Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[king_sirro]

John Hopoate has a post up on Facebook insinuating the alleged rape by the 3 x St Gregs boys involves Wests Tigers pathways/Western Suburbs Magpies aligned players. He has named Wests and has the Wests Tigers logo on his post. Although the post seems more about racism and nepotism and that these boys are being protected.

Easily one of the lowest humans to have had an NRL career

 

[weststigerman]

It’s a bit of an irrelevant conversation as I think it’s pretty clear Averillo has been recruited by Wests Tigers to fill the void at right centre.
But have you seen Averillo play fullback?
I vividly remember Bula playing the first half and part of the 2nd half for the PM’s X111 v PNG a few years back and the game was dull and boring with the PM’s X111 not leading by many. They then replaced Bula with Averillo at fullback and his extra energy and speed off the mark made an instant impact resulting in a much more fluent style of play from the PM’s X111 once Averillo was on the field and playing fullback.

I’ve seen him there and he’s still slightly behind Bula.

Given the club haven’t got his surgery done early enough. Bula will likely miss the start of the season so Averillo may be forced to play there.

 

[Flippedy]

He definitely is a fullback. Will be a good upgrade on Treacy for them

I dunno about that, I think Brimson is massively overrated. He has his good games, but more often he’s just average, imo.

 

[Leck]

Easily one of the lowest humans to have had an NRL career

I love this fight, which ended his ring career -

 

[king_sirro]

I dunno about that, I think Brimson is massively overrated. He has his good games, but more often he’s just average, imo.

That could be because he is never playing his natural position. Im not saying he is great, but he is a good high energy fullback and can cause some damage

 

[TheEnz]

We ignore good ball runners such as Samuela Fainu because we don’t have a left sided halve of fullback with the class to really bring them into play on a regular basis.
That along with too many sluggish players such as Terrell who take half an hour to play the ball and don’t allow us to play on the front foot.
I know almost everyone with laugh at this comment based on status in the game and NRL experience, but Javon Andrews is way ahead of Luai in terms of deception with ball in hand, ability to square up the defence, bring his ball runners onto the ball and put them through gaps.

Agree with you re Javon, he is much more deceptive with ball in hand and he can also slow down and speed up more than Luai can. Luai is a bit more of a jack in the box type player, he can disrupt a defensive line with his running style, if you watch the games at Penrith he would often do this and then Kikau would run a line or he would pass it back to Cleary who would then take advantage. Cleary would throw it out to Luai if they were struggling to break down the defense. Our team is not set up to use Luai in this way, we needed him to be dominant and not just the go to for some chaos in an otherwise structured attack.

 

[king_sirro]

We ignore good ball runners such as Samuela Fainu because we don’t have a left sided halve of fullback with the class to really bring them into play on a regular basis.
That along with too many sluggish players such as Terrell who take half an hour to play the ball and don’t allow us to play on the front foot.
I know almost everyone with laugh at this comment based on status in the game and NRL experience, but Javon Andrews is way ahead of Luai in terms of deception with ball in hand, ability to square up the defence, bring his ball runners onto the ball and put them through gaps.

You can see the players that naturally create space. Luai is not one of them. Javon is.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

John Hopoate has a post up on Facebook insinuating the alleged rape by the 3 x St Gregs boys involves Wests Tigers pathways/Western Suburbs Magpies aligned players. He has named Wests and has the Wests Tigers logo on his post. Although the post seems more about racism and nepotism and that these boys are being protected.

Feel for the victim who is a woman.

 

[achilles]

You can see the players that naturally create space. Luai is not one of them. Javon is.

Yep but limited footage I've seen of javon he cant tackle

 

[king_sirro]

Yep but limited footage I've seen of javon he cant tackle

He looks a little short of average for his age defensively. Definitely something he needs to work hard on. With his bigger frame im sure he will get to being a competent defensive half. Thats if we get some decent coaches in

 

[twentyforty]

Feel for the victim who is a woman.

I think it’s illegal to disclose the name of a victim in a sexual misconduct allegation or charge.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think it’s illegal to disclose the name of a victim in a sexual misconduct allegation or charge.

