PNG Chiefs discussion

Dr_Ice said:
The Junior Kumals defeated Australian Schoolboys today. Not sure of the age of the PNG side, but our schoolboy side was full of players signed up with NRL clubs.

Once the PNG juniors have the ability to train in NRL quality junior pathways, the Chiefs will hopefully have a good proportion of local players in a few years
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Nobody knows the age of the PNG side!
 
I think this will end in tears , the only reason they got a start , was Lying ALBO gave them a heap of cash and the NRL folded about letting them in .
Would love to know if Albo is giving them $600 million every year ,
For PNG getting a leg up for 10 years the other clubs will soon realise there are get f***** over
 
bptiger 0 said:
I think this will end in tears , the only reason they got a start , was Lying ALBO gave them a heap of cash and the NRL folded about letting them in .
Would love to know if Albo is giving them $600 million every year ,
For PNG getting a leg up for 10 years the other clubs will soon realise there are get f***** over
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600 million over 10 years

The honey moon will die off quickly then reality will set in. I think once To’o, Luai’s etc contract ends their days will be numbered

We should be propping up Perth Bears, an actual domestic city with a booming growth… I think everyone will be quietly hoping they succeed.
 
bptiger 0 said:
I think this will end in tears , the only reason they got a start , was Lying ALBO gave them a heap of cash and the NRL folded about letting them in .
Would love to know if Albo is giving them $600 million every year ,
For PNG getting a leg up for 10 years the other clubs will soon realise there are get f***** over
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I think the other clubs relise this already
 
bptiger 0 said:
I think this will end in tears , the only reason they got a start , was Lying ALBO gave them a heap of cash and the NRL folded about letting them in .
Would love to know if Albo is giving them $600 million every year ,
For PNG getting a leg up for 10 years the other clubs will soon realise there are get f***** over
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The other clubs knew it before PNG even got off the ground. They all would have known as soon as they knew that tax breaks were on offer. I can't believe that has been granted for 10 years. A couple of seasons maybe to attract a couple of high profile names and get a bit of immediate success but a decade is far too lopsided.

Not to mention the players get to skip out on paying tax on salaries in the mid-high six and seven figures while everyone paying to watch them still has to give Albo his cut.
 
And we can argue about the Bears having a year or so head start on PNG but it's the same playing field when the Bears still have to compete with the same taxation system as every other club in the NRL.
 
bptiger 0 said:
I think this will end in tears , the only reason they got a start , was Lying ALBO gave them a heap of cash and the NRL folded about letting them in .
Would love to know if Albo is giving them $600 million every year ,
For PNG getting a leg up for 10 years the other clubs will soon realise there are get f***** over
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The other clubs ratified the deal when they accepted the $4M payout as part of the expansion agreement. Plus the expansion itself featured strongly in the new TV deal which boosted total revenues and increased the per-club annual grant.

Additionally every club can sign 2 PNG pathway juniors salary cap exempt.

The NRL didn't fold, they negotiated the contribution from the Govt. And $60M per year is a fraction of our total Pacific support budget ($2.2B per year), so it ends up being a pretty good deal. Anyone paying attention will have seen that PNG then signed a Defence Treaty with Australia AFTER the Chiefs deal - PNG have never signed a formal alliance before.

But politics aside, I don't think the NRL has much of an option - nobody wants to live in Port Moresby unless there is serious financial incentive. And being considerate of the real world: PNG are the only NRL team with serious security concerns

As we've already seen, PNG's leg-up raids Union as much as any one League club, because all the Union-League mercenaries love their tax-free incomes: already 2 of the first 7 players are Union converts back to League (Lomax and Joey Manu). And serious talk right now of the Pritchard brothers making the code switch. A third of the 7 Chiefs players is from Super League and the other 3 are basically within a few years of retirement.

Ideally NRL would want the Chiefs to establish and then increasingly put local juniors into the side.

I don't mind it overall - if managed properly there could be a windfall for all clubs, if the Chiefs cement themselves and the code can invest in upskilling the best young players in PNG.

Right now rugby league development is a money and competition problem: in Australia development and competition is very good, money is good, and the Australian competition props up most of the Pacific nations. League in NZ is increasingly a realistic and desirable path: salaries on par or better than Union, especially for juniors and mid-tier players, plus 20 there will be 20 clubs hiring within a few years (and my guess: the 20th side will be a new Kiwi team).

By contrast, funding and quality in England is poor, even with a still advantageous exchange rate for the pound - the salary cap is AUD 4M in England compared to 12M here. The average salary in England is about AUD 160K vs AUD 400K here. Super League clubs spend AUD 8-12M per year on total operations (including salaries) whereas NRL clubs spend AUD 25-35M.

And you can see the results in the quality of the clubs and the international teams - England is falling down the peg, even the Pacific Nations are probably on par now with the eligibility rule changes.

So if you can get that NRL money flowing to PNG, like it has done for the Wahs, for Tonga / Samoa / Fiji... the whole game probably benefits.
 
jirskyr said:
The other clubs ratified the deal when they accepted the $4M payout as part of the expansion agreement. Plus the expansion itself featured strongly in the new TV deal which boosted total revenues and increased the per-club annual grant.

Additionally every club can sign 2 PNG pathway juniors salary cap exempt.

The NRL didn't fold, they negotiated the contribution from the Govt. And $60M per year is a fraction of our total Pacific support budget ($2.2B per year), so it ends up being a pretty good deal. Anyone paying attention will have seen that PNG then signed a Defence Treaty with Australia AFTER the Chiefs deal - PNG have never signed a formal alliance before.

But politics aside, I don't think the NRL has much of an option - nobody wants to live in Port Moresby unless there is serious financial incentive. And being considerate of the real world: PNG are the only NRL team with serious security concerns

As we've already seen, PNG's leg-up raids Union as much as any one League club, because all the Union-League mercenaries love their tax-free incomes: already 2 of the first 7 players are Union converts back to League (Lomax and Joey Manu). And serious talk right now of the Pritchard brothers making the code switch. A third of the 7 Chiefs players is from Super League and the other 3 are basically within a few years of retirement.

Ideally NRL would want the Chiefs to establish and then increasingly put local juniors into the side.

I don't mind it overall - if managed properly there could be a windfall for all clubs, if the Chiefs cement themselves and the code can invest in upskilling the best young players in PNG.

Right now rugby league development is a money and competition problem: in Australia development and competition is very good, money is good, and the Australian competition props up most of the Pacific nations. League in NZ is increasingly a realistic and desirable path: salaries on par or better than Union, especially for juniors and mid-tier players, plus 20 there will be 20 clubs hiring within a few years (and my guess: the 20th side will be a new Kiwi team).

By contrast, funding and quality in England is poor, even with a still advantageous exchange rate for the pound - the salary cap is AUD 4M in England compared to 12M here. The average salary in England is about AUD 160K vs AUD 400K here. Super League clubs spend AUD 8-12M per year on total operations (including salaries) whereas NRL clubs spend AUD 25-35M.

And you can see the results in the quality of the clubs and the international teams - England is falling down the peg, even the Pacific Nations are probably on par now with the eligibility rule changes.

So if you can get that NRL money flowing to PNG, like it has done for the Wahs, for Tonga / Samoa / Fiji... the whole game probably benefits.
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Our u ALBO’S brother , seems like the same speel that he comes up with lol 🤔🥴
 
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