CEO - Shane Richardson

[innsaneink]

Can you remove the clique without removing the debenture system?

Like s/w sydney crime gangs...they slowly remove themselves...unfortunately innocents get caught up in the culling as well

 

[innsaneink]

I agree with the first part.
Some disagree and are adamant our NSW Cup team must be Wests Tigers, even though Brisbane and Melbourne do not feel the need to have their feeder teams replicate the name of their NRL team.
As for the debenture system, I am very sketchy on how it exactly works, but my understanding their is a current t clique involving 3 of 4 internationals who are currently in control and the others have not yet reached that status.
I’m tipping there is a huge chance of an internal challenge as a result of the recent events.

Youre tipping?
Its been reported widely dennis' position is under threat...id imagine a few others also

 

[426Tlgerland]

Does anyone know the structure of the new Perth bears , eg board members , voting , membership to vote football club , maybe HBG should be told they have 2 years to set up our club the same , this would be a great start as NRL have just bought party back in

 

[Kelce68]

Seems not.

Some are calling for management and governance change others are calling for a sale of the Wests Tigers others still a name change.

Seems factional.

Incorrect.

And people like yourself are continuing to muddy the waters.

The message is clear;

Return the club to a structure of independent governance.

If HBG cannot return the Wests Tigers Football Club to an independently governed entity, then either sell, replace the current board or have the NRL step in to ensure this outcome (administrator appointment, licensee regulations, etc).

No one involved in the rally is looking for a name change. In fact, the messaging has been crystal clear, it's the literal opposite.

You're just another in a long-line of meddlers trying to undermine fans doing what they can to rescue a club being held to ransom.

 

[BAGNF05]

Incorrect.

And people like yourself are continuing to muddy the waters.

The message is clear;

Return the club to a structure of independent governance.

If HBG cannot return the Wests Tigers Football Club to an independently governed entity, then either sell, replace the current board or have the NRL step in to ensure this outcome (administrator appointment, licensee regulations, etc).

No one involved in the rally is looking for a name change. In fact, the messaging has been crystal clear, it's the literal opposite.

You're just another in a long-line of meddlers trying to undermine fans doing what they can to rescue a club being held to ransom.

It’s actually a pretty small crew of them.

 

[twentyforty]

Youre tipping?
Its been reported widely dennis' position is under threat...id imagine a few others also

Which position? WT director? Magpies chair? HBG chair? debenture holders?

 

[weststigers]

Incorrect.

And people like yourself are continuing to muddy the waters.

The message is clear;

Return the club to a structure of independent governance.

If HBG cannot return the Wests Tigers Football Club to an independently governed entity, then either sell, replace the current board or have the NRL step in to ensure this outcome (administrator appointment, licensee regulations, etc).

No one involved in the rally is looking for a name change. In fact, the messaging has been crystal clear, it's the literal opposite.

You're just another in a long-line of meddlers trying to undermine fans doing what they can to rescue a club being held to ransom.

I don't think she's doing it out of malice. A lot of nonsense being thrown around about the core issues including by PVL himself assuming it's a Balmain v Wests scuffle.

Best try to fill in the gaps for people.

The real agitators have made themselves known.

 

[Vicious]

Incorrect.

And people like yourself are continuing to muddy the waters.

The message is clear;

Return the club to a structure of independent governance.

If HBG cannot return the Wests Tigers Football Club to an independently governed entity, then either sell, replace the current board or have the NRL step in to ensure this outcome (administrator appointment, licensee regulations, etc).

No one involved in the rally is looking for a name change. In fact, the messaging has been crystal clear, it's the literal opposite.

You're just another in a long-line of meddlers trying to undermine fans doing what they can to rescue a club being held to ransom.

Return the club to a structure of independent governance Is the most important thing that is required and can easily be done to at least plug a few holes for the time being.

 

[Kelce68]

Return the club to a structure of independent governance Is the most important thing that is required and can easily be done to at least plug a few holes for the time being.

Agree mate.

 

[Tom Shines]

Return the club to a structure of independent governance Is the most important thing that is required and can easily be done to at least plug a few holes for the time being.

Independent governance that cannot be removed on a whim by HBG… this is the minimum required

 

[Odessa]

I agree with the first part.
Some disagree and are adamant our NSW Cup team must be Wests Tigers, even though Brisbane and Melbourne do not feel the need to have their feeder teams replicate the name of their NRL team.
As for the debenture system, I am very sketchy on how it exactly works, but my understanding their is a current t clique involving 3 of 4 internationals who are currently in control and the others have not yet reached that status.
I’m tipping there is a huge chance of an internal challenge as a result of the recent events.

