HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

OK, thank you for your very kind and respectful words Sir 🙂, much appreciated.
But not only that, I'm truly honoured that a "VIP" WTF member would actually bother to reply to someone that is considered so low on here by 99%, due to the fact I'm a WESTS TIGERS follower since 2000~~ that prev. followed the Mighty Wests Magpies, and show my apparent disloyalty according to 99% on here, by still taking an interest in the Magpies.

[[[And by the way, Cochise told me he actually goes to Wests Magpies matches AND is a MEMBER OF WESTS MAGPIES....WOW 😀and I ask you how good is it that he takes an interest in the Wests Magpies NSW Cup team, WOW.
Many on here have told me I'm disloyal...
is Cochise disloyal also???]]]

I imagine this disclosure would be a great shock to you as I feel you must read my posts with only one eye, as the other one was pecked out by a Magpie when you were skylarking on your 3 wheeled training skateboard.

I'm actually really pleased you've told me 'people have had enough of me AND my posting', that I antagonize people, that you could have replied to 50 or more posts of mine just today [that's b/s as I have never done anywhere near 50 posts in one day] and each one of them show "a very annoying trend of posting everything in bold type".

Yep, you're 💯correct.

Now to address your very bold,
bold type claim.
As I've already said, you only look at WTF with one eye, so for that reason you would NOT have noticed 99% of the posters on here are anti-Magpie, some more so than others, and I suggest 90% of that 99% express their feelings accompanied with abuse, and again some more so than others. You must be very surprised, maybe even shocked.

But what is NOT surprising is 99% of the posters on here that say positive things about Wests Magpies do not use abusive language.

And I'll bet y'all thinkin 'but there's only 2 or 3 that post on here fairly often with another 2 or 3 that jump in when they feel it's necessary'.
Now I can hear y'all thinkin 'why is that so'.
Well, I'll tell y'all...it's because of the abuse that any and every poster that says anything positive about the MAGPIES is made to feel very unwelcome and it's been happening for MANY years.

In closing I say~~this is definitely not about me.

I'm simply attempting to get decent and reasonable people to read the words with both eyes open and a clear mind.
Then, if you like my post say so OR if you don't like my post say so.

My thanks to anyone that had enough patience to get this far.

As this post will probably be deleted and I'm suspended AGAIN...
I'd like to take this opportunity to wish EVERYONE a Very Happy
Christmas and probably more important~~ a SAFE CHRISTMAS.
🎄✝️🎅🎄🤶✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🤶🎄⛪✝️🎅🎄🤶🎄✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🎄
Okey dokey, bye bye, hope you get a couple of months this time, many happy returns.
 
If Darcy and many others get their way, that Magpies jersey will become extinct as they do not want the Magpues in any shape or form, not in NSW Cup, not in the junior reps.
I dont think anyone knows his thoughts,

If Magpies in NSW cup makes some people happy for now, then thats an OK compromise.

I think it is stronger to have the same Branding at all levels of competition and it will eventually be that way when the old diehards are gone.
 
OK, thank you for your very kind and respectful words Sir 🙂, much appreciated.
But not only that, I'm truly honoured that a "VIP" WTF member would actually bother to reply to someone that is considered so low on here by 99%, due to the fact I'm a WESTS TIGERS follower since 2000~~ that prev. followed the Mighty Wests Magpies, and show my apparent disloyalty according to 99% on here, by still taking an interest in the Magpies.

I imagine this disclosure would be a great shock to you as I feel you must read my posts with only one eye, as the other one was pecked out by a Magpie when you were skylarking on your 3 wheeled training skateboard.


I'm actually really pleased you've told me 'people have had enough of me AND my posting', that I antagonize people, that you could have replied to 50 or more posts of mine just today [that's b/s as I have never done anywhere near 50 posts in one day] and each one of them show "a very annoying trend of posting everything in bold type".

Yep, you're 💯correct.

Now to address your very bold,
bold type claim.
As I've already said, you only look at WTF with one eye, so for that reason you would NOT have noticed 99% of the posters on here are anti-Magpie, some more so than others, and I suggest 90% of that 99% express their feelings accompanied with abuse, and again some more so than others. You must be very surprised, maybe even shocked.

But what is NOT surprising is 99% of the posters on here that say positive things about Wests Magpies do not use abusive language.

And I'll bet y'all thinkin 'but there's only 2 or 3 that post on here fairly often with another 2 or 3 that jump in when they feel it's necessary'.
Now I can hear y'all thinkin 'why is that so'.
Well, I'll tell y'all...it's because of the abuse that any and every poster that says anything positive about the MAGPIES is made to feel very unwelcome and it's been happening for MANY years.

