OFFICIAL Adam Doueihi #227

I understand the Matto link but it’s really not the same. He did it to avoid paying a fine. Adam got his charge downgraded and therefore only had to a pay a fine. Then he decided not to play due to his headspace being all off. So Adam while yes doged the club and his mates on the weekend he still paid the fine for the charge. So no Adam and Matterson are not really comparable imo
 
Telltails said:
Good culture in the NRL is measured by success/talent. Funny how some of even the best clubs under admired coaches have had their most talented of players guilty of letting their club team down by their choices -some illegal and if frowned upon by society.
NRL is a reflection of young society - sometimes tempted/responsible for poor choices and that happens across all clubs. When it happens in clubs at the bottom of the table it's a culture problem.
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Exactly. AD could sign with Newy and get caught up in a cubicle incident with Ponga.

Bit naive to think all clubs don’t have blokes letting standards slip.

Losing obviously heightened the emotions and AD flipped his lid.

He’ll be under the microscope this weekend.
 
Tired Tiger said:
It's not about forgiveness, take the emotion out of it...

It's about standards and culture along with accountability...

Words are none of those things and the reality of life is their are consequences for the actions we take.

Letting him off Scott free sends a poor message.

There is no way the team has forgiven him, some player maybe but mostly it's been a show for the camera.

You reckon Terrell is happy with the leaked vaping crap ... Our performances indicate there are massive issues within the playing group....
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So if benji was partly in the wrong do you suggest he sits out a week too?
 
Jimmy said:
I understand the Matto link but it’s really not the same. He did it to avoid paying a fine. Adam got his charge downgraded and therefore only had to a pay a fine. Then he decided not to play due to his headspace being all off. So Adam while yes doged the club and his mates on the weekend he still paid the fine for the charge. So no Adam and Matterson are not really comparable imo
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He said today he shouldve played.
The mental health card obviously an excuse
We still really dont know why he didnt play....we.just know he didnt play, like.matto..the same thing
 
Telltails said:
AD has made his bed now he has to lie in it. He hasn't got away with anything - if anything he has put a huge target in his back.
The players and coach have a relationship with him unlike fans who see him more like a commodity - useful until he isn't.
If Benji/players choose to move on and get on with it then it is the most mature action and shows that they value him.
They cant control what people from the outside looking in will make of it.
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The one thing that can’t be faked is the 80 minutes between the whistles.

That’s how we’ll know how rosey things are at Concord.
 
Tired Tiger said:
It's a simple concept really, being sorry dose not free you from the consequences of your actions of which there has been zero consequences to him for his actions.....
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TT you carry on as if AD killed someone. He made a mistake, accepted he should have played, apologised to Benji, his team mates and publicly. His name has been tarnished by his actions and his coach and team mates have accepted it. Has been at the Tigers for 6 years with 3 to go. That shows his loyalty to us more than other player in our history. You need to move on and judge his actions on the field hereafter.
 
Illek said:
i've done plenty of dumb things in my life, but not to the people I care and respect. Saying sorry is hollow to me when he had no other option. He dragged Benji and the club through the mud, he hung his team mates out to dry.

The narrative was against him, no other club wanted to touch him when majority of the media turned on him. Very easy to say sorry when you have no other option. Last week he had plenty of time to reverse his decision and suit up but he didn't.

Other fans can choose to forgive him thats their choice, but I was in canberra when he wasn't so I never will.
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I feel sorry for you that you will never forgive him for his ... up. Have some empathy. It's not that important in the scheme of things.
 
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Droppy05 said:
I feel sorry for you that you will never forgive him for his ... up. Have some empathy. It's not that important in the scheme of things.
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Mate, I sat there with my kids in the cold and had to explain why their favourite player couldn't make it. I sat in the car for 3 1/2hrs back with them to our home in albury devastated after the loss. They only get to see games in melbourne and canberra as sydney is too far to drive. These are their favourite two days of the year and we almost never win. Normally they don't care if the tigers lose, they are use to it, but to not have their favourite player put on his boots not through injury, through a disagreement broke my heart. He can claim he cares about the fans, but in my two kids eyes he couldn't have cared less about them on that day. They were devestated and this is the first time they don't want to be tigers fans. Maybe one day he will earn their respect back and Ill change my mind on him, but till that day I don't want to see him in our jersey. I dont expect others to have such a black and white view on him, but not every fan has to be happy with his apology and having him back either.
 
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Illek said:
Mate, I sat there with my kids in the cold and had to explain why their favourite player couldn't make it. I sat in the car for 3 1/2hrs back with them to our home in albury devastated after the loss. They only get to see games in melbourne and canberra as sydney is too far to drive. These are their favourite two days of the year and we almost never win. Normally they don't care if the tigers lose, they are use to it, but to not have their favourite player put on his boots not through injury, through a disagreement broke my heart. He can claim he cares about the fans, but in my two kids eyes he couldn't have cared less about them on that day. They were devestated and this is the first time they don't want to be tigers fans. Maybe one day he will earn their respect back and Ill change my mind on him, but till that day I don't want to see him in our jersey. I dont expect others to have such a black and white view on him, but not every fan has to be happy with his apology and having him back either.
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I can sympathise with you and the kids. Lets hope he can redeem himself somewhat this weekend and the rest of the year.
 
jirskyr said:
That's not really a genuine comparison. If you had a disagreement with your boss and asked for a day off to get your head straight, which is more accurate to what happened, 100% you would be allowed to do this and return.

Workplace protections apply to League as much as any job and there is a strong Union to deal with.
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Damn you for being right haha
 
Droppy05 said:
TT you carry on as if AD killed someone. He made a mistake, accepted he should have played, apologised to Benji, his team mates and publicly. His name has been tarnished by his actions and his coach and team mates have accepted it. Has been at the Tigers for 6 years with 3 to go. That shows his loyalty to us more than other player in our history. You need to move on and judge his actions on the field hereafter.
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Wow sitting out a week of football is the penalty for killing someone... Dramatic much.

I don't need to do anything. Your the one re writing history. But each to their own.
 
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I get the press conference was handled well by AD and Benji but I can’t ever forgive AD for dogging the team and the jersey.

It’s the leaking and premeditated aspect that frustrates me the most and to me that’s unforgivable.

Now AD walks back into the 7 jersey after choosing to sit out a week.

I don’t really care that he’s remorseful. The club has shown that players can throw a tantrum, refuse to play, and get their way. Whole thing reeks of selfishness.

It’s what’s been wrong with this joint for over a decade and if Benji and the club were serious about changing the culture they wouldn’t have indulged AD.
 
Pringle Gold said:
I get the press conference was handled well by AD and Benji but I can’t ever forgive AD for dogging the team and the jersey.

It’s the leaking and premeditated aspect that frustrates me the most and to me that’s unforgivable.

Now AD walks back into the 7 jersey after choosing to sit out a week.

I don’t really care that he’s remorseful. The club has shown that players can throw a tantrum, refuse to play, and get their way. Whole thing reeks of selfishness.

It’s what’s been wrong with this joint for over a decade and if Benji and the club were serious about changing the culture they wouldn’t have indulged AD.
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you dont think there are learnings from all parties to be had over this?...Especially Benji!
 
Furious1 said:
If only it was as easy as saying sorry, being forgiven and everyone moving on. The reputational damage done by these actions to WT, Benji and AD himself will live on far longer than any sorry that has been dished out.
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Emotions are still high. If he replicates his early season form and we started winning again, I think it would be forgotten pretty fast.
 
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