2019 Coaching saga -Thread

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He has a contract for the next two years. I personally think that he will fulfill that contract.

Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Can you honestly say Pascoe is acting like a CEO who knows his coach is committed to the cause. I just cant see how you cant justify that statement.

Love is blind..
 
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My guess is earliest resolution - Friday, most likely though next week.
Pascoe away until Thursday, also waiting on the $$$ from Riff

Here's hoping it's put to an end, AT.
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Can you honestly say Pascoe is acting like a CEO who knows his coach is committed to the cause. I just cant see how you cant justify that statement.

Love is blind..

So so blind
 
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He has a contract for the next two years. I personally think that he will fulfill that contract.

Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

The club has told us Ivan asked for a release and it was rejected. Pascoe has also told us that his relationship with Ivan Cleary has been fractured, what more do you want the club to say. They aren’t going to give us an update on how their negotiations with possibly 2 coaches and the panthers are going.

When did the club say Ivan asked for a release….in fact the club said IF IVAN asks for a release he will not be granted one...
If Pascoe and Ivans relationship is on a thin edge,sobeit,the WTs and Ivan have a contract not Ivan and Pascoe ( that is personal and not applicable)

understand the format of contractual agreements before you start to throw you arguements into the ring....emotions get you no where facts and monetary value outwiegh all else in the NRL arena...FACT..
 
I love all the “present the facts only” arguments on here. This forum is more about passion, emotion and opinion than it is about facts. After a loss there are many many emotional opinions voiced - rarely based in fact. Thoughts on ex-players worth also opinion not fact.
Personally, it is my opinion that Cleary will not be here next year based on everything I’ve seen and heard. It is my opinion we are currently searching for a new coach. It is my opinion that Cleary was ordered to read the prepared statement by the CEO which is why he read it so blandly. It is my opinion that Cleary has disrespected this club. If in time I’m proven wrong, I’ll admit it as I’ve done before. Up until then I’ll post my opinions and I’ll respect anyone else who does the same thing.
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Can you honestly say Pascoe is acting like a CEO who knows his coach is committed to the cause. I just cant see how you cant justify that statement.

Ivan signed for 3 years initially,after that he can do what he likes…you and avo are making it personal without getting confirmation from the club....I will wait until I here from Pascoe and the club before I start talking things such as untenable,he is a dog ,he is off the bus...so much immaturity without facts...

Geez TT, Ivan wanted (and virtually undoubtedly still wants) to leave us to go to Penrith, not at the expiration if his WT contract, but now and told Pascoe and the club just that. That he was originally told in no uncertain terms that he would not be allowed to leave, even if he officially requested a release, doesn't stop the club from changing it's stance, nor does it alter the fact that he dogged us.

The only problem is referring to him as a dog, because they are almost always the most loyal creatures, something that Ivan has shown himself to be sadly lacking, despite espousing such values as a requirement for his players.
 
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He has a contract for the next two years. I personally think that he will fulfill that contract.

Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

The club has told us Ivan asked for a release and it was rejected. Pascoe has also told us that his relationship with Ivan Cleary has been fractured, what more do you want the club to say. They aren’t going to give us an update on how their negotiations with possibly 2 coaches and the panthers are going.

The club has NOT stated Ivan has asked for a release and was rejected.The club stated IF he asked for a release it would be rejected.A statement with a completely different meaning to what you claim.I know nothing about the actual state of affairs regarding the coaching.Everything else is speculation which some people wallow in
 
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I love all the “present the facts only” arguments on here. This forum is more about passion, emotion and opinion than it is about facts. After a loss there are many many emotional opinions voiced - rarely based in fact. Thoughts on ex-players worth also opinion not fact.
Personally, it is my opinion that Cleary will not be here next year based on everything I’ve seen and heard. It is my opinion we are currently searching for a new coach. It is my opinion that Cleary was ordered to read the prepared statement by the CEO which is why he read it so blandly. It is my opinion that Cleary has disrespected this club. If in time I’m proven wrong, I’ll admit it as I’ve done before. Up until then I’ll post my opinions and I’ll respect anyone else who does the same thing.

