Adam Doueihi #227

[Vicious]

So you think that being a local junior gives him the authority/ right to dictate to the coach where he is prepared to play and where he is not? Just Benji or any coach?
Not in any club anywhere would this be considered acceptable.

Benji has and is creating an unacceptable culture that is not accepted at any other NRL club.

 

[Tucker]

Lock has been a problem for too long mate, time to pull the finger out and decide if they want to persist with Twal or bring in a recruit.

Schuster should be grateful for the opportunity, his career was headed for the dump, hopefully he doesn't feel entitled.

You might have noticed me being a bit pissy lately man, just had a gutful of the never ending drama that is the Wests Tigers.

Have we signed Schuster?

 

[EllisFan]

Benji has and is creating an unacceptable culture that is not accepted at any other NRL club.

The Dogs had similar experiences with their clean out

 

[Vicious]

You’re missing the point. It’s not an issue about selection. I understand that in your opinion Luai should be dropped, but I don’t agree and that’s fine, I don’t need to change your opinion. It is my opinion that any player who wants to dictate team selections to the coach should no longer be part of that team. I don’t care if it’s NRL or under 10s and if it’s the best player or worst.

That part I agree with.
But I think you will find there is a much bigger back story to all of this than what is being presented.

 

[Illek]

I’m not a professional sportsmen, but if my team mate felt he was too important to play a selected position and walked, I’d be furious. The trust in him would be gone. He betrayed the club and his team mates. He can go play at the dogs with Galvin and they can not pass to each other and be happy.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Yes he has been part of the problem, but a far less part than Luai who keeps getting selected despite him heading elsewhere as of next season.
A far less problem than the ridiculous team selections and interchange use we constantly see from Benji.

Your second bit has also been concerning, but there was only one WT half out there on the weekend that was giving it a decent go and encouraging his teammates.

One has stated publicly that he would accept playing anywhere the coach wanted, even reserve grade for the good of the team, whilst the other took his ball and went home.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Have we signed Schuster?

Hope not, he has a lot to prove before we go down that road.

 

[mtd#2]

So you think selecting a bloke who talked a big game, delivered nothing and is now leaving the club ahead of a long time loyal local junior who is the ONLY player to score or assist in scoring any points for the team over the past month is a good idea?
We will see further evidence of this on Saturday afternoon.

Benji didnt didnt pick Luai over Douhei, he picked Andrews over Douhei.

6. Luai
7. Douhei

Its been this way all year.

This week it appeared the line up was going to be:

6. Luai
7. Andrews

8. May
9. Api
10. Twal
11. Fainu
12. Roberts
13. Douhei

- 3 play makers with Douhei defending in the halves
- Sione, Bunty and Seyfarth as middle rotation off the bench to take on the big raiders forward pack... also means less minutes for May, which is what we have all been asking for.
- Andrews and Roberts are two KOE promotions and future NRL players.. havent you been calling for promotions?

The #13 role that Douhei was going to play is basically just another running #6, but with the option to run the ball more often.

Back to your focus on Luai, he has nothing to do with it.
You could rotate the jerseys, give Adam the #6 and Jarome the #13, it wouldnt matter. The difference between them is that Luai would still come out and play the game, make his runs, make his tackles. He hasn't dogged the team because he was upset about the number on the back of the jersey.

Next year one of the considerations looks to be Latu and Andrews in the halves, so moving Douhei to #13 for a few games isnt a bad idea, is it?

Matty Johns has said it twice today that he backs Benji's call to have 3 play makers - strategically, he knows what he is talking about.

 

[Carefactor]

OK .
To put all this in comparison, If Api was to say during his time at the club "I will play 9 in 2nd grade but will not play 7 in NRL"
Its a pretty simple analysis to see who does what for the team and who doesn't.

 

[69-05-41]

If we see Danny Wanker wearing his triple layer puffer jackets tomorrow twisting the knife into Benji as official mouthpiece for Uncle Isaac, that means AD has left the building and is shuffling his pack of mental health, bullying and racism cards for an early release.

 

[Bones]

That part I agree with.
But I think you will find there is a much bigger back story to all of this than what is being presented.

