Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Haywood is better than DaSilva
Potentially yes as he has more genuine playmaking ability, but he has not yet played higher than Flegg and while he’s played a lot of good quality games in Flegg, he has not yet dominated in the way Da Silva did quite frequently in NSW Cup.
Anyway Da Silva has made a bad decision going to the Eels where he will be stuck behind an exceptionally tough and high quality young number 9 in Ryley Smith.
 
For us Luai looked at his best at 2nd receiver. If Latu or AD can give him that space the left edge will flourish. Having a fully fit Taylan May and Samuela has the potential to be as good as and left edge in the competition. Unsure who the left winger will be but Makasini looks like a real prospect, turuva and Skelton. That is genuine star power there and fully fit will light up the NRL in 2026
 
I agree, especially Taylan will have a full pre season which is scary to think how much better he will be ,considering how well he played last year after a hand full of reserve grade games he slotted straight in and Samuela I believe will be crossing the white line plenty of times this year off the short ball , he hits the gaps beautifully and or can get a pass away to the quicker player in support.
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Haywood is better than DaSilva
He maybe potentially way better but at present he is just another kid with big raps on him who is playing lower grade. TDS on the other hand was playing off the bench in the NRL. My concern is for 2026, who gives API a 20 minute rest a game. Anyway let’s hope that Haywood absolutely kills it and the gamble pays off
 
While I respect you point of view, Luai has proven that, in the right system, he is elite. The issue we have is that we haven't created the environment for a "Luai" to perform.

If we hark back to the 05 Wests Tigers, we were playing a different brand of footy to the rest of the competion, under a coach that was anything but conventional.

We are now coming off a low base with a coach, that despite his razzle dazzle, is more about creating the environment that allows players to excel as opposed than establishing a system to make them shine.

This is both good and bad. Good in that we are not tied to conventional thinking; bad in that when we get it wrong we get it wrong badly.

Benji may be inexperienced as a FG coach, but he has already won the first battle (if we believe what the players say) in that there is belief in the system and where we are headed. As long as he has that buy in, I think we are on the right track. My assessment, and it may well be wrong, is that Benji is allowing the team to execute, within guidelines, how it sees fit. This is a brave move, because he is handing over execution based on intent.

He has tenure now, and that is a bad thing in my book, because he is less likely to be held to account. HBG shit knee jerk decision to extend him? Probably, but a subject for a different conversation and thread.

So why is it both good and bad? It is good because the players know what they are to achieve, the understand the end goal, and are given the tools to do so without being given a prescriptive method. As a player this is the ultimate freedom. The bad is, that given the the intent, there has to be an allowance for them to achieve it based on what they see on the paddock, and while they are learning that, there is an expectation that they will fail/firetruck up. This has to be accepted - it is part of the learning curve

It takes time to get it right and you have to have trust and give lattitude to allow mistakes to be made as the system is developed. You also have to be able to, as a coach, divorce yourself from the on field decisions made and provide an open learning environment for everyone involved in the post game review.

I personally believe that Benji is on the right track. He has the right mix of young and expereinced players to have a real crack at the title. Will it happen in 2026? I doubt it - we are missing some expereince in key areas. However, I would not be surprised if Benji unearths a talent no one was looking at - simply because he is a different sort of cat.

So getting back to the start - we are in a process of evolution at the club. Success is not set in stone and we could easily turn to a puddle of poo; however, we have an unconventional coach and a malleable team.

I think we had something similar in 2005. I am not suggesting that we wil win the competion in 2026; but, I do think we need to step back and reflect on the signifcant changes that guys like Luai faced in changing clubs and coaching styles.

There is no free pass for Benji in 2026, but I expect that the work done to date will set us up for success.

Big Hairy Audacious Goal - bottom of the 8 in 2026.
Love your takes mate. Logical, knowledgeable and cautiously optimistic
 
Sign Bulla and Sione
Then if we have 1 or 2 spots left hold them off until we see where we lack early on in 2026 , players will move again before that deadline of player movement closes , if we are travelling ok look from with in if it’s there , our reserve grade team needs to perform much better than last season to keep pressure on top grade and it needs to be made known to the reserves , your chance is now show us why YOU should be in the top 17
 
At the same stage Haywood definitely better & seems more versatile. I liked TDS but the drop off under fatigue is really bad. Usually hookers get fatigued & they start to miss tackles but the bread & butter for a hooker is their service out of dummy half & TDS has terrible service when fatigue set in
That was on show when TDS played a shocker for Parra with shit deliveries from dummy half many times and a cranky pants Mitchy threw a tantrum and tore him a new one in front of the whole NRL community.