I heard Bennett say when at the Dragons he likes the reserve grade team playing similar structures to the first grade team so when the player is called into first it's better for everyone

 

[Vicious]

Independent governance that cannot be removed on a whim by HBG… this is the minimum required

I agree and I’m hopeful that’s a condition PVL puts on the licence if it is to remain with HBG.
I believe a fair compromise is for that to happen and in return there is an agreement that our NSW Cup team structure does not change at least for the next few years.

 

[Tom Shines]

I agree and I’m hopeful that’s a condition PVL puts on the licence if it is to remain with HBG.
I believe a fair compromise is for that to happen and in return there is an agreement that our NSW Cup team structure does not change at least for the next few years.

I couldnt care less about the NSW Cup team …and I doubt what happens there is influencing any decision made by HBG..

 

[Vicious]

I couldnt care less about the NSW Cup team …and I doubt what happens there is influencing any decision made by HBG..

I’m not saying it is or it isn’t, but if that’s all that is needed to sway a large number of Wests Tigers supporters with a connection to Wests Magpies to be content and agree a return to independent governance is urgently required, then why not just agree to leaving our NSW Cup team alone for the time being,
It’s an easy compromise to help re-unite Wests Tigers in my opinion.

 

[BAGNF05]

I’m not saying it is or it isn’t, but if that’s all that is needed to sway a large number of Wests Tigers supporters with a connection to Wests Magpies to be content and agree a return to independent governance is urgently required, then why not just agree to leaving our NSW Cup team alone for the time being,

In terms of importance right now it’s less than one percent

 

[Tom Shines]

I’m not saying it is or it isn’t, but if that’s all that is needed to sway a large number of Wests Tigers supporters with a connection to Wests Magpies to be content and agree a return to independent governance is urgently required, then why not just agree to leaving our NSW Cup team alone for the time being,

Who is even mentioning that the NSW Cup team name is an issue ?

 

[tig_prmz]

Incorrect.

And people like yourself are continuing to muddy the waters.

The message is clear;

Return the club to a structure of independent governance.

If HBG cannot return the Wests Tigers Football Club to an independently governed entity, then either sell, replace the current board or have the NRL step in to ensure this outcome (administrator appointment, licensee regulations, etc).

No one involved in the rally is looking for a name change. In fact, the messaging has been crystal clear, it's the literal opposite.

You're just another in a long-line of meddlers trying to undermine fans doing what they can to rescue a club being held to ransom.

Not trying to nitpick, but the fact that HBG could still remove independent board people means that there was no independent governace to begin with.

The other thing is that we need money. Sponsorships, memberships and the NRL grants are clearly not enough. Brisbane, Melb, Cowboys etc put down a lot more money than we do. Don't quote me but I believe Broncos put down $80m into Broncos in 2024 whereas Wests Tigers had around $27m (including NRL grants) HBG is still putting money into WT, even if it's less than any other club.

If there is complete indpendency and HBG cannot profit off WT which is the case right now, why would they continue to invest in it? Now forget HBG, any other company, why would they as well?

There is a cap I believe for the Top 30 in terms of playing staff and coaching staff but someone with more knowledge than I can confirm whether your JF, Andrew Johns, Laurie Daley cup etc has a cap?

We have one of the largest junior bases but have the least amount of money going into the club. Imagine how little money is spent per team/ per player if that's the case?

I have no idea what the solution is or what the governace structures are in other clubs. But trying to think out loud.

Richo has said that we were profitable for the first time this year. Now, was that because the costs were slashed further or we went out and got new sponsorships? Didn't we actually lose Brydens as a sponsor this year? Maybe the new sponsor paid more.

We have teams in almost every single men's, women's, youths, boys comp. Is that too many teams for what we can actually afford? Let's say our operating budget is $30m for all the teams combined, should we cut down on teams?

I feel like we don't even know 10% of what's actually happening TBH. I may have misunderstood a lot of this, so happy for someone to correct me and discuss further.

 

[Vicious]

Who is even mentioning that the NSW Cup team name is an issue ?

It has not been mentioned as an issue, but if it can be used as a compromise to change nothing and still assist in the independent governance being reinstated, it would be a good thing wouldn’t it ?

 

[Tom Shines]

It has not been mentioned as an issue, but if it can be used as a compromise to change nothing and still assist in the independent governance being reinstated, it would be a good thing wouldn’t it ?

You can only use it as a compromise if the other side (HBG) values it…. Hey if that’s actually the case ..then go for you life …I suspect it doesn’t mean much to them when it comes to giving up control of the NRL team though

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

If HBG is still there come the start of season, I hope there is some appetite amongst supporters to protest outside the gate on game day. If there is, I am very keen to be involved 👍

Would be good to see more outside the ground than in.