the non Arab dogs players can be also given a warning, if the NRL is fair?????????????????
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
I must of missed that post.

Can you point me in the direction of the “called us evil, white racists” quote 🙄
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Here you go. Spinning it into a racial thing. Sure...you didn't exactly say thise words, but I didn't make that accusation either. It's just your post is dripping with the same talking points and buzzwords. No one is buying what you're selling anymore. Grifter...

Bus 2 Terrigal

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What most seem to be ignoring with regard Hand Gesture-Gate is the racial element. Had Adam Doueihi and Alex Twal been the players in question I don’t see much drama. Yet we had players of non Arabic heritage using an Arabic hand gesture to say “up yours” to a group of fans with Arabic heritage. This adds a racially mocking dimension to the episode. Imagine a trio of white dudes mimicking spear throwing at an aboriginal section of the crowd etc ...

As for comments about Bulldog fans deserving it. Trouble there is you can’t lump them all in together. Some Canterbury fans carry on like...
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weststigers said:
Here you go. Spinning it into a racial thing. Sure...you didn't exactly say thise words, but I didn't make that accusation either. It's just your post is dripping with the same talking points and buzzwords. No one is buying what you're selling anymore. Grifter...

Bus 2 Terrigal

Post in thread 'Khod Hand Investigation'

What most seem to be ignoring with regard Hand Gesture-Gate is the racial element. Had Adam Doueihi and Alex Twal been the players in question I don’t see much drama. Yet we had players of non Arabic heritage using an Arabic hand gesture to say “up yours” to a group of fans with Arabic heritage. This adds a racially mocking dimension to the episode. Imagine a trio of white dudes mimicking spear throwing at an aboriginal section of the crowd etc ...

As for comments about Bulldog fans deserving it. Trouble there is you can’t lump them all in together. Some Canterbury fans carry on like...
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Your not good with nuance are you Fridgey !

Suggesting there was a “racial element” to why our boys were sanctioned/warned by the NRL is quite a few furlongs short of calling everyone “evil white racists” - whether you reckon I was dripping or not.

If there was no racial/cultural element then why were we sanctioned at all ?

Old boy, we are living in an era fixated on identity, perceived privilege, quotas, optics and victim hood rankings. I find much of it insane but it is what it is. The NRL and its clubs have no option but to work within this contemporary framework and that (in my opinion) was why our boys copped a stern warning (ie the guts of my original post).

You rant n rave and carry on like a dinosaur from 1975, but things have changed buddy. Ross ‘Skull’ May is no longer peering over the back fence at Kogarah Oval. Ted Bulpitt, Eddie Booth and Alf Garnett have disappeared from our TV screens, We have designated rounds to honour the games diversity and generally prefer our players treat fans with some level of respect (no matter how intensely they may be baited).

Calm done - reread my paragraph with joy in your heart and go and treat yourself to a kebab 👍
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
Your not good with nuance are you Fridgey !

Suggesting there was a “racial element” to why our boys were sanctioned/warned by the NRL is quite a few furlongs short of calling everyone “evil white racists” - whether you reckon I was dripping or not.

If there was no racial/cultural element then why were we sanctioned at all ?

Old boy, we are living in an era fixated on identity, perceived privilege, quotas, optics and victim hood rankings. I find much of it insane but it is what it is. The NRL and its clubs have no option but to work within this contemporary framework and that (in my opinion) was why our boys copped a stern warning (ie the guts of my original post).

You rant n rave and carry on like a dinosaur from 1975, but things have changed buddy. Ross ‘Skull’ May is no longer peering over the back fence at Kogarah Oval. Ted Bulpitt, Eddie Booth and Alf Garnett have disappeared from our TV screens, We have designated rounds to honour the games diversity and generally prefer our players treat fans with some level of respect (no matter how intensely they may be baited).

Calm done - reread my paragraph with joy in your heart and go and treat yourself to a kebab 👍
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I'm far younger than you "old boy" and this framework you talk about should be rejected in its entirety. Not parroted and accepted. Thanks for your lecture though.
 
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