2021 Trials

[Harvey]

All I got from last nights game is that our depth really sucks


I got the opposite feeling about our depth,for the first time in years it looked reasonable

It was a trial, but the depth does concern me. A few of the starting side are in our top 30 (most the backs and at least half the forwards) and they should have blown a bunch of kids off the park.

Hopefully some of the terrible defensive reads by the outside backs were due to unfamiliar combinations. Manly will be a better test, but if some of those that played last night (Cini, Madden) get an extended run in first grade, we will be in some serious trouble.

 

[walter]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

I’m pretty sure they changed the rule this year after r11 cc cup players can ply nrl

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

I’m pretty sure they changed the rule this year after r11 cc cup players can ply nrl

Development players yes

 

[cochise]

All I got from last nights game is that our depth really sucks

Really ..I reckon our depth players (NRL)Simpkin, Lauire, Simpkins, Utoikamamu, Seyfarth, Madden did OK...Tuilagi (development) was very good..Chee-Kam not the best but picked up a niggle..

Lot of those others would be State Cup players mixed with Flegg reps who had already played a game and gave it it to the Raiders..but are unlikely to see NRL this year..

Was Tuiagl in 12 mate? If so I thought he was very impressive.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Volkman steers Roosters to trial win over Wests Tigers

Author
Alicia Newton
NRL.com Reporter
Sat 20 Feb 2021, 08:16 PM

Little-known playmaker Ronald Volkman lit up Kirkham Park with two tries as the Roosters overcame the Wests Tigers 28-22 in a trial in Camden on Saturday.

Volkman, considered one of the best juniors coming through the club's system, scored a chip-and-chase try before pouncing on a loose ball and racing 70 metres to break an 18-18 deadlock late.

The Roosters kicked away again shortly after through Naufahu Whtye to seal a win that won't leave Michael Maguire with any further clarity on the make-up of his spine combination leading into round one.

New recruit Daine Laurie didn't look out of place at five-eighth with some light-footed stepping and ball-playing but struggled to stand out against a Roosters side made up of first-grade hopefuls.

The former Panther, who arrived at the club a fortnight ago, linked with Michael Chee Kam and Tommy Talau on the left edge for the opening 40 minutes before reverting to fullback in the second half.

With Adam Doueihi suspended for round one, Laurie will have another chance to impress next week in the club's main trial against the Sea Eagles, where most of Maguire's big names will be available.

Back-up playmaker Jock Madden was busy with a few classy kicks but struggled to match the skills of Volkman.

Another area that left more questions than answers was at hooker with Jake Simpkin and Jacob Liddle sharing the duties throughout the game.

Simpkin looked sharp in a 30-minute stint before Liddle came on and shared a middle role.

Former Parramatta prop Stefano Utoikamanu also looked solid in limited opportunities.

Ultimately, it was a rusty effort from both outfits with many players stepping onto the field for the first time in almost 12 months due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The visitors crossed early through Sione Hopoate as Roosters coach Trent Robinson watched on from the sidelines.

Former Raider Brad Abbey put his case forward for earning a Roosters contract with a solid stint at fullback before leaving the field for a head injury assessment.

There were concerning scenes late with promising Wests Tigers forward Billy Stapleton suffering a suspected broken jaw after a collision with his first touch.

Stapleton was taken to hospital via ambulance in sad scenes to an otherwise positive afternoon in Sydney's south-west.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.nrl.com/news/2021/02/20/volkman-steers-roosters-to-trial-win-over-wests-tigers/amp/

 

[Harvey]

All I got from last nights game is that our depth really sucks

Really ..I reckon our depth players (NRL)Simpkin, Lauire, Simpkins, Utoikamamu, Seyfarth, Madden did OK...Tuilagi (development) was very good..Chee-Kam not the best but picked up a niggle..

Lot of those others would be State Cup players mixed with Flegg reps who had already played a game and gave it it to the Raiders..but are unlikely to see NRL this year..

Was Tuiagl in 12 mate? If so I thought he was very impressive.

Yes he was and I thought the same. He would be near the top of the queue if we need to finalise more of our top 30.

 

[walter]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

I’m pretty sure they changed the rule this year after r11 cc cup players can ply nrl

Development players yes

I know development players can but I’m pretty sure they changed it at the start of this year to help the sides with injuries in the back half of the season

 

[Needaname]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

This is weird from the above article... Former Raider Brad Abbey put his case forward for earning a Roosters contract with a solid stint at fullback before leaving the field for a head injury assessment....

Abbey is on a train and Trial with the Rorters currently..if he can play with that contract..why would he need to earn a contract..

 

[Needaname]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

 

[Speed2burn]

All I got from last nights game is that our depth really sucks

Really ..I reckon our depth players (NRL)Simpkin, Lauire, Simpkins, Utoikamamu, Seyfarth, Madden did OK...Tuilagi (development) was very good..Chee-Kam not the best but picked up a niggle..

Lot of those others would be State Cup players mixed with Flegg reps who had already played a game and gave it it to the Raiders..but are unlikely to see NRL this year..

Was Tuiagl in 12 mate? If so I thought he was very impressive.

Yes he was and I thought the same. He would be near the top of the queue if we need to finalise more of our top 30.