Had a long chuckle at the situation but what a whiny little turd M Moses is, that stuff should be sorted at training not broadcasted on live TV.

Saying that it really hurt when he jumped ship, he would solve our problems at 7, very good half.
 
He maybe potentially way better but at present he is just another kid with big raps on him who is playing lower grade. TDS on the other hand was playing off the bench in the NRL. My concern is for 2026, who gives API a 20 minute rest a game. Anyway let’s hope that Haywood absolutely kills it and the gamble pays off
The problem with TDS was that you can’t have a 20 minute dummy half on $600k and that’s what it would have cost. We then filled that salary gap with a starting second rower who plays 80.

No doubt we would rather have TDS still with us if if other things were equal, but it’s never that simple.
 
The problem with TDS was that you can’t have a 20 minute dummy half on $600k and that’s what it would have cost. We then filled that salary gap with a starting second rower who plays 80.

No doubt we would rather have TDS still with us if if other things were equal, but it’s never that simple.
Add to this he was impatient and didn't want to wait behind Api, this cannot be dismissed.
If he stayed, I'm sure Benji would have increased his minutes as Api's legs needed more of a rest as the seasons progressed to the end of his career.

Still young and could have learnt so much off one of the best, just don't get it, time will tell if it was a bad decision to leave, I wonder if he will cop more bollockings off Mitchy boy that would be hard to put up with lol.
 
Add to this he was impatient and didn't want to wait behind Api, this cannot be dismissed.
If he stayed, I'm sure Benji would have increased his minutes as Api's legs needed more of a rest as the seasons progressed to the end of his career.

Still young and could have learnt so much off one of the best, just don't get it, time will tell if it was a bad decision to leave, I wonder if he will cop more bollockings off Mitchy boy that would be hard to put up with lol.
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That was on show when TDS played a shocker for Parra with shit deliveries from dummy half many times and a cranky pants Mitchy threw a tantrum and tore him a new one in front of the whole NRL community.

Had a long chuckle at the situation but what a whiny little turd M Moses is, that stuff should be sorted at training not broadcasted on live TV.

Saying that it really hurt when he jumped ship, he would solve our problems at 7, very good half.
I didn’t want to lose TDS either & still think he is a decent player. I really hope we can give Api as much help as we can this year
 
Add to this he was impatient and didn't want to wait behind Api, this cannot be dismissed.
If he stayed, I'm sure Benji would have increased his minutes as Api's legs needed more of a rest as the seasons progressed to the end of his career.

Still young and could have learnt so much off one of the best, just don't get it, time will tell if it was a bad decision to leave, I wonder if he will cop more bollockings off Mitchy boy that would be hard to put up with lol.
What has Api got to teach him in 2026 that he hasn't already taught him the last couple years? Or
If Api hasn't taught him yet why would he start teaching him now?
Only time will tell if he will kick on to be another big name loss or if Api will maintain his form in 27 and beyond. But I can understand why he would not want to wait beyond 26.
 
The problem with TDS was that you can’t have a 20 minute dummy half on $600k and that’s what it would have cost. We then filled that salary gap with a starting second rower who plays 80.

No doubt we would rather have TDS still with us if if other things were equal, but it’s never that simple.
He reportedly would only have been on about 300k. There was no need to release him early and would not have impacted the recruitment of a back rower.
 
What has Api got to teach him in 2026 that he hasn't already taught him the last couple years? Or
If Api hasn't taught him yet why would he start teaching him now?
Only time will tell if he will kick on to be another big name loss or if Api will maintain his form in 27 and beyond. But I can understand why he would not want to wait beyond 26.
Going off the form he showed over at Parra I'd say he's still has a lot to learn, some of his games were bloody ordinary, you trying to tell me at 21 this year he will be at the top of his game and the finished product, yeah right.

Some young blokes have to have the instruction from peers rammed down their throat for years before it sinks in and becomes automatic.
 
Going off the form he showed over at Parra I'd say he's still has a lot to learn, some of his games were bloody ordinary, you trying to tell me at 21 this year he will be at the top of his game and the finished product, yeah right.

Some young blokes have to have the instruction from peers rammed down their throat for years before it sinks in and becomes automatic.
No, I'm not telling you he is the finished product. Nor am I saying he hasn't got more to learn.
I am saying that Api may not be the mentor he needs. It is more likely he either should have already learnt from Api or isn't going to learn from Api or finally Api has taught him but he needs reps in first grade to practice what he has been taught.
So he either needs a new teacher or more game time and I just don't believe the he should wait and learn argument to be valid.
 
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