HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[liltiger]

Who will guard the guards? Why Australia needs to consider a sports regulator

A national sports regulator couldn’t fix every problem. Egos, ambition and conflict can’t be avoided. But it would resolve many issues and protect the long-term interests of fans.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Not a subscriber, posted it if anyone else wants to read it who can.

 

[mtd#2]

Who will guard the guards? Why Australia needs to consider a sports regulator

A national sports regulator couldn’t fix every problem. Egos, ambition and conflict can’t be avoided. But it would resolve many issues and protect the long-term interests of fans.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Not a subscriber, posted it if anyone else wants to read it who can.

https://archive.md/HSwZv

 

[crazycat]

Do they also realise that getting rid of an ex-premier can also create a lot of enemies. You never know when the liberals will be back in power and we have a lot of committed funding from govt. (More than HBG group has tipped in over last 15 years)

Yep,

Making an enemy like this.. Be it Liberal or Labor is a dumb move.
A very dumb move.

Barry could reach out to people on both sides and ask favours. I highly suspect HBG will be taken over with a new board soon.

 

[Vicious]

Burgess and Montgomery/Epifania were on the board. They knew what was going on, unless they were that incompetent they didn’t know what was happening regarding football business right in front of them.

Successful and capable people on the board were making decisions committed to Wests Tigers, and they didn’t like it. Whether it was too much orange (a key differentiator for the club in the comp), or leichhardt oval (regarded as one-off the best venues to watch rugby league), or whatever. These are tangible and intangible assets to the Wests Tigers, and these cronies stuck in the past can’t handle that neither may be a magpies legacy.

Outnumbered on the football board, they couldn’t control the strategic direction of the NRL club.

It’s been explained many times, it’s really not that hard to comprehend.
It’s now old news, no point continuing to talk about it.

 

[diedpretty]

Are either of those joint ventures?

that wasn't the point - the poster said it was necessary for success to have all teams under the one name - just ointing out a couple of successful teams that don't and one unsuccessful team that does.

 

[diedpretty]

You called me a fool...was there a question in there? What would you like me to acknowledge? What was a I wrong about?

You've missed the entire point in your rush to correct me.

I won't reply because i know you always like to get the last word in whether you are right or wrong - so go ahead and have your petty little dig and then we are done.

 

[diedpretty]

Our club required intervention by the NRL, the major financial contributor, due to boardroom issues.

And Parramatta had their board dissolved by LGA for financial fraud and salary cap cheating but that didn't effect their NRL grant

 

[Suzie-Q]

that wasn't the point - the poster said it was necessary for success to have all teams under the one name - just ointing out a couple of successful teams that don't and one unsuccessful team that does.

But it kind of is the point, because of the NRL team coming from two former NRL teams, and all the angst still evident as we head into the 27th season of the joint venture. Those two successful teams don't have all this drama going on and on for decades

 

[Fraze23]

It’s been explained many times, it’s really not that hard to comprehend.
It’s now old news, no point continuing to talk about it.

It is exceptionally hard to comprehend. Can you explain how the HBG were kept in the dark when their chairman was on the board and they had a representative on every committee?

The actions they've taken and they way they have behaved are beyond the comprehension of any logical human being.

 

[mtd#2]

It is exceptionally hard to comprehend. Can you explain how the HBG were kept in the dark when their chairman was on the board and they had a representative on every committee?

The actions they've taken and they way they have behaved are beyond the comprehension of any logical human being.

Almost 400 pages in and it's a question that nobody has answered, including @Vicious

If it was all Richo as he suggested, they would have sacked Richo. Yet they sacked the board, who were privy to the same information as the HBG directors..

Go figure huh?

 

[hank37w]

I agree.
It still doesn’t make keeping secrets or hiding things from the 90% shareholders right either.

I may have missed something but I still haven't seen anyone from HBG come out and state definitively exactly what these secrets or things that were hidden from them actually were.

