HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[Craegus]

"they have played a large roll"--that's different to your original claim where you just said HBG.
So, if your assertion is correct, it means HBG are not totally responsible.
Who were the other perpetrators?
Now, take a deep breath, relax and tell the truth.
Are you ok with that?

@BZN stop trying to find things that are not there. Seriously do you just sit at home every day looking for something to try and trigger people? It is sad.

The facts are out there, and have been mentioned enough times. HBG has brought years of failure to the Wests Tigers through their poor running of the club to the point the club languished at the bottom of the table, with numerous leaks to the media being a constant, and the reputation of the Wests Tigers being completely tarnished. This was to the point that an independent review was forced by fan support and led to change.

When that happened the club began seeing a turn around in commercial and on field performance, for it to only then be blown up again by HBG after they went through a year of infighting, backstabbing, and people being out for themselves. This then crossed over to the Wests Tigers board and has since led to HBG taking back everything they had been told to step back from.

All people on here that are fighting for the Wests Tigers, unlike you with your pro Western Suburbs rhetoric are trying to give the Wests Tigers the chance to continue to be successful, and remove the part that causes constant issues and prevents the club from being an on and off field success.

There is no conspiracy, there is no pro Balmain, or anti Western Suburbs agenda, it is only Wests Tigers. If you had been there at the rally yesterday, you would have seen that. There was no people out for just Balmain, no one beating up either side, just purely people united against HBG and supporting change for the success of the Wests Tigers.

So get on board, or at least be a part of the conversation, over trying to constantly break it. Stop attacking those who actually care about the issues, and have proven it time and time again, and actually showed their care for the club yesterday (having spoken to them personally), rather than you just being a sad antagonist sitting behind your keyboard trying to get you joys from the chaos you are trying to create.

 

[hammertime]

I messaged pop who follows these matters and he was at the meeting and Denny definitely got voted for something, maybe Chair.

The debenture holders are generally wealthy people who are very popular with the members according to my grandfather, so would get elected often.

Thats good. Then the debenture holders shouldnt mind scrapping the system for members vote.

From the profiles I've seen, most would be middle, maybe slightly upper class. Not same levels as the WT independants.

 

[liltiger]

Did that actually happen? PVL threatened to put them under administration?

That's what was reported

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Being reported as over 1000.

Most reports are saying "hundreds" (SMH, Ch 9, Ch 7, News.com etc)
even Darcy Byrne is only claiming "almost 1000"

As I said previously, I personally counted every attendee and it was 317 (luckily they didn't move much)

#YourWelcome

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

It’s all of our shareholders and that includes a hopeless failure in Balmain. I think it’s important that is not forgotten in this. Obviously HBG are going to go on the defensive here.

My question is, what do they want in order to give Wests Tigers independence? Or do they just want it to die?

If it’s B, just come clean.

They don’t want to give WT’s independence. That’s the crux of the matter.

 

[liltiger]

I've heard that rumour.

The rumor is infinitely better for HBG. It's one of two things. 1st isthe rumor is true and they did what they were told by the N.R.L through the threat of force. The 2nd is that they chose to just go back to the way things were. This scenario imo is infinitely worse for HBG. They got involved grenaded the club, then just decided 10 days later to go back to how it was. In either case it's incompetence and stupidity. At least if they went back because the N.R.L threatened them they can use that as their reason, the other way, what's the reason. They just decided to grenade the club and 10 days later put everything back the way it was because they were bored. Either way they're condemned by their own incompetence.

 

[EllisFan]

They don’t want to give WT’s independence. That’s the crux of the matter.

Yeah and nobody supporting them seems to be answering my questions about what they would like to change on their side?

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

Yeah and nobody supporting them seems to be answering my questions about what they would like to change on their side?

Because they don’t even know lol it’s just blind loyalty & faith.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Mate there must have been 100 signs today that said.

Wests Tigers
Not Balmain
Not Wests

Can't get any clearer than that. And we have people talking about Balmain paraphernalia, the sign states our position beautifully.

Any idea who paid to have those identical 100 signs printed ?

And are you saying you didn't find a gaggle of blokes sporting Phillips jerseys at a WT Unite Rally - totally moronic?

 

[TheEnz]

There was a doggies one, too

Yuk

 

[liltiger]

Think you'll find this poster is referring to a suggestion the club be named "Tigers" not Wests Tigers.

Which would diminish the Magpies brand.

And it was suggested on here. You just overlooked it.