Plays in a position we struggle for depth in aswell

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

I liked what I saw of Simpkins & Stefano in the forwards. Jake S surprised me I think he will make the step up at some stage, also was interesting that him and Liddle were on there together ala when Harry was with us. Laurie looked threatening Fitzgibbon did some nice grunt work out of D. But out of all of them the one that jumped out of the pack was Seyfarth he had some extra leg drive that I didn’t think he had in him, he sort of loped anytime I’ve seen him play could be a smokey. I don’t however see the hype some give for Madden but hasn’t played in a year could be just rusty. You could see a few we’re playing for contracts Roberts Davis didn’t do himself any favours there could be one for reggies.


THis is pretty juvenile I guess, but Im kind of worried about team harmony now the rubber is hitting the road.

A lot of this years off season has had a very indigenous flavour to it, which I applaud. Startinging with the signing of JTJ, partnerships with indigenous groups and imprtantly increasing numbers of koori players in the squad. I know Roberts Davis is a cousin of JTJ and Fitzgibbon is obviously close to them all, but for mine Roberts Davis does not get a top 30 spot and Fitzgibbon is very borderline.

No way Roberts-Davis will get a top 30 gig a CC contract maybe, I do think however if Fitzgibbon keeps his head down and bum up he could. Having a few indigenous players for the sake of looking good isn’t what we’re going for IMO. Giving guys an opportunity hell yeah creating a pathway doing those little things like you mentioned is all part of it. If we put it all in place a few years down the road it could pay dividends, instead of every kid coming through wanting to go to South’s or whoever they might think hey JTJ, Laurie, Fitzgibbon ect ect got a shot why can’t I. You’re opinion isn’t juvenile it’s valid harmony could become an issue, I guess we’re all hoping it’s a harmonious season ahead.

I thought Robert-Davis really struggled tonight, I thought he would step up when he was playing with the less experience players towards the end of the game but that was actually the worst period of his game with him over playing his hand and making critical mistakes.

He was solid early and had no trouble barking orders at the defensive line.

The occasion of playing for a contract might have gotten to him, i thought he looked decent early too and then he struggled quite a lot and the opposition was not good lets be fair about that.

 

[JC99]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

NRL definitely changed it so reserve graders are eligible for first grade from round 11. There was an article about it not too long ago

https://t.co/P8pYaRZtFw

"the NRL has rushed through a rule change to allow clubs to dip into their feeder club stocks midway through the season as injuries begin to hit.

Players outside of the a club’s top-30 roster can be called up from their Queensland Cup or NSW Cup teams from Round 11.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the rule change but added that the players must be signed to club’s on a training deal to take the field."

 

[TheDaBoss]

weststigers.com.au/news/2021/02/20/2021-match-highlights-trial-wests-tigers-vs.-roosters/

 

[Needaname]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

NRL definitely changed it so reserve graders are eligible for first grade from round 11. There was an article about it not too long ago

https://t.co/P8pYaRZtFw

"the NRL has rushed through a rule change to allow clubs to dip into their feeder club stocks midway through the season as injuries begin to hit.

Players outside of the a club’s top-30 roster can be called up from their Queensland Cup or NSW Cup teams from Round 11.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the rule change but added that the players must be signed to club’s on a training deal to take the field."

Cheers mate. Thanks for finding the article. I knew I wasn’t blowing smoke.

I’d be interested to hear the official rule and conditions surrounding it from your chat with Hartigan @Geo. Can you keep me posted?

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

NRL definitely changed it so reserve graders are eligible for first grade from round 11. There was an article about it not too long ago

https://t.co/P8pYaRZtFw

"the NRL has rushed through a rule change to allow clubs to dip into their feeder club stocks midway through the season as injuries begin to hit.

Players outside of the a club’s top-30 roster can be called up from their Queensland Cup or NSW Cup teams from Round 11.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the rule change but added that the players must be signed to club’s on a training deal to take the field."

Thanks Josh..

Would still need an exemption and injury cover only ...if it got to that level you are probably screwed..

 

[Geo]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

NRL definitely changed it so reserve graders are eligible for first grade from round 11. There was an article about it not too long ago

https://t.co/P8pYaRZtFw

"the NRL has rushed through a rule change to allow clubs to dip into their feeder club stocks midway through the season as injuries begin to hit.

Players outside of the a club’s top-30 roster can be called up from their Queensland Cup or NSW Cup teams from Round 11.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the rule change but added that the players must be signed to club’s on a training deal to take the field."

Cheers mate. Thanks for finding the article. I knew I wasn’t blowing smoke.

I’d be interested to hear the official rule and conditions surrounding it from your chat with Hartigan @Geo. Can you keep me posted?

It does explain why the Club has indicated that players are on train and trial deals currently I guess..

 

[JC99]

Most of these blokes had a good hit out and had a taste of what it would be like against older seasoned players…hope they keep improving as the year goes on…

That would be good except the side the Rorters fielded included players with 0 NRL game experience..not 1..ooh unless you count Brad Abbey....and most not even State Cup

Yes this really concerns me also.
Only 1, One player Fletcher Baker in that trial is part of the Roosters first grade squad.

Now with the new rule change to teams getting access to the 2nd tier cap. All these players are available for depth.
What’s that 60 players loosely contracted to the roosters?
And yet we fielded a side with 8 players of first grade experience and about 10 of