Tigers Deep Dive of the Week

Is there interest in doing a weekly "Deep Dive" to promote focussed discussion between games?

  • Yes, I would be happy develop a topic or two to get the ball rolling

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Yes, I would be happy to participate but not lead a topic

    Votes: 7 33.3%

  • I am not likely to contribute; however, I would be interested in learning from the discussion

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • Would prefer to watch paint dry

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .
Just made some notes showcasing the injury impact on our Best 17 this season.

Bula - Missed 4 rounds. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Turuva - No injury. Just moved around from right wing to cover fullback & centre, lack of conntinuity.
To'a - Hampered by his elbow/tricep injury from last year, also restricted pre-season with stress reaction in foot impacting his fitness levels.
Taylan May - Missed 4 rounds early in the season & past 2 rounds with shoulder. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Makasini - 18yo who has been targeted heavily by opposition & media - mental fatigue. Stress reaction in foot to miss 5 rounds. Playing with AC/shoulder injury.
Luai - Missed 3 rounds with MCL. Knee did restrict him for at least month after he returned. Question marks on mental impact of PNG signing after Round 8.
Doueihi - Missed 5 rounds with shoulder. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Twal - Missed 1 round with MCL so far. Even when he returns, it will likely hamper him for a period.
KPP
Samuela Fainu - Missed 6 rounds with stress fracture in foot. Another 5-6 to go. Impact on fitness levels for rest of season.
Pole
Koroisau - Something has impacted his fitness levels the past 2 weeks???
Terrell May - nursed a back problem through pre-season. Ok now.
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Latu Fainu - minimal contact in pre-season due to shoulder recon. Has been on a slow build of mins.
Sione Fainu
Hunt - possibly out for season with pec???
Seyfarth
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Just made some notes showcasing the injury impact on our Best 17 this season.

Bula - Missed 4 rounds. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Turuva - No injury. Just moved around from right wing to cover fullback & centre, lack of conntinuity.
To'a - Hampered by his elbow/tricep injury from last year, also restricted pre-season with stress reaction in foot impacting his fitness levels.
Taylan May - Missed 4 rounds early in the season & past 2 rounds with shoulder. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Makasini - 18yo who has been targeted heavily by opposition & media - mental fatigue. Stress reaction in foot to miss 5 rounds. Playing with AC/shoulder injury.
Luai - Missed 3 rounds with MCL. Knee did restrict him for at least month after he returned. Question marks on mental impact of PNG signing after Round 8.
Doueihi - Missed 5 rounds with shoulder. Will be nursing his shoulder the remainder of the season.
Twal - Missed 1 round with MCL so far. Even when he returns, it will likely hamper him for a period.
KPP
Samuela Fainu - Missed 6 rounds with stress fracture in foot. Another 5-6 to go. Impact on fitness levels for rest of season.
Pole
Koroisau - Something has impacted his fitness levels the past 2 weeks???
Terrell May - nursed a back problem through pre-season. Ok now.
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Latu Fainu - minimal contact in pre-season due to shoulder recon. Has been on a slow build of mins.
Sione Fainu
Hunt - possibly out for season with pec???
Seyfarth
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Twally missed the Manly game as well. Sione HIA last week. Not even sure we’ve had the same backline once this year, it’s the walking wounded!
 
Not making excuses, but we need some equity from the ref at the start of the game as well. That first six again on the fourth last week against Penrith snowballed diabolically and there was just no discernible reason for it. A call like that so early in the game can screw the whole fixture. We weren't going to hold out Penrith but it seems like every week we're getting these farcical set restarts against us that compound in nonstop defence, fatigue and errors.
 