Well I guess that will all come out and we’ll see at that stage if it changes things, but I can’t cop what Doueihi has done. For me 2 non negotiables in any team are do as your coach says and never let your teammates down. He’s done both.

I said at the time Benji should never have been appointed (or Sheens before for that matter). I wouldn’t complain if he was moved on either, but he is the coach now and until he isn’t the players need to fall in line.

 

[Carefactor]

Benji has and is creating an unacceptable culture that is not accepted at any other NRL club.

Can you explain that culture for me.

 

[TheEnz]

OR AD wants out because he can see the writing on the wall

He wants out because he became the regular 7 and didnt get an upgrade, just got told your not the future 7 or 6 so have a crack at 13. Dont forget he signed for unders. Wouldnt surprise me if this is an issac moses ploy to get out of his contract because he has a better offer elsewhere.

 

[mtd#2]

Benji has and is creating an unacceptable culture that is not accepted at any other NRL club.

what is this unacceptable culture you speak of?

 

[Vicious]

Benji didnt didnt pick Luai over Douhei, he picked Andrews over Douhei.

6. Luai
7. Douhei

Its been this way all year.

This week it appeared the line up was going to be:

6. Luai
7. Andrews

8. May
9. Api
10. Twal
11. Fainu
12. Roberts
13. Douhei

- 3 play makers with Douhei defending in the halves
- Sione, Bunty and Seyfarth as middle rotation off the bench to take on the big raiders forward pack... also means less minutes for May, which is what we have all been asking for.
- Andrews and Roberts are two KOE promotions and future NRL players.. havent you been calling for promotions?

The #13 role that Douhei was going to play is basically just another running #6, but with the option to run the ball more often.

Back to your focus on Luai, he has nothing to do with it.
You could rotate the jerseys, give Adam the #6 and Jarome the #13, it wouldnt matter. The difference between them is that Luai would still come out and play the game, make his runs, make his tackles. He hasn't dogged the team because he was upset about the number on the back of the jersey.

Next year one of the considerations looks to be Latu and Andrews in the halves, so moving Douhei to #13 for a few games isnt a bad idea, is it?

Matty Johns has said it twice today that he backs Benji's call to have 3 play makers - strategically, he knows what he is talking about.

So based on that assumption the problem could have been solved by telling Luai he is playing 13.

 

[innsaneink]

He did change it up. By giving preferential treatment to the guy leaving.

No.....he promoted a guy to make his debut and paired him with who he thinks hes best suited with

Everyones saying AD cant tackle...his shoulders gone...now want him in the centers, its.lunacy

Regardless.of our individual opinions @Vicious ...you.do.what the coach wants
No I in team

 

[EllisFan]

He wants out because he became the regular 7 and didnt get an upgrade, just got told your not the future 7 or 6 so have a crack at 13. Dont forget he signed for unders. Wouldnt surprise me if this is an issac moses ploy to get out of his contract because he has a better offer elsewhere.

Which club would have a spot in the halves for him?

Perth maybe?

 

[innsaneink]

Yes he has been part of the problem, but a far less part than Luai who keeps getting selected despite him heading elsewhere as of next season.
A far less problem than the ridiculous team selections and interchange use we constantly see from Benji.

You are deflecting this onto Luai,
Douehi is the issue here...im stunned you refuse to see it..well I'm not really

 

[mtd#2]

So based on that assumption the problem could have been solved by telling Luai he is playing 13.

How was Benji to know that a professional athlete earning tens of thousands of dollars per game was going to go home and not play on the weekend because of the number on his back?

There wouldn't be a problem if the player listened to the coach, like players are meant to do.

Even if he felt hard done by... had a sook.. let it all out.. went home .. cooled off..

He should have been fronting up tomorrow for the captains run, turning up on Saturday and giving it his all against the Raiders, then had a chat with Benji on the bus home -- carry it into next week.

I like him, but he's dogging the team this weekend.

 

[Carefactor]

So based on that assumption the problem could have been solved by telling Luai he is playing 13.

No , he picked the most suitable player for 13