Breaking news: HBG takeover

[cochise]

Sorry @cochise going to call this out.

I won’t debate our current owners are crap, but all versions

I thought Balmain sold that club to developers on the recommendation of a club legend.

100%, our ownership group is terrible. HBG holds all the power though

 

[BZN]

HBG would never have gained the dominant shareholder and financial position it holds today if it weren’t for the mismanagement of Kristina Keneally and the Labor Government in 2010.

The old Balmain Leagues Club was forced to close in 2010 to make way for a proposed metro station, a project that never happened.

This closure put enormous financial pressure on Balmain. Ultimately, HBG, under the guise of bailing out Balmain, effectively executed a financial takeover.

What they failed to realise was that this also hurt critical pathways programs in the inner west and Ryde, which in my opinion has contributed to our poor performance since 2010.

I personally can’t see HBG’s behaviour changing anytime soon. What we need is a private consortium genuinely passionate about the Tigers and Magpies to step in and convince the NRL that the current governance by HBG is harming the brand.

I feel there is a dinosaur writing this post, re hashing things from 2010.
Let it go and you'll feel a lot better.

 

[Vicious]

I can imagine the 3 reasons (consultation, stadium deals and the jersey) given for the sacking happened in different time frames. I find it strange that these issues weren't brought up independently as they happened by HBG, and as stated by the independent board members they were unaware of any issues until yesterday. To me it looks like HGB have had this in the planning for some time and have just waited until they fabricated enough firepower based on an exaggeration of a shade of truth, at the right time of the year.
Just a poorly disguised power grab in my opinion.

Possibly true.
Do you think PVL and the NRL will let it rest of the dismissal of the independent board members are found to be unwarranted or unfair dismissal ?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think the HBG are stupid enough to bring themselves under the spotlight once again if they did not have good reason to dismiss them.

 

[Goyougoodthng]

There is no doubt the HBG have a poor track record and if they are found to have told lies to get rid of the independent board members to suit their agenda, I don’t think it will end well for them in regards to their NRL licence.
How can you be certain the independent board members had no agenda ?

I believe their agenda was helping to create a successful sporting organisation, at least that's what their track record over the past 11 months suggests.

 

[cochise]

Mate we have been dealing with the infighting with this mob for years. They stab each other in the back ahead of the best interests of the club.
No one needs reminding under their control we have never played a finals game and have taken out three wooden spoons - and yet they remain untouchable accept to each other.
The independents had no agenda other to do whats best for WTs and up until yesterday most supporters would have been content with the last twelve months with their involvement. Today on the back of the actions of HBG we find ourselves at war again.

The HBG have knifed 8 directors, including 3 chairs and a CEO in the last 18 months across 2 boards.

 

[Vicious]

That's not a nice way to speak about @Vicious just because he is presenting a different view to you.
Why do people have to be so unkind?

His username says it all, he’s living in a fantasy world.
You cannot educate imbeciles, but it doesn’t hurt to keep trying.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Mate we have been dealing with the infighting with this mob for years. They stab each other in the back ahead of the best interests of the club.
No one needs reminding under their control we have never played a finals game and have taken out three wooden spoons - and yet they remain untouchable accept to each other.
The independents had no agenda other to do whats best for WTs and up until yesterday most supporters would have been content with the last twelve months with their involvement. Today on the back of the actions of HBG we find ourselves at war again.

It's like a recurring nightmare isn't it, just when you think it's over they raise their ugly heads again, they just won't stay silent.

Hoping with the NRL involvement it comes to a head and they find them at fault.
I don't know what action they could take but the harsher the better against this mob.

 

[Vicious]

Aren’t there minutes of these board meetings where these major decisions were made?

Who do those minutes record as attendees?

Were the HBG representatives there?

If so the only failure in communication was from the HBG representatives back to the board that appointed them.

Otherwise it smacks of sour grapes and sacking the independents to ensure they have control, because they weren’t getting their own way.

I haven’t seen the minutes, have you ?
I reckon the NRL might request a copy of the minutes of all recent board meetings.