There is a Daily Mail article on the issue.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

John Hopoate has a post up on Facebook insinuating the alleged rape by the 3 x St Gregs boys involves Wests Tigers pathways/Western Suburbs Magpies aligned players. He has named Wests and has the Wests Tigers logo on his post. Although the post seems more about racism and nepotism and that these boys are being protected.

Has a set out for the club ever since Richo was here. What was that about again? Didn't invite him to a function or asked him to leave one or something?

 

[batboy]

I dunno about that, I think Brimson is massively overrated. He has his good games, but more often he’s just average, imo.

Hasn’t ever really played in a good side…
Pretty sure he was man of the match in an origin going back - if he wasn’t, he should have been…

He looks a little short of average for his age defensively. Definitely something he needs to work hard on. With his bigger frame im sure he will get to being a competent defensive half. Thats if we get some decent coaches in

was gonna say, if he’s going to learn to tackle - it won’t be here at Wests Tigers. Although Brooks got there in the end

 

[twentyforty]

Has a set out for the club ever since Richo was here. What was that about again? Didn't invite him to a function or asked him to leave one or something?

At least Terry Lamb thought it was funny, but the club sacked him over the finger poking some years ago well before Richo arrived.
Just another example of our poor culture.

 

[Leck]

I get the niggling and taunting. It was clear at times during the World Cup, with players covering their mouths when they spoke, and it will be enforced in all football matches going forward.

I guarantee our game will become homogenised too.

 

[Flippedy]

That could be because he is never playing his natural position. Im not saying he is great, but he is a good high energy fullback and can cause some damage

Also playing in a crap team doesn’t help, as we would know well.

 

[Nasser]

Brimson is good but I am shocked anyone is throwing up signing any backs at the moment with our sub-average forward pack. I already believe we would have more money tied up in backs than most clubs (Bula, Turuva, Averillo, May, Makasini) are on all decent sized contracts. Then when you throw in we have Junior Tupou, Tavana and maybe Herbert, I think our outside backs stocks are okay. I can't see how we can entertain any more backs until we have 2-3 forwards.

The difference between Turuva being out and say Tavana being in is not that massive (in some weeks it may even be better), but the difference between say KPP being out, and bringing in guys like Sukkar (or Sione Fainu in the 2RF) is ginormous....or even worse, just playing our whole forwards for huge mins cause Benji doesn't obviously rate any of the back up options.

 

[king_sirro]

Brimson is good but I am shocked anyone is throwing up signing any backs at the moment with our sub-average forward pack. I already believe we would have more money tied up in backs than most clubs (Bula, Turuva, Averillo, May, Makasini) are on all decent sized contracts. Then when you throw in we have Junior Tupou, Tavana and maybe Herbert, I think our outside backs stocks are okay. I can't see how we can entertain any more backs until we have 2-3 forwards.

The difference between Turuva being out and say Tavana being in is not that massive (in some weeks it may even be better), but the difference between say KPP being out, and bringing in guys like Sukkar (or Sione Fainu in the 2RF) is ginormous....or even worse, just playing our whole forwards for huge mins cause Benji doesn't obviously rate any of the back up options.

The thing is, our forward pack at full strength this year dominated teams. I would definitely like to add one quality forward if possible, and I dont really care what position. Lock, front row or edge, doesnt matter. However, with the right mindset, our boys showed they have it in them. Its all about maintaining that rage.
That being said, I would go big for Hudson Young and seriously think about playing him lock. His leg sppeed through the middle, ball playing and toughness would be a revelation IMO. That being said, happy to move Sam or KPP to the middle for him to stay on an edge too. Ideally Sam would move to the middle.

Unfortunately I think the chance of us getting a Young, Preston, Leota or Martin are slim to none.

Bunty has shown some signs and I thought he was very good last week. We need more out of him, and obviously we need to change how Terrell approaches his footy. We need a coach that is going to insist on Terrell just running as hard as he can for shorter stints.

 

[clontarfkid]

I dunno about that, I think Brimson is massively overrated. He has his good games, but more often he’s just average, imo.

Think hes an out and out fullback...but never gets to play there
Hes on $950,so the only suitors will be Perth and PNG..and he will have to take a haircut
Its so long since weve seen a fully fit Bula nor a Brimson playing in position..so hard to judge.
But if Brimson was allowed to negotaiate 2 months ago or so we mite not have paid Bula $900k plus