And this is why i have "Its an opinion" as my signature. No matter how obvious it is that we are talking from our perspective and our interpretation others just flat out refuse to accept anything but the company line.

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He has a contract for the next two years. I personally think that he will fulfill that contract.

Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.
 
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AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Can you honestly say Pascoe is acting like a CEO who knows his coach is committed to the cause. I just cant see how you cant justify that statement.

Ivan signed for 3 years initially,after that he can do what he likes…you and avo are making it personal without getting confirmation from the club....I will wait until I here from Pascoe and the club before I start talking things such as untenable,he is a dog ,he is off the bus...so much immaturity without facts...

Geez TT, Ivan wanted (and virtually undoubtedly still wants) to leave us to go to Penrith, not at the expiration if his WT contract, but now and told Pascoe and the club just that. That he was originally told in no uncertain terms that he would not be allowed to leave, even if he officially requested a release, doesn't stop the club from changing it's stance, nor does it alter the fact that he dogged us.

The only problem is referring to him as a dog, because they are almost always the most loyal creatures, something that Ivan has shown himself to be sadly lacking, despite espousing such values as a requirement for his players.

You and I have had conversations face to face FG,we both know that until we hear from the club everything is purely speculation…I liked meeting you and others at our get togethers and hopefully you dont think worse of me because I give my factual opinion on this matter..
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

But but both Maguire and Bennett are in the UK at the moment. We’re still no closer to solving the riddle?
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

I believe it was Michael Chammas who reported it.

Yes I’m sure he’s not there to see Salisbury Cathedral..
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

Is he having a pint with Maguire or Bennett..
 
I really don't care if Ivan sees out his contract with us or moves on….I would rather a confirmation from the club that Iam a member of rather than hearing speculative opinions from people who wouldn't or couldn't know what is going on behind the scenes..

Its that simple....
 
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Cool, thanks Col. Maybe you should call Pascoe and tell him to stop interviewing replacements then?

AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

The club has told us Ivan asked for a release and it was rejected. Pascoe has also told us that his relationship with Ivan Cleary has been fractured, what more do you want the club to say. They aren’t going to give us an update on how their negotiations with possibly 2 coaches and the panthers are going.

The club has NOT stated Ivan has asked for a release and was rejected.The club stated IF he asked for a release it would be rejected.A statement with a completely different meaning to what you claim.I know nothing about the actual state of affairs regarding the coaching.Everything else is speculation which some people wallow in

"As we expressed to Ivan this morning, the position of the club — and it's a really strong position — is that the club is going to fight for this. Under no circumstances will we be granting Ivan Cleary a release," Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe said on Tuesday night.

Why would they need to express to Ivan any of this if he didn’t want to be released? Would be pretty strange I think.
 
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AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

Is he having a pint with Maguire or Bennett..

Read thinks Broncos are next on the list to appoint a coach.
 
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I really don't care if Ivan sees out his contract with us or moves on….I would rather a confirmation from the club that Iam a member of rather than hearing speculative opinions from people who wouldn't or couldn't know what is going on behind the scenes..

Its that simple....

Then don’t read the forum

It’s that simple…..
 
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You’re having the wool pulled over your eyes if you believe anything regarding TPAs that comes from NRL.com. TPAs may have technically started in 2006, but they did not become a prominent issue until the 2010s. I honestly didn’t read your entire post because it was long and this conversation is at the point where we are just going to go around in circles. Agree to disagree

So the NRL is lying…

Burying their head in the sand more like
 
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AVO and Patriots hate for Ivan is overwhelming without knowledge from the club….dont make this all about what you guys want...its the nrl and anything is possible...

Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

But but both Maguire and Bennett are in the UK at the moment. We’re still no closer to solving the riddle?

Well it's up to Maguire but he's waiting for Bennett who's waiting for the Broncos who are waiting for Seibold. Not sure who he's waiting for…
 
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Thanks TT. Can you please clarify why he was in NZ then? That’d be great.

Has it been confirmed that he was in NZ? Apparently he's in the UK now. I'm sure you can work out he's not just there for the sights.

Is he having a pint with Maguire or Bennett..

Read thinks Broncos are next on the list to appoint a coach.

Last candidate for the donkeys interviewed today. Hopefully they announce something this week.
 

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