 

[Leck]

Your Wests Tigers debenture board is -

• John Hardgrove
• David Gilbert
• Julie Romero
• Dennis Burgess
• Stephen Montgomery
• Vince Tropiano
• Kevin Hammond,
• Daniel Lane
• Clare Burgess
• Fiona Shand
• Russell Smith
• Brian Cook
• Mick Liubinskas
• Scott Beynon
• Peter DiMichiel

Feel free to email them, I won't post there email addresses here but they are widely available online. They should be held accountable for their actions.

 

[BAGNF05]

Yes if one of two people become open minded because of it, the world will be a better place.
How is this a bad thing for Wests Tigers as PVL and the NRL will find a way to banish the HBG involvement with Wests Tigers if they are found to have lied to suit their agenda.

That we can agree on. The microscope needs to turn on HBG.

 

[Leck]

I feel there is a dinosaur writing this post, re hashing things from 2010.
Let it go and you'll feel a lot better.

You can feel what ever you like. Good luck!

 

[Goyougoodthng]

Possibly true.
Do you think PVL and the NRL will let it rest of the dismissal of the independent board members are found to be unwarranted or unfair dismissal ?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think the HBG are stupid enough to bring themselves under the spotlight once again if they did not have good reason to dismiss them.

Their track record suggests that HGB could well could be stupid enough, again and again and again.....

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Why are you just totally dismissing what DP stated yesterday ?
Do you have concrete evidence to be certain it is not true ?

In multiple post I have said one or both isn’t telling the truth.

You have defended Daniel without concrete proof whilst also mentioning rumors about the situation targeting Barry on multiple points that contradicted what Barry said today. Yet you haven’t acknowledged that - you have gone all in to defend Daniel with nothing re Barry.

You’re the one not being balanced.

 

[Vicious]

I believe their agenda was helping to create a successful sporting organisation, at least that's what their track record over the past 11 months suggests.

Even people stuck in the bat cave realise there is no chance Wests Magpies will ever be re-admitted to the NRL.
That being the case, what benefit is it to the HBG to want Wests Tigers to continue to fail ?

 

[Dr_Ice]

You are now assuming what Barry O stated today is true factual information.
The way I interpreted the comments from DP yesterday are very different.
As I keep saying the truth will be revealed and it would not look good for the HBG in the eyes on the NRL if they have lied to suit their own agenda.

The minutes of the board meetings will have the facts.

 

[BAGNF05]

Obviously I don’t have the answers as I don’t know the truth.
1. My understanding based on the statement from DP is the HBG Wests Tigers board members were not kept in the loop, hence why it was considered a major problem.
2. They obviously cannot pass back information that is being kept secret from them.
3. It would be a serious breach of trust if only some Wests Tigers board members are making important decisions without consulting with all of the Wests Tigers board members.

You have interpreted that statement differently to everyone else. He never said WT board members were keeping information from each other.

 

[BZN]

Yes...exactly

His true colours are shining thru

Take it easy big fella or this will start to sound like a Kangaroo Court, one in all in.
@Vicious is entitled to a fair hearing without being sworn at, accused or abused.

 

[Vicious]

In multiple post I have said one or both isn’t telling the truth.

You have defended Daniel without concrete proof whilst also mentioning rumors about the situation targeting Barry on multiple points that contradicted what Barry said today. Yet you haven’t acknowledged that - you have gone all in to defend Daniel with nothing re Barry.

You’re the one not being balanced.

95% of Wests Tigers supporters are believing one side of the story without knowing the truth.
No problem to suspect the HBG are the ones in the wrong, but we do not know for sure just yet.
If they are the ones in the wrong, I honestly think PVL and the NRL will intervene and find a way to revoke their licence.

 

[BAGNF05]

Up till now I think there is about 900 posts where various people have jumped to conclusions.

A forum of opinions operates like that doesn’t it. We all have opinions on here. But someone coming in and making something up (calling it a rumour) and then arguing it as fact, that’s always likely to get the response it deserves.

 

[Vicious]

The minutes of the board meetings will have the facts.

💯
I’m glad someone understands.