Only ONE section involves me talking about south west sydney as a whole in which I subsequently linked Campbelltown LGA to that specific point. My entire post literally revolved around the Campbelltown LGA, tell me how it dishonestly didn't do that? You were also the one to link a document talking about the SWSLHD.
To your second point. You do know the number you are referencing is South West area not Campbelltown? I thought you wanted to talk about Campbelltown? Secondly, you clearly haven't read the document correctly, but also the document doesn't make much sense in this area. But below is the real number you should be looking at for SWSLHD
You can see the contradiction here on page 15
Table 2 is meant to show the pacific people born in Australia by shows them by country of birth.
Anyway there is no point dwelling on what that outdated document said, because I have gone to the ABS and made some tables using the census data from 2021 (Note: Participants were allowed to select up to 2 ancestries)
In the Campbelltown LGA there are: 12,528 Pacific Islanders (excl. Hawaiians). The largest groups being Samoa 5299, Maori 2040, Fiji 1878, Tonga 1822 which make up 88% altogether (these are countries/ancestries with typically greater presence in NRL).
Also in Campbelltown there are: 2047 Vietnamese, 6052 Chinese, 4858 Nepalese, 2722 Pakistanis, 10590 Indians, 5670 Bangladeshis and 7190 Filipinos. All of them are smaller than the total Pacific Islander conglomerate (and don't say blah blah grouped together as I think combined all these nations would have a substantially lower population than any other country listed, (2.5million compared to 29 million from Nepal)).
Additionally, these population groups (incl. Pasifika) combine to make 51,657 out of 176,519 people or 29.3%. So much for "Indians, Filipinos and Chinese ... [making] up the vast majority of the South West" when they only take up 13.5% of the population.
Now we have Campbelltown out of the way let's extend this (PS, this "catchment information" was sourced from
here).
Wests Catchment
Camden - Total 119,315, Pasifika 3,116 (2.6%), Vietnamese 872 (0.7%), Chinese 2808 (2.3%), Nepalese 1100 (0.9%), Pakistani 931 (0.8%), Indian 4860 (4.1%), Bangladesh 656 (0.5%), Filipino 2645 (2.2%)
Liverpool - Total 233,446 , Pasifika 10,669 (4.6%), Vietnamese 12,736 (5.5%), Chinese 12697 (5.5%), Nepalese 2314 (1%), Pakistani 3140 (1.3%), Indian 14033 (6%), Bangaldeshi 1392 (0.6%), Filipino 6688 (2.9%)
Wollondilly - Total 53961, Pasifika 477 (0.9%), Vietnamese 98 (0.2%), Chinese 425 (0.8%), Nepalese 11 (0.02%), Pakistani 36 (0.07%), Indian 222 (0.4%), Bangladeshi 14 (0.02%), Filipino 272 (0.5%)
Balmain Catchment
Inner West - Total 182,818, Pasifika 2060 (1.1%), Vietnamese 4345 (2.4%), Chinese 15,463 (8.5%), Nepalese 2059 (1.1%), Pakistani 218 (0.1%), Indian 3544 (1.9%), Bangladeshi 246 (0.1%), Filipino 3290 (1.8%).
Canada Bay - Total 89,177, Pasifika 674 (0.8%), Vietnamese 1299 (1.5%), Chinese 14,453 (16.2%), Nepalese 1084 (1.2%), Pakistani 215 (0.2%), Indian 3032 (3.3%), Bangladeshi 99 (0.1%), Filipino 1483 (1.3%).
