Breaking news: HBG takeover

Vicious said:
You would think the truth will be revealed soon.
The HBG would surely know their position will come under the microscope from PVL and the NRL should they be found to telling lies and making up the reason why the independent board members were removed.
So it will be a win/win for Wests Tigers as PVL and the NRL will find a way tj dismiss the HBG association with Wests Tigers, or if they had a legitimate reason to dismiss Barry O and the other independent board members, there will be a lot of Wests Tigers supporters eating humble pie.
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I actually think HBG have gotten so used to dismissing boards or members, that they didn't understand the gravity of it this time. None of these guys face the media or accountability, so they would tend to live a little bubble.

The fact that they had the CEO, someone who is not involved, face the media says everything to me about these guys. Weak and afraid of their position.
 
Lestronge said:
Once again you dance around facts . You say people are dismissing the video , I paraphrase the video , and you dismiss it … and you say you’re not acting in bad faith …. Please 🙏
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As I stated earlier, you are on the jury and have made your decision without hearing the evidence.
HBG will get turfed out by the NRL if they are proven to have told lies to suit their agenda.
 
weststigers said:
To those waiting for "the truth" to be revealed. The truth has been revealing itself since HBG took control and accelerated when they consumed 90% of the club.

How many board room explosions can one club have in such a short space of time? There's only one common denominator.
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That is passing judgment based on previous history.
 
magpies forever said:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, if its the logo / emblem thats the problem, Tigers / Magpies- just remove that friction and become something new, whilst acknowledging both original Tigers & Magpies with equivalent shoulder flashes. Dunno what though Im sure people can come up with options. Yonks ago I suggested 'bushrangers' as a neutral, new name.
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Yes, you did, I remember that as I made a positive comment about it.
 
magpies forever said:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, if its the logo / emblem thats the problem, Tigers / Magpies- just remove that friction and become something new, whilst acknowledging both original Tigers & Magpies with equivalent shoulder flashes. Dunno what though Im sure people can come up with options. Yonks ago I suggested 'bushrangers' as a neutral, new name.
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What about a mythical Creature of some sort I was thinking


Oozlum bird (English) – A satirical creature that flies in ever-decreasing circles until it disappears into its own backside

The one above sounds about right
 
Vicious said:
Obviously I don’t have the answers as I don’t know the truth.
1. My understanding based on the statement from DP is the HBG Wests Tigers board members were not kept in the loop, hence why it was considered a major problem.
2. They obviously cannot pass back information that is being kept secret from them.
3. It would be a serious breach of trust if only some Wests Tigers board members are making important decisions without consulting with all of the Wests Tigers board members.
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All Wests Tigers board members (including the HBG elected ones) are present at the board meetings so this is just a load of rubbish.
 
hammertime said:
I actually think HBG have gotten so used to dismissing boards or members, that they didn't understand the gravity of it this time. None of these guys face the media or accountability, so they would tend to live a little bubble.

The fact that they had the CEO, someone who is not involved, face the media says everything to me about these guys. Weak and afraid of their position.
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Possibly.
There is also a possibility that others see this and see it as an opportunity to try and take advantage of the situation.
 
Vicious said:
Obviously I don’t have the answers as I don’t know the truth.
1. My understanding based on the statement from DP is the HBG Wests Tigers board members were not kept in the loop, hence why it was considered a major problem.
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Ok so I am just following your lead here...

You are quoting one side and defending it as fact, because why would he lie...

So let's quote the other

“There’s been no issues within our board. There’s never been a vote on our board. It’s always been unanimous,” O’Farrell told Macdonald, adding that the minutes of board meetings did not reflect any Holman Barnes representatives raising concerns about a lack of communication.

So why would he lie?


Vicious said:
2. They obviously cannot pass back information that is being kept secret from them.
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If a board meets for a vote, then how is it possible for the independent directors to hold a secret vote and exclude members of the board? I don't even think it's legally possible....

Vicious said:
3. It would be a serious breach of trust if only some Wests Tigers board members are making important decisions without consulting with all of the Wests Tigers board members.
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THe Wests tigers board don't need to consult every single HBG member outside the 2 on the Wests tigers board - that's crazy talk.. It's not how business works... HBG have their 2 representatives on the Wests tigers board for that exact reason..

It's like saying that if I have stocks in Woolworths then they need to consult me on every decision... It's crazy talk bra
 
WesternSuburbsBoy said:
All Wests Tigers board members (including the HBG elected ones) are present at the board meetings so this is just a load of rubbish.
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You know for a fact that the important decisions that DP alluded to were taken to board level ?
It sounded very much like he was insinuating they were not taken to board level and that is the issue.
 
It is obvious that the HBG were not happy with the internal review and its findings. Also it would appear they reluctantly went along with the recommendations. Only last year Julie Remano ( please excuse the spelling) was trying to pull the rug on the recommendations that were put in place. So now they throw everything out the window by chopping the independent members of the board and revert back to the lame system we had before the review.

If this was something out of the current White House I would not be surprised but to destroy all the great work done in the past 12 months because you basically have a bruised ego is insane. Even if some resolution is found and things revert back to something close to what they were a couple of days ago, our brand name has yet again taken a massive hit and there is a real chance we never recover from it.

The sad thing is if your political party stuffs up you get the chance to vote them out, with HBG you can’t do a thing, they answer to nobody
 
Vicious said:
You have no facts, but have made up your mind.
Your decision, you stick with it.
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Fact - HBG have 2 members on the tigers board
Fact - Patton stated in a press release and in video that the main reason for dismissal was lack of clarity between the 2 boards / the HBG weren’t told about key issues
Fact- it’s not the independent board members responsibility to relay information to HBG. That’s Deniss Burgess job .
Fact - Patton then stated that another reason was that the wests tigers board had been manoeuvring to gain more and more independence and control over decision making , by trying to implement KPIs which move toward this outcome .
I’ve stated no facts right ? I could keep going , but I’m over it . I’ve proved my point . You’re a dickhead champ !
 
mtd#2 said:
Ok so I am just following your lead here...

You are quoting one side and defending it as fact, because why would he lie...

So let's quote the other

“There’s been no issues within our board. There’s never been a vote on our board. It’s always been unanimous,” O’Farrell told Macdonald, adding that the minutes of board meetings did not reflect any Holman Barnes representatives raising concerns about a lack of communication.

So why would he lie?




If a board meets for a vote, then how is it possible for the independent directors to hold a secret vote and exclude members of the board? I don't even think it's legally possible....


THe Wests tigers board don't need to consult every single HBG member outside the 2 on the Wests tigers board - that's crazy talk.. It's not how business works... HBG have their 2 representatives on the Wests tigers board for that exact reason..

It's like saying that if I have stocks in Woolworths then they need to consult me on every decision... It's crazy talk bra
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You are now assuming what Barry O stated today is true factual information.
The way I interpreted the comments from DP yesterday are very different.
As I keep saying the truth will be revealed and it would not look good for the HBG in the eyes on the NRL if they have lied to suit their own agenda.
 
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