Imo Wests Tigers as in the name is all we should have from the original 2 clubs. Up to me, I'd get the Balmain Tigers emblem and Magpie off the jerseys. Were one club now.

 

[Vicious]

@Vicious I have seen you lament the clubs failings over many years often laying the boot into the clubs poor roster construction & failure to make finals. I now ask you who has overseen all of this? And under what leadership structure did all of this happen under?

The board of course have to approve who is appointed to important positions such as CEO, Coach, Marquee players etc
I don’t know how anyone can say appointing Ivan Cleary or Michael Maguire coach were bad decisions. We were looking good under Ivan Cleary until he threw us under the bus, I fail to see how that is the fault of the board ?
Maguire was also a very good choice and he too started off well, before going backwards before he departed. I personally would have given him another 12months to turn it around, but the power of the voice of the majority of our fans forced his departure, yet sone of those sane fans now claim the board doesn’t listen to them ?
Justin Pascoe also had a very good resume including working for the Panthers, who was critical of him being appointed when it first happened ?
It’s all very well to point the finger in hindsight, but there has been plenty of good decisions that have been made, but did not go to plan.

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

The board of course have to approve who is appointed to important positions such as CEO, Coach, Marquee players etc
I don’t know how anyone can say appointing Ivan Cleary or Michael Maguire coach were bad decisions. We were looking good under Ivan Cleary until he threw us under the bus, I fail to see how that is the fault of the board ?
Maguire was also a very good choice and he too started off well, before going backwards before he departed. I personally would have given him another 12months to turn it around, but the power of the voice of the majority of our fans forced his departure, yet sone of those sane fans now claim the board doesn’t listen to them ?
Justin Pascoe also had a very good resume including working for the Panthers, who was critical of him being appointed when it first happened ?
It’s all very well to point the finger in hindsight, but there has been plenty of good decisions that have been made, but did not go to plan.

Trivia question: In his autobiography which club did Ivan Cleary say he couldn’t see himself staying there long term because he felt the board weren’t united? And you must have a short memory because there was plenty of uproar amongst the fanbase when Madge was sacked.

 

[jirskyr]

Most reports are saying "hundreds" (SMH, Ch 9, Ch 7, News.com etc)
even Darcy Byrne is only claiming "almost 1000"

As I said previously, I personally counted every attendee and it was 317 (luckily they didn't move much)

#YourWelcome

Tedious

 

[liltiger]

I think the stark distinction is the board members were dismissed, whereas Richo resigned.

Other thing aswell as part of the licencing agreement management is part of the agreement in terms of required standard. Richo on the other hand was a contracted employee. So the N.R.L could request it but not much they could do to force the issue as HBG may just turn around and say it's an internal matter with a contracted salaried employee. If Richo was contracted by the Wests Tigers then the N.R.L could demand his reinstatement as well as Asic. HBG wouldn't be allowed to remove a ceo of a subsidiary without proper cause I'm assuming.

 

[liltiger]

I reckon if the whole Benny Elias thing happened (which looks like it was happening before the NRL stept in) benji would of been gone

100% remember there's no doubt he would have brought Isaac Moses with him. Not in terms of only having one player here, but stacking the team with his players.

 

[liltiger]

Paton was offered a chance to be on our podcast.

Don't like your chances. He would have to answer some real tough questions.

 

[weststigers]

"they have played a large roll"--that's different to your original claim where you just said HBG.
So, if your assertion is correct, it means HBG are not totally responsible.
Who were the other perpetrators?
Now, take a deep breath, relax and tell the truth.
Are you ok with that?

Could you articulate what HBG actually is responsible for then?

Seems like they aren't to blame for any part of the clubs failings over the past 12 years. If that's the case as you say, what do they do all day?

 

[hammertime]

Most reports are saying "hundreds" (SMH, Ch 9, Ch 7, News.com etc)
even Darcy Byrne is only claiming "almost 1000"

As I said previously, I personally counted every attendee and it was 317 (luckily they didn't move much)

#YourWelcome

Should have gone to Specsavers

 

[liltiger]

It's not a fear of losing HBG, it's a matter of HBG holding on to what is rightly theirs and not let it be stolen by someone that has done nothing positive to deserve it.

What is HBGs. Wests Tigers belongs to the N.R.L, HBG "own" the licensing agreement to run the club. They are stewards on behalf of the game through the licensing agreement. Wests Tigers is not theirs.