Burwood - Total 40,217, Pasifika 369 (0.9%), Vietnamese 1141 (2.8%), Chinese 13,193 (32.8%), Nepalese 2964 (7.4%), Pakistani 94 (0.2%), Indian 1450 (3.6%), Bangladeshi 71 (0.2%), Filipino 745 (1.9%)
Strathfield - Total 45,593, Pasifika 549 (1.2%), Vietnamese 1417 (3.1%), Chinese 9756 (21.4%), Nepalese 3145 (6.9%), Pakistani 371 (0.8%), Indian 5005 (10.9%), Bangladeshi 222 (0.5%), Filipino 871 (1.9%)
Ryde - Total 129,923, Pasifika 939 (0.7%), Vietnamese 1571 (1.2%), Chinese 33,744 (26%), Nepalese 830 (0.6%), Pakistani 671 (0.5%), Indian 6194 (4.8%), Bangladeshi 510 (0.4%), Filipino 3575 (2.8%)
So I think it's plainly clear to pretty much anyone that if Indian/Chinese/Filipino/Nepalese etc. etc. descended persons are not gonna be footy fans or whatever then CLEARLY we should play at Campbelltown instead of Leichhardt right? I mean if you are going to complain that all the new immigrants to the Campbelltown area from these Asians countries mean our supporter base will be non-existent/not grow then why does is it ok that the LGA's surrounding Leichhardt have significantly higher proportions of Asian descended persons?
Now we will look at some more "rugby league friendly ancestries" (in addition to Pasifika we've already seen). Australian, Uk based ancestries (+ Ireland), Indigenous (Aboriginal + Torrest Strait Islander), New Zealander and Lebanese to see if that has any bearing on anything.
Wests Catchment
Campbelltown - Total 176,519, Australian 43804 (24.8%), Indigenous 7093 (4%), NZ 1282 (0.7%), UK+Ire 59392 (33.6%), Lebanese 4168 (2.4%)
Camden - Total 119,315, Australian 39041 (32.7%), Indigenous 3845 (3.2%), NZ 893 (0.7%), UK+Ire 52236 (43.8%), Lebanese 2234 (1.9%)
Liverpool - Total 233,446, Australian 36374 (15.6%), Indigenous 3883 (1.7%), NZ 927 (0.4%), UK+Ire 40758 (17.4%), Lebanese 13,883 (5.9%)
Wollondilly - Total 53961, Australian 23486 (43.5%), Indigenous 2397 (4.4%), NZ 388 (0.7%), UK+Ire 32136 (59.6%), Lebanese 551 (1%)
Balmain Catchment
Inner West - Total 182,818, Australian 44681 (24.4%), Indigenous 2248 (1.2%), NZ 1883 (1%), UK+Ire 99,053 (54.2%), Lebanese 3373 (1.8%)
Canada Bay - Total 89,177, Australian 15,723 (17,6%), Indigenous 557 (0.6%), NZ 530 (0.6%), UK+Ire 29,950 (33.6%), Lebanese 2484 (2.8%)
Burwood - Total 40,217, Australian 3853 (10%), Indigenous 195 (0.5%), NZ 123 (0.3%), UK+Ire 7213 (17.9%), Lebanese 1722 (4.3%)
Strathfield - Total 45,593, Australian 3757 (8.2%), Indigenous 252 (0.6%), NZ 81 (0.2%), UK+Ire 6394 (14%), Lebanese 2684 (5.9%)
Ryde - Total 129,923, Australian 20800 (16%), Indigenous 676 (0.5%), NZ 670 (0.5%), UK+Ire 36377 (28%), Lebanese 2341 (1.8%)
Seems pretty clear cut to me out of Campbelltown or Balmain which one has the more potential for future players or fans. Not to mention that the Inner West (LGA where Leichhardt Oval is located) population grew by less than 800 people in 5 years between 2016 and 2021. That's 0.4% over 5 years while Campbelltown grew by over 18,000 which is 11.4% over 5 years or 28.5x greater than the Inner West.
PS. I'm not a Magpies fan or a Balmain fan. I have never gone for either team only Wests Tigers, nor have I ever lived in either catchment area, nor did any of my parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/cousins/siblings/friends go for either team. I am a pure Wests tigers fan and given that the significant growth of the South-West area, especially considering the development of Australia's first city in a century, Bradfield, being located a 25 minute drive NW of Campbelltown Stadium it makes a whole lot of sense to ensure we are developing the South-West. To be clear, I believe in a 6-4/7-4 stadium split because Leichhardt is still incredibly important to the Tigers DNA but emphasis must be placed on the South West for long-term performance both on and off the field.
