Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

happy_tiger said:
If I was to rate our 1 to 7 v Newcastle's 1 to 7 head to head at most we might win 2 ....maybe even only 1 match up

We have a better hooker , one better prop and the back row is probably even

So from 13 spots we win maybe 4 head to head

If you not only believe the bookies , but then match us up head to head against all the current squad's in 2026 we are bottom 4

I'm not making this shit up .....Bulas not Top 10 , our wingers are bottom 4 , Taylan May is Top half , Toa, Makasini are bottom 8 centres of the 34 across the board , Luai was bottom 6 and that's being extremely nice , Doueihi based on all form is bottom half of all 7s , Twal is around the middle , KPP and Samuela is Top half of the 34 second rowers in the comp ,Api is Top 6 as far as hookers go , Fonua Pole probably around the middle and Terrell May in the top half
Not great reading

And so far this off season we have Averillo and Brailey coming on board

How do you rate them , Brailey I don't think played NRL and Averillo played maybe 5 games at most

I want to be positive Ink .....I really do ....but when you look at the facts and break it down man on man ....it ain't pretty

Then let's start on the coaching staff ....where does Benji rate as a head coach ....up head to head against the other 16 coaches ......bottom 4

Assistant coaches .... this is very arguable I know , but our best assistant left in my opinion We are definitely bottom 4

Our leagues club , HBG , our juniors and their development

I basically stopped posting on here because I hated being so negative , but the cons outweigh the pros so significantly you just can't ignore it if you are going to be fair and honest with yourself
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Im not teying to convince you against anything weve both said...as i said reality...as you mentioned...usually hits us around July.
I look at the roosters.game...knights and wahs early...if we can replicate that a bit more, thats my hope..sports a funny beast and rougies get up sometimes
 
Leck said:
I hope our juniors can be nurtured and fast tracked because the pickings are slim now. It will only become more difficult to attract talent with PVL’s stubborn direction towards a 20 team comp.
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I like and agree with that sentiment but unless more resources are poured into pathways, recruitment, identification, development and recruitment officers, we'll be a shadow of what we could be as a club with a huge junior district.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
People wanna sign the (ex?) jailbird Fainu. We aim pretty low sometimes.
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Just because it will all but guarrant
Leck said:
Jock was top 10 in kicking meters, ahead of Adam Reynolds, Sandon Smith and Nicho Hynes.


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that is the most misleading stat I’ve ever seen . He consistently struggles to land the ball in the box with height , from basically anywhere , and people will look at that stat and say our eyes are deceiving us . I will say this though . If he can get more elevation , which leads to the defensive line getting down field to apply pressure , and slightly more distance , than he should be leading the way . As it is though , if a fullback is catching the ball in the box , and the defensive line is still only on the 20/30m then that’s not good enough.
TLDR; it’s not just distance it’s hang time and distance . Instead of looking where the ball is caught , look at where the defensive line is when the back 3 are catching it . Ideally , they’re right there waiting for the attacker to come down with the ball . Like I said too often we are still in our 20 or 30m line giving the opp a huge field position advantage every single set .
 
wstigers11 said:
Setting up to be successful like the Dolphins
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Certainly not counting board numbers to ascertain whether they are on the right side of power or looking over their shoulder if they are not. Amazing how when you have a group of people pulling in the same direction how the size of an emblem becomes the least of your concerns and you get s'@#t done.
 
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Lestronge said:
Just because it will all but guarrant

that is the most misleading stat I’ve ever seen . He consistently struggles to land the ball in the box with height , from basically anywhere , and people will look at that stat and say our eyes are deceiving us . I will say this though . If he can get more elevation , which leads to the defensive line getting down field to apply pressure , and slightly more distance , than he should be leading the way . As it is though , if a fullback is catching the ball in the box , and the defensive line is still only on the 20/30m then that’s not good enough.
TLDR; it’s not just distance it’s hang time and distance . Instead of looking where the ball is caught , look at where the defensive line is when the back 3 are catching it . Ideally , they’re right there waiting for the attacker to come down with the ball . Like I said too often we are still in our 20 or 30m line giving the opp a huge field position advantage every single set .
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So who's our best kicking half ?
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
I like and agree with that sentiment but unless more resources are poured into pathways, recruitment, identification, development and recruitment officers, we'll be a shadow of what we could be as a club with a huge junior district.
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That's why I think the NRL'S 20 club must be in a strong new junior nursery area to give young players the opportunity to make first grade
 
happy_tiger said:
I can take some positives from 2026 and beyond , the major steps forward by the NRLW side

But even then we found a way to stuff that up

We meaning the fans , how many Forum members live within a hour and a half of Campbelltown Stadium and didn't show up to the semi final v Canberra

15 years , no finals in senior rugby league and when they finally crack the semis, a paltry 2500 show up
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I attended. It was nearly 3k & we had a bigger crowd at our Final than the Broncos girls got at theirs. Putting that game at Campbelltown cost them people going. I have no doubt about it.
 
happy_tiger said:
If I was to rate our 1 to 7 v Newcastle's 1 to 7 head to head at most we might win 2 ....maybe even only 1 match up

We have a better hooker , one better prop and the back row is probably even

So from 13 spots we win maybe 4 head to head

If you not only believe the bookies , but then match us up head to head against all the current squad's in 2026 we are bottom 4

I'm not making this shit up .....Bulas not Top 10 , our wingers are bottom 4 , Taylan May is Top half , Toa, Makasini are bottom 8 centres of the 34 across the board , Luai was bottom 6 and that's being extremely nice , Doueihi based on all form is bottom half of all 7s , Twal is around the middle , KPP and Samuela is Top half of the 34 second rowers in the comp ,Api is Top 6 as far as hookers go , Fonua Pole probably around the middle and Terrell May in the top half
Not great reading

And so far this off season we have Averillo and Brailey coming on board

How do you rate them , Brailey I don't think played NRL and Averillo played maybe 5 games at most

I want to be positive Ink .....I really do ....but when you look at the facts and break it down man on man ....it ain't pretty

Then let's start on the coaching staff ....where does Benji rate as a head coach ....up head to head against the other 16 coaches ......bottom 4

Assistant coaches .... this is very arguable I know , but our best assistant left in my opinion We are definitely bottom 4

Our leagues club , HBG , our juniors and their development

I basically stopped posting on here because I hated being so negative , but the cons outweigh the pros so significantly you just can't ignore it if you are going to be fair and honest with yourself
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I dont disagree with anything you have said.

All I will say is that if you were told at the start of the year Newcastle's backrow was McEwen and Manuleulua you would have rated that the worst in the comp.

You just dont know what a season will produce.
 
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mtd#2 said:
Absolutely no chance. No one is considering their nsw cup side has to train in Sydney. The 5 hr flights. The lack of depth. They will set the record for the most points conceded in a season..
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I didn’t even know they are making their cup side train in Sydney that’s insane. Their team just sucks as well like I reckon our 2022 side would’ve beaten them
 
Leck said:
He had a decent percentage considering that our halves get barrelled through the middle, and our defense across the board fell apart after round 9.

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Leck I don't think your use of stats in the case of Madden do not paint a clear picture of his ability. Firstly his the rating of 10th for kicking meters is incorrect as this stat according to your graph was for kicks per game. He had 180 kicks over 18 games which represents 10 per game, not how effective they were.
His defence of 295 takles made, would only represent about 15 per game (this only relates to takles he was involved in, not one on one tackles). Jock's problem is his decision making within the defencive structure, often he is in no-mans land and doen't get involved so these are not counted as missed takles.
 
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