In closing I say~~this is definitely not about me.

I'm simply attempting to get decent and reasonable people to read the words with both eyes open and a clear mind.
Then, if you like my post say so OR if you don't like my post say so.

My thanks to anyone that had enough patience to get this far.

As this post will probably be deleted and I'm suspended AGAIN...
I'd like to take this opportunity to wish EVERYONE a Very Happy
Christmas and probably more important~~ a SAFE CHRISTMAS.
🎄✝️🎅🎄🤶✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🤶🎄⛪✝️🎅🎄🤶🎄✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🎄
"Y'all" need to relax
 
If Darcy and many others get their way, that Magpies jersey will become extinct as they do not want the Magpues in any shape or form, not in NSW Cup, not in the junior reps.
There you go making shit up again and speculating which is apparently fine when it happens to align with your delusional pro-HBG views.

You just can’t help yourself when it comes to talking out of both sides of your mouth, can you?

Like I said previously, no integrity. Much like your HBG buddies coincidentally enough.
 
OK, thank you for your very kind and respectful words Sir 🙂, much appreciated.
But not only that, I'm truly honoured that a "VIP" WTF member would actually bother to reply to someone that is considered so low on here by 99%, due to the fact I'm a WESTS TIGERS follower since 2000~~ that prev. followed the Mighty Wests Magpies, and show my apparent disloyalty according to 99% on here, by still taking an interest in the Magpies.

[[[And by the way, Cochise told me he actually goes to Wests Magpies matches AND is a MEMBER OF WESTS MAGPIES....WOW 😀and I ask you how good is it that he takes an interest in the Wests Magpies NSW Cup team, WOW.
Many on here have told me I'm disloyal...
is Cochise disloyal also???]]]

I imagine this disclosure would be a great shock to you as I feel you must read my posts with only one eye, as the other one was pecked out by a Magpie when you were skylarking on your 3 wheeled training skateboard.

I'm actually really pleased you've told me 'people have had enough of me AND my posting', that I antagonize people, that you could have replied to 50 or more posts of mine just today [that's b/s as I have never done anywhere near 50 posts in one day] and each one of them show "a very annoying trend of posting everything in bold type".

Yep, you're 💯correct.

Now to address your very bold,
bold type claim.
As I've already said, you only look at WTF with one eye, so for that reason you would NOT have noticed 99% of the posters on here are anti-Magpie, some more so than others, and I suggest 90% of that 99% express their feelings accompanied with abuse, and again some more so than others. You must be very surprised, maybe even shocked.

But what is NOT surprising is 99% of the posters on here that say positive things about Wests Magpies do not use abusive language.

And I'll bet y'all thinkin 'but there's only 2 or 3 that post on here fairly often with another 2 or 3 that jump in when they feel it's necessary'.
Now I can hear y'all thinkin 'why is that so'.
Well, I'll tell y'all...it's because of the abuse that any and every poster that says anything positive about the MAGPIES is made to feel very unwelcome and it's been happening for MANY years.

In closing I say~~this is definitely not about me.

I'm simply attempting to get decent and reasonable people to read the words with both eyes open and a clear mind.
Then, if you like my post say so OR if you don't like my post say so.

My thanks to anyone that had enough patience to get this far.

As this post will probably be deleted and I'm suspended AGAIN...
I'd like to take this opportunity to wish EVERYONE a Very Happy
Christmas and probably more important~~ a SAFE CHRISTMAS.
🎄✝️🎅🎄🤶✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🤶🎄⛪✝️🎅🎄🤶🎄✝️⛪🎅🎄✝️🎄

What you fail to notice in everything is that I myself (along with a fair few that dispute your posts, who I hold great respect for having spoken with them on here for years, or read their reasoned posts for as long) are Western Suburbs people.

I grew up with them as my team (yes as a 3 or 4 year old liked the Knights, but that was me living up there and having no idea about the sport, just that they were around and had a presence), but from the moment I moved to Campbelltown I was a Magpies fan. I still remember walking down Queen Street in Campbelltown and getting signed images from a young up and coming player outside David Wilson's Chemist (that young player being Jason Taylor), or in the later years of the club having Tommy sitting in the old coaches box at Campbelltown (down the leagues club end) smoking away watching the game. I own my several Magpies jerseys within my jersey collection, and am happy to wear them with pride when I want to, and have bought many remakes as the originals no longer fit me, but I also know that since 1999 the Magpies exist in history in first grade, and that my team, the team that I go out and support with all my heart, that I fight for whenever someone wants to have banter about football clubs, be it in the streets, or with people I work with, or family, the same one that I pay for my membership every year and attend as many games that I can at all our home grounds, is the Wests Tigers. And despite deep inside my soul there being a place for the Magpies, they purely now belong only on the sleeve of our jerseys as that is where we wear our heart for them.