Couldn't have been anything too big because HBG representatives were at the board meetings and all votes were supposedly passed unanimously with all minutes being available and this has not been challenged or disputed by HBG.

Anything major that was developing was constantly being widely reported in the media so that would have been impossible to miss unless there was complete incompetence on the part of HBG.

Apart from a video released by HBG featuring their CEO making vague unsubstantiated claims, which was very quickly taken down, there has been nothing.

Absolute clowns.

 

[Fraze23]

Hammy summed it up nicely on the win learn draw pod.

HBG = Huge Bunch of Gronks

 

[Telltails]

It is exceptionally hard to comprehend. Can you explain how the HBG were kept in the dark when their chairman was on the board and they had a representative on every committee?

The actions they've taken and they way they have behaved are beyond the comprehension of any logical human being.

The lack of communication claims were rebuked by all the independents and that they were totally blindsided - of the belief that the board was supportive of the direction the club was headed/ decisions made. The fact that they were reinstated after the meeting with PVL supports that theory - hence wrongly accused unfairly dismissed.
The fact that they are diving in again given how they were treated we can only hope they want to see WTs thrive and were given assurances the NRL are watching.

 

[hank37w]

This is where I don't understand the intervention of PVL. All he's done is make things worse.

On this one V'landys appears to have completely stuffed up and looks to have completely misunderstood what the issue actually is.

Maybe I am the one that has misunderstood what he has done here, because as others have said, it looks as though he has made things worse or has he just given HBG enough rope to hang themselves.

 

[Vicious]

It is exceptionally hard to comprehend. Can you explain how the HBG were kept in the dark when their chairman was on the board and they had a representative on every committee?

The actions they've taken and they way they have behaved are beyond the comprehension of any logical human being.

Nothing happened to p them off, they just woke up one morning and decided it was a good day to remove a few people from the board,
Is that more believable?

 

[Vicious]

Almost 400 pages in and it's a question that nobody has answered, including @Vicious

If it was all Richo as he suggested, they would have sacked Richo. Yet they sacked the board, who were privy to the same information as the HBG directors..

Go figure huh?

I’ve explained it over and over again.
If anyone doesn’t understand or doesn’t want to understand it’s now too late as it’s now old news.

 

[Fraze23]

Nothing happened to p them off, they just woke up one morning and decided it was a good day to remove a few people from the board,
Is that more believable?

You're still unable to provide an answer.

What was the reason?

 

[hank37w]

Not many, he pretty much is on his own. He actually is against the debenture system.

Yeah I remember you talking to him, a brave individual and a man that is living dangerously judging by some of the rabid lunatic denture/dementia/debenture holders that are coming out of the wood work in recent times.

 

[area52]

Who will guard the guards? Why Australia needs to consider a sports regulator

A national sports regulator couldn’t fix every problem. Egos, ambition and conflict can’t be avoided. But it would resolve many issues and protect the long-term interests of fans.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Not a subscriber, posted it if anyone else wants to read it who can.

Aleague soccer apparently poorly run too. It seems stupid not having a regulator to hold administration standards in all Australian sports

 

[Vicious]

I may have missed something but I still haven't seen anyone from HBG come out and state definitively exactly what these secrets or things that were hidden from them actually were.

Couldn't have been anything too big because HBG representatives were at the board meetings and all votes were supposedly passed unanimously with all minutes being available and this has not been challenged or disputed by HBG.

Anything major that was developing was constantly being widely reported in the media so that would have been impossible to miss unless there was complete incompetence on the part of HBG.

Apart from a video released by HBG featuring their CEO making vague unsubstantiated claims, which was very quickly taken down, there has been nothing.

Absolute clowns.

A number of hot topics decisions that have been made without them knowing about it has been reported a number of times.
It’s not even a secret, but many people still want to turn a blind eye to it.
They did not wake up one morning with no previous issues or concerns and thought it was a nice day to remove some board members,
As I’ve alluded to their actions were irrational and misguided, but there were issues and things that should not have happened that led to it.