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Airport05 said:
Not making excuses, but we need some equity from the ref at the start of the game as well. That first six again on the fourth last week against Penrith snowballed diabolically and there was just no discernible reason for it. A call like that so early in the game can screw the whole fixture. We weren't going to hold out Penrith but it seems like every week we're getting these farcical set restarts against us that compound in nonstop defence, fatigue and errors.
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I hate to use the ref as an excuse, and we were never likely to beat Penrith, but once they had 90% possession in the first 20 minutes, it was never going to end well. The boys didn't give up, they were just depleted. Sometimes, 50/50 calls change the whole complexion of the game.
When To'o fielded that kick and Mak was taken out of the play, that's a tigers penalty, which meant possession on the Penrith 22. Instead, To'o takes off downfield against a tiring, scattered defence and there's another 6 points before you know it.
Mak cops a shoulder charge from a front rower and turns the ball over. There's another WT possession that ends in points for Penrith.
You can't win without the ball, and I know we turned it over plenty, but the ref doesn't have to hand it over as well.
I know, we still would have lost, but not by that score. Maybe not even to nil.
BTW, Makasini is an 18 year old kid on the receiving end of, at minimum, a shoulder charge every week.
You can't even touch the toe of a kicker. Don't dare rough up Sam Walker. Seems you can belt a promising WT junior into submission without fear.
 
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tigerballs said:
I hate to use the ref as an excuse, and we were never likely to beat Penrith, but once they had 90% possession in the first 20 minutes, it was never going to end well. The boys didn't give up, they were just depleted. Sometimes, 50/50 calls change the whole complexion of the game.
When To'o fielded that kick and Mak was taken out of the play, that's a tigers penalty, which meant possession on the Penrith 22. Instead, To'o takes off downfield against a tiring, scattered defence and there's another 6 points before you know it.
Mak cops a shoulder charge from a front rower and turns the ball over. There's another WT possession that ends in points for Penrith.
You can't win without the ball, and I know we turned it over plenty, but the ref doesn't have to hand it over as well.
I know, we still would have lost, but not by that score. Maybe not even to nil.
BTW, Makasini is an 18 year old kid on the receiving end of, at minimum, a shoulder charge every week.
You can't even touch the toe of a kicker. Don't dare rough up Sam Walker. Seems you can belt a promising WT junior into submission without fear.
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nailed it
 
Jolls said:
The big questions for this week:
  • How many minutes can Latu realistically play at hooker before fatigue becomes an issue?
  • Can Hope bridge that gap or is there a better answer?
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Yes, hopefully 25 minutes at full throttle.

A bit of a question mark over Latu's line speed and ruck domination, is it up to it. Fortunaltely he has a some help with Fainu playing at lock, I can see him having a good game by just working his backside off and not worrying about defending on the edges.

We can't make any errors, we need as much control as possible, much easier said then done for a team like the Tigers. This is the key for me.

The change in the interpretation of the ruck may have hurt us latley, we have never been able to slow the ruck down like other teams.
 
tigerballs said:
I hate to use the ref as an excuse, and we were never likely to beat Penrith, but once they had 90% possession in the first 20 minutes, it was never going to end well. The boys didn't give up, they were just depleted. Sometimes, 50/50 calls change the whole complexion of the game.
When To'o fielded that kick and Mak was taken out of the play, that's a tigers penalty, which meant possession on the Penrith 22. Instead, To'o takes off downfield against a tiring, scattered defence and there's another 6 points before you know it.
Mak cops a shoulder charge from a front rower and turns the ball over. There's another WT possession that ends in points for Penrith.
You can't win without the ball, and I know we turned it over plenty, but the ref doesn't have to hand it over as well.
I know, we still would have lost, but not by that score. Maybe not even to nil.
BTW, Makasini is an 18 year old kid on the receiving end of, at minimum, a shoulder charge every week.
You can't even touch the toe of a kicker. Don't dare rough up Sam Walker. Seems you can belt a promising WT junior into submission without fear.
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We can’t control the ref but the three schoolboy errors afterwards is on us. Earlier in the year we had a resilient mindset. I’m sure this week we are all about what we can control.
 
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