And with that, I want to see the Wests Tigers succeed in every aspect, both on and off the field, and I have seen that be tarnished, and destroyed over the years by mismanagement both from within the Wests Tigers offices as well as from the ownership group. The divides that have existed between the old boys of Wests and Balmain, and the complete misguided power grabs that have existed over the time. The highs the lows, but over the last 15 years, and especially in those more recent, that isn't happening. I had hope last year with the independent review, but my heart was broken when the recent events occured. And it breaks my heart even more when my mother says she is nearly done with them as well. This from a woman who supported Balmain for the vast majority of her life, and has now and will forever be a Wests Tigers supporter.

I do not take my beliefs in the club and how it has been run from anyone on here, I read the articles, I follow the media, and I listen to the discussions all over the internet, some accurate, some very biased, some just outright wrong. But I listen, I read, and I form my own opinions based on the facts that come through from it all. Is everything being told? No, but there is enough from enough sources to build the correct picture, and as someone who has undertaken enough study in my life and have learnt how to understand bias and interpret sources for accuracy, I feel that the opinion that I have is accurate, and that I know it is likely very much correct as it aligns with the vast majority.

You are in your right to have your own opinions, however, when the vast majority have one opinion, it is common to have your say, and move on if you don't like the response, not go personal with the attacks, or to try and discredit people. The attacks you make, the fact you don't accept that your opinion is not appreciated purely based on the way that you go about it sprouting it, and not because of any bias, not because of any one eyed view, but because people have actually put time into understanding the situation and want to have a civilised conversation, but you are not about it, shows that your intent is to not be a part of the conversation, but to be the one to control or destroy it.

That is exactly the same as what is happening with HBG, they want to do what they want, when they want, how they want. But that is not how it works in sports. The fans are the reason the clubs exist, that there is pride in teams, that the sport itself can be successful. They are custodians of the license, and the fans are the ones they should be looking after to grow the game. But they are not, it is all about them, and as you have so clearly put, if things don't work out, they, just like you, want the Western Suburbs Magpies back. As I said before, the Magpies died as a first grade team in 1999. Let the past be the past, and lets move forward with the club that we all have supported since that day, and from the deepest part of me hope that we do for the rest of our lives, and for many many generations to come, the Wests Tigers. Owners of licenses come and go, the fans exist throughout.

You are not the only one that goes along these lines in the way you present your opinion, but the way you have gone about it, with the bolded text to make sure your posts are seen above everyone else's is why I have needed to speak up against your posts, but much of the words spoken above go out to them as well.

But the one thing that needs to be known is that we will not allow HBG to get away with what they are doing, and if that means that we make the moves to remove the issues, then that is what we ALL have to do. Not be divided by attacks from them against the club, or by members against each other.

One voice, One team. Wests Tigers, Not Magpies, Not Balmain.
 
Used to play against Berala at Rego Pk...funnily enough I played for Holman Jns
Poor Yappy wouldnt like all this

Our late mate Geo played for Berala too

I used to play against Berala, I played for St Christpohers. Wasn't always like that, I think there was a bit of swapping between Wests and Canterbury teams.

Yappy, one of the originals on the forum, early 2000s, passionate and loved to speak his mind. Plenty of Blamian vs Wests back then, no holes barred.
 
Whatevers best for the Wests Tigers.

Personally like the idea of junior Balmain and Wests teams

At the junior level that does make a lot of sense, as we have multiple catchment areas that we can get kids from, and a single team/club setup wouldn't work, either for the numbers that we could have playing, or the travel logistics for parents and kids going to training.
 
If Darcy and many others get their way, that Magpies jersey will become extinct as they do not want the Magpues in any shape or form, not in NSW Cup, not in the junior reps.
They are still represented in the name Wests Tigers, what else do they need, if all the grades use the name would that not be a beginning to finally be rid of the us vs them.
 
I used to play against Berala, I played for St Christpohers. Wasn't always like that, I think there was a bit of swapping between Wests and Canterbury teams.

