Adam Doueihi #227

[jirskyr]

So you’ve never betrayed your family ? You’ve never accidentally missed a party of your kids , forgotten someone’s birthday , had a work event conflict with your child’s sporting event , you’ve never accidentally let a secret slip ? You’ve never been soo angry because what you thought was right that you yelled at someone you love or had an argument , because you were sure you were so right , like accused an ex of cheating , maybe your wife , or actually they accused you , or you or they actually cheated ?
I find that so hard to believe it’s not funny .
Have you ever yelled at your kid and then realised they didn’t do what you thought they did ?
You know all those things are betrayals right ? It’s not your fault , you’re just learning , and growing ….. but then that would be my point wouldn’t it …

There’s either 3 things going on here . You’re trolling .. you’re a complete narcissist devoid of self reflection , or lacking emotional intelligence . I think the latter mate . My point is we all fark up . Some of us are lucky enough to fark up a little , others only learn from mistakes … so make a lot.
For those people I chose to give them grace. Only … and that’s the key word … if they own it and show remorse .

Of course you exaggerate a little but I was thinking along the same lines today.

Benji made a point that he is human, so is AD, they have feelings and are allowed to blow up then work it out.

For me really the issue isn't about coach or player decisions this past week - it is up to Benji alone how he deals with his troops.

The issue for me this week is how so much information became public and who is the POS leaking information to the media. 100% blow ups like this have occurred before in footy and clubs have kept it in-house. All this should have been kept in-house, esp if AD was venting reasonable frustrations and Benji accepted it.

 

[Tired Tiger]

I feel like alot of people are making excuses for AD, it's excuse that has our season in the shit can.....

 

[Lestronge]

Of course you exaggerate a little but I was thinking along the same lines today.

Benji made a point that he is human, so is AD, they have feelings and are allowed to blow up then work it out.

For me really the issue isn't about coach or player decisions this past week - it is up to Benji alone how he deals with his troops.

The issue for me this week is how so much information became public and who is the POS leaking information to the media. 100% blow ups like this have occurred before in footy and clubs have kept it in-house.

Yea man … I’m not emotional about this at all . It’s written text so it’s hard to convey tone . You’re right I’m using extremism to make a point .
I just think man all the screw ups in my life , if people don’t get to make up for thier mistakes … well I’m screwed lol .
But like just because I say this … it doesn’t give what he did a pass. Far from it . He’s gotta earn that . And if it’s all crocodile tears and bullshit well then , yea there’s the door . But give him a chance to make up for it . Work hard , get some wins on the board and if there is a leadership vacuum , do what’s necessary to fix it .
Your last point. Same ! My very first post I said the same thing . AD needs to sort out who it is that’s leaking around him . And if it’s him …. Jesus Christ bro … back to my original point . You need to see a therapist . Because going scorched earth because a perceived slight is not normal at all . Getting angry . Sure . But burning it all down … I mean the hot blooded Lebo stuff is a cop out . Sort your shit out .

 

[Illek]

So you’ve never betrayed your family ? You’ve never accidentally missed a party of your kids , forgotten someone’s birthday , had a work event conflict with your child’s sporting event , you’ve never accidentally let a secret slip ? You’ve never been soo angry because what you thought was right that you yelled at someone you love or had an argument , because you were sure you were so right , like accused an ex of cheating , maybe your wife , or actually they accused you , or you or they actually cheated ?
I find that so hard to believe it’s not funny .
Have you ever yelled at your kid and then realised they didn’t do what you thought they did ?
You know all those things are betrayals right ? It’s not your fault , you’re just learning , and growing ….. but then that would be my point wouldn’t it …

There’s either 3 things going on here . You’re trolling .. you’re a complete narcissist devoid of self reflection , or lacking emotional intelligence . I think the latter mate . My point is we all fark up . Some of us are lucky enough to fark up a little , others only learn from mistakes … so make a lot.
For those people I chose to give them grace. Only … and that’s the key word … if they own it and show remorse .

No … that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever read and clearly you’re very young .
Real men ? The realest men I’ve ever met , loyal , hard working , all about the team , have nearly to a man done some crazy shit and almost torpedoed thier life .
No … every man worth thier salt is gonna make a mistake they regret . Most many many mistakes . A real man … if there is such a thing , owns those mistakes and uses them to be a better human .
You’re in for a punch to the guts when this truth hits home to you mate . Because it will mean you’ve stuffed up royally and need some forgiveness .
And if not … well then you’d be the first person in history to never make

I can honestly say I’ve never betrayed my family. I make every birthday, sporting event, school event because there is nothing I care about more.

