2019 Coaching saga -Thread
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Nucky_Thompson
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Given seibold hasn't re-signed with rabbits means a sure thing at broncs
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No doubt they're enjoying it. Seibold the favourite for them which is no surprise.
goldcoast_tiger
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What I think is really odd , is that the club , who is the only player in all this ,who can throw some light on what’s happening. isn’t saying anything at all. The one person who has said plainly what he intends to do is Cleary , when he said that he would be honouring his contract.. yet a lot here ,is still saying that Ivan has gone missing.
He’s stated what he will be doing, what more do some of us want,
I think its gone past the time, that the club started to tell their membership just what do THEY intend to do.
We have Pascoe running around the world doing what???
Finding a new Coach?? If that’s the case it’s taken a bloody long time,!
Maybe we need a new CEO if Pascoe can’t work any quicker than this, or is it a case of no one wants to come here unless we’re the only club left.
The only people who can say anything at the moment is the club, and they are playing no speaks,
The longer it goes on, the club looks more like a Marx Brothers outfit.
TIGERPOWER
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So why did Pascoe tell us the club will fight for this. If Ivan didn’t want to go, there is nothing for Pascoe to fight.
goldcoast_tiger
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FG, Any chance you can let us know where you saw that Ivan was quoted as saying that he wants to leave here NOW?
There’s been nothing like that that I’ve seen or heard.
It seems that you are just putting words into Clearys mouth to suit your argument,
If hes going to honour his contract, as he said he would,
Why are you saying that he’s dogging us
So far as I can see so far, he’s done nothing wrong , that could change, but so far he hasn’t
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Reading a written statement with no questions is not what I consider saying something plainly GCT. It was an exercise in damage control as far as Im concerned, and Ivan has been untouchable since.
If the club was backing Ivan allowing these rumours to take hold like they have, and damage his reputation with the fans and players, would be the dumbest move we have made in a longtime.
The big fear for me - maybe paranoia - but for all the talk of getting either Bennett or Madge - that neither want the job and we will be left with a coach that wants out, and a CEO who tried to make it happen but couldnt.
Not an ideal way to start the season..but if that's where we are headed they better start publically backing Cleary soon.
jirskyr
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You are splitting hairs. I never said the "concept" of a non-salary agreement never existed before. We were discussing the performance of NRL clubs within the current TPA rules and regulations, i.e. since 2006.
goldcoast_tiger
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A written statement actually is saying something clearly TT. , and sometimes used when someone wants to say something that he doesn’t want to be taken the wrong way, or another partynhas been throwing legal threats around, ,
Just because you want him to say something else, doesn’t change the fact that he couldn’t be clearer than he was
Just because you want him to say something else, doesn’t change the fact that he couldn’t be clearer than he was
Tim Sheens
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Yeah, you're argument has plenty of legs, he has done nothing, the club simply weren't prepared to release Cleary upon his contract finishing in 2020 and his relationship with Pascoe has been affected by Ivan wanting to leave when he was entitled to.
Your argument is nonsensical and you know it.
goldcoast_tiger
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In order to sound like he has control over Cleary,
iF Cleary asked for a release, why wouldn’t Pascoe have simply said in his release that “Ivan asked for a release”
He didn’t say that,,,,,,,,,,wHY.?
it would actually been more damming for Ivan , and he was obviously trying to make Cleary look as bad as he could
And even Go didn’t mention it , and after all it would have made the clubs position a lot better if he had said that,
goldcoast_tiger
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You almost answered your own post
He hasnt broken any NRL rules, or commercial laws or rules , or any contractual law or even any WTs rules.
His relationship with Pascoe is something that’s between them,
I’d be happy to change my mind if you can tell me what has he done wrong.l
I’m not asking about what you don’t like. Simply what has he done WRONG ,or what Law, rule,or regulation has he broken
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Understood why they did it GCT but didnt buy it then, and still dont buy it now.
An exercise in damage control imo -and refusing questions offered no transparency.
I think that prepared statement is given way too much recognition, in view of recent events.
If Ivan does coach next year its time the club hosed down the rumours but until that happens it all points to a club and a coach who would rather part ways.
happy_tiger
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Benny is a self confessed chocaholic
Get Darrell Lea on board , he won't be able to resist
Tim Sheens
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Rubbish, I have never mentioned legality and his actions have not been affected by what I may, or, may not like.
If you now think one expecting more of their subordinates than of themselves, and especially when having portrayed otherwise publicly is not wrong, then fine, but I expect that is not the case
tiger05premier
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We can’t have Madge ‘locked down’ CB as that implies he’s signed a contract. Cleary is legally our coach until 2020.
All Penrith have to do is say were not paying $500k we will wait another two years for IC and all of a sudden we are screwed. At best, Madge has verbally agreed terms awaiting the MGR
Than IC might miss his chance at winning a premiership with NC
It's come to arguing about what happened at the beginning of this whole saga…all I know is houses were lost lol ha lol..
goldcoast_tiger
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Barrett has submitted a resignation letter.
Cleary hasnt.
There-in lies the difference…most can see it.