Yappy, one of the originals on the forum, early 2000s, passionate and loved to speak his mind. Plenty of Blamian vs Wests back then, no holes barred.
I meant Yappy Holman
 
Sure...does the government own parliament house? Or ultimately, is it the people?

No one on HBG owns anything...it's not private ownership. The issue isn't about 90% owners getting a 90% say in how things are run, it's that they are unaccountable to the people that they draw money from to control those assets.

It would all go away if members could vote.
Sure...does the government own parliament house? Or ultimately, is it the people?

No one on HBG owns anything...it's not private ownership. The issue isn't about 90% owners getting a 90% say in how things are run, it's that they are unaccountable to the people that they draw money from to control those assets.

It would all go away if members could vote.
Ok sir, if you want to be technical I stand corrected. HBG doesn't own 90%, it controls 90% or at least should.
Wests Magpies own 90% of Wests Tigers so this should give them a controlling vote on the board when necessary and without being unfair.
I believe Wests Magpies value and care about their members and lots of people in the community through their generous donations.

I don't see any reason whatsoever for WESTS MAGPIES to yield control to anyone, at least until such time that we have a board that RESPECTS each other and things are running smoothly.

So, Imo you will never get WESTS MAGPIES to yield by using the tactics y'all have adopted.
 
Ok sir, if you want to be technical I stand corrected. HBG doesn't own 90%, it controls 90% or at least should.
Wests Magpies own 90% of Wests Tigers so this should give them a controlling vote on the board when necessary and without being unfair.
I believe Wests Magpies value and care about their members and lots of people in the community through their generous donations.

I don't see any reason whatsoever for WESTS MAGPIES to yield control to anyone, at least until such time that we have a board that RESPECTS each other and things are running smoothly.

So, Imo you will never get WESTS MAGPIES to yield by using the tactics y'all have adopted.
I actually agree with you. I think HBG should have control of decisions based on their 90% control.

The issue I have is there are only 20 people to choose from to control those decisions and they cannot be removed. Australia is a big place...I'd like to open up the talent pool and the fans of the club to be able to vote in the best people to run the club.

These are 2 separate issues. I agree with you on one of them. I think most do. It's the small group that hold all the power and the way it's tightly held amongst these individuals that I disagree with.
 
It is nothing to do with wanting to "wipe out" the Magpies, that simply isn't true.

It makes absolutely no sense to have Flegg as WT, NSW Cup as Wests Magpies and first grade as Wests Tigers.

It makes absolute sense to have Flegg, NSW Cup and first grade all aligned as Wests Tigers.
You are simply on a power trip h_t.
You are trying to claw back something you simply don't deserve atpit.
The anti-Wests Magpies crowd have to realise you haven't served an honest enough apprenticeship yet to be handed the keys to the club.

If and when things settle down before 2030, we could have a very harmonious happy club.
But I really can't see that even starting to take place with the tactics you are all being forced into atm by people that have a Very Strong Grudge against WESTS MAGPIES.
 
You are simply on a power trip h_t.
You are trying to claw back something you simply don't deserve atpit.
The anti-Wests Magpies crowd have to realise you haven't served an honest enough apprenticeship yet to be handed the keys to the club.

If and when things settle down before 2030, we could have a very harmonious happy club.
But I really can't see that even starting to take place with the tactics you are all being forced into atm by people that have a Very Strong Grudge against WESTS MAGPIES.

The paranoia omg.....no one is against the Magpies. Its all in your head. All the hate is towards Balmain
 
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He said rubbish result. Which is correct.

Yes, they are entitled @BZN . But is it good for our club? No. It's horrible. There's a difference between doing the right thing and being entitled to something.

So it depends what you care about to be honest. I want the best for the club, as do most here. Which is HBG at arms length while they still have the debenture holders structure in place. As the review recommended.
Another RESPECTFUL well thought out and worded post ht, well done.👍
You obviously realise that we don't need to be abusive to get our message across.
I hope a lot of the drongos on here learn from your post.
And it's interesting to read how the word drongo originated.
 
I actually agree with you. I think HBG should have control of decisions based on their 90% control.

The issue I have is there are only 20 people to choose from to control those decisions and they cannot be removed. Australia is a big place...I'd like to open up the talent pool and the fans of the club to be able to vote in the best people to run the club.

These are 2 separate issues. I agree with you on one of them. I think most do. It's the small group that hold all the power and the way it's tightly held amongst these individuals that I disagree with.
Thanks for a great reply, it's a pleasure to read posts like this 👍.
No swearing, no abuse, no unfounded allegations against the writer.
Good work wt.
 

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