Same with yelling at my wife. I’m an adult, I can talk to her with respect and her to me even if disagreeing. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t give you the right to lash out. Just like I’m choosing to not insult or belittle you, yet you keep taking swipes at me. You treat people with respect.

Yeah you can [This word has been automatically removed] up. That’s fine, but there are consequences. You can’t say I’m sorry and expect it all to be fine. You need to earn that trust back through time, effort and demonstrating you change. I’ll believe it when I see it.

 

[bbobb]

I am hoping to find a silver lining in this in that last week was where we hit rock bottom. In some ways this was worse than the HBG and Galvin debacle as it was the coach with a committed leader who has been arguably our best player this year.

But what interested me was the response.

They manned up and took their shots from the media and both the club and themselves are looking a lot better than they did yesterday. Yes there will still be questions however I at least feel we are in the right headspace to have a solid performance against Parramatta.

 

[Yossarian]

I think he genuinely is remorseful for his actions. I also think he does have a close affection for the club. It doesn’t excuse his actions but I suspect he genuinely acknowledges he was in the wrong. I was very angry at what he did and the flow on impact of his selfishness. Can I get over it? Maybe. A winning effort on Sunday would go some ways to healing things…

 

[Tired Tiger]

I am hoping to find a silver lining in this in that last week was where we hit rock bottom. In some ways this was worse than the HBG and Galvin debacle as it was the coach with a committed leader who has been arguably our best player this year.

But what interested me was the response.

They manned up and took their shots from the media and both the club and themselves are looking a lot better than they did yesterday. Yes there will still be questions however I at least feel we are in the right headspace to have a solid performance against Parramatta.

Excellent, primed for a good performance literally the week after our season officially ended ....

 

[Lestronge]

I can honestly say I’ve never betrayed my family. I make every birthday, sporting event, school event because there is nothing I care about more.

Same with yelling at my wife. I’m an adult, I can talk to her with respect and her to me even if disagreeing. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t give you the right to lash out.

Yeah you can [This word has been automatically removed] up. That’s fine, but there are consequences. You can’t say I’m sorry and expect it all to be fine. You need to earn that trust back through time, effort and demonstrating you change. I’ll believe it when I see it.

I straight up don’t believe you . Not even a little bit . But that’s irrelevant . Everything you’re saying is exactly what I was saying though .
But only through contrition and an apology - because that means you accept you made a mistake . It literally the first part . Why would you need to make up for a mistake you never made ?
You’re literally talking in circles to win some arbitrary argument against a random .
Cool you hate AD . He’s a ... Thats it . Whatever bro ! Good luck to you!

 

[jirskyr]

Yea man … I’m not emotional about this at all . It’s written text so it’s hard to convey tone . You’re right I’m using extremism to make a point .
I just think man all the screw ups in my life , if people don’t get to make up for thier mistakes … well I’m screwed lol .
But like just because I say this … it doesn’t give what he did a pass. Far from it . He’s gotta earn that . And if it’s all crocodile tears and bullshit well then , yea there’s the door . But give him a chance to make up for it . Work hard , get some wins on the board and if there is a leadership vacuum , do what’s necessary to fix it .
Your last point. Same ! My very first post I said the same thing . AD needs to sort out who it is that’s leaking around him . And if it’s him …. Jesus Christ bro … back to my original point . You need to see a therapist . Because going scorched earth because a perceived slight is not normal at all . Getting angry . Sure . But burning it all down … I mean the hot blooded Lebo stuff is a cop out . Sort your shit out .

I still suspect Moses, but given the Tigers history, it could be people in the club itself. Would not shock me if it's some dimwit from within HBG.

But I still go back to what Pascoe said to me years ago - if it's negative club press, 99% chance its from the manager and you have to think about who benefits from the intrigue.

It is fair to note that for AD's most recent contract there wasn't the typical Moses bullshit, so the manager can take instructions from the player.

 

[jirskyr]

I can honestly say I’ve never betrayed my family. I make every birthday, sporting event, school event because there is nothing I care about more.

Same with yelling at my wife. I’m an adult, I can talk to her with respect and her to me even if disagreeing. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t give you the right to lash out. Just like I’m choosing to not insult or belittle you, yet you keep taking swipes at me. You treat people with respect.

Yeah you can [This word has been automatically removed] up. That’s fine, but there are consequences. You can’t say I’m sorry and expect it all to be fine. You need to earn that trust back through time, effort and demonstrating you change. I’ll believe it when I see it.

I've got a long fuse, but geez I cannot say I've never yelled at my wife at least for a moment.

Being a robot doesn't help anyone either.

 

[mtd#2]

I feel like alot of people are making excuses for AD, it's excuse that has our season in the shit can.....

I feel like alot of people are channelling their frustrations with the club (this year and all those prior) into the situation with AD.

He let us all down against Canberra, but it isn't his fault we have failed miserably again this year. If anything, I think he cares sooooo much, and thats why he was irrational and emotional. It got the better of him.

 

[mtd#2]

I've got a long fuse, but geez I cannot say I've never yelled at my wife at least for a moment.

Being a robot doesn't help anyone either.

My wife is never wrong 😂😂

 

[innsaneink]

Im eating eggs on toast for a month if i yell at mine

 

[Telltails]

AD has made his bed now he has to lie in it. He hasn't got away with anything - if anything he has put a huge target in his back.
The players and coach have a relationship with him unlike fans who see him more like a commodity - useful until he isn't.
If Benji/players choose to move on and get on with it then it is the most mature action and shows that they value him.
They cant control what people from the outside looking in will make of it.

 

[Lestronge]

I still suspect Moses, but given the Tigers history, it could be people in the club itself. Would not shock me if it's some dimwit from within HBG.

But I still go back to what Pascoe said to me years ago - if it's negative club press, 99% chance its from the manager and you have to think about who benefits from the intrigue.

It is fair to note that for AD's most recent contract there wasn't the typical Moses bullshit, so the manager can take instructions from the player.

I agree Isaac is a shit stain on the nrl . Unfortunately whilst Benji is here , especially whilst Benji lacks the runs in wins and losses , will this stuff continue . I don’t think any other new coach has had to battle a manager undermining him at every turn , as ell as the usual club bullshit . And HBG … the sooner we are rid of them the better.
I genuinely wish they’d sell to the fans like the greenbay packers.

 

[Tired Tiger]

I feel like alot of people are channelling their frustrations with the club (this year and all those prior) into the situation with AD.

He let us all down against Canberra, but it isn't his fault we have failed miserably again this year. If anything, I think he cares sooooo much, and thats why he was irrational and emotional. It got the better of him.

Not at all, I think for all the talk of standards at the club there is none.

The culture is clearly rotten otherwise we don't loose 9 of our last 11 in the manor we lost them.

After Benji and ADs version of hear no evil, see no evil speak no evil everyone is rushing to pat them on the back.

The reality is they both have extensive media training which has proven to be wildly successful in pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

No one saying burn AD at the stake but proportionate consequences were appropriate such as coming back through cup.

The excuse of the importance of winning this week is also garbage....

It was important to win against the dragons, warriors, Bulldogs and raiders when our season was actually still alive ....

But hey AD is sorry.....

 

[Lestronge]

Im eating eggs on toast for a month if i yell at mine

I’ve learnt that pick your battles .. which means walk away 99.9% of the time .

 

[mtd#2]

Not at all, I think for all the talk of standards at the club there is none.

The culture is clearly rotten otherwise we don't loose 9 of our last 11 in the manor we lost them.

After Benji and ADs version of hear no evil, see no evil speak no evil everyone is rushing to pay them on the back.

The reality is they both have extensive media training which has proven to be wildly successful in pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

No one saying burn AD at the stake but proportionate consequences were appropriate such as coming back through cup.

The excuse of the importance of winning this week is also garbage....

It was important to win against the dragons, warriors, Bulldogs and raiders when our season was actually still alive ....

But hey AD is sorry.....

Why can his team mates and coach forgive him, but you cannot? There is clearly more to it what we are not aware of.

 

[Lestronge]

My wife is never wrong 😂😂

blink twice to say you’re ok haha

 

[Tired Tiger]

Why can his team mates and coach forgive him, but you cannot? There is clearly more to it what we are not aware of.

It's not about forgiveness, take the emotion out of it...

It's about standards and culture along with accountability...

Words are none of those things and the reality of life is their are consequences for the actions we take.

Letting him off Scott free sends a poor message.

There is no way the team has forgiven him, some player maybe but mostly it's been a show for the camera.

You reckon Terrell is happy with the leaked vaping crap ... Our performances indicate there are massive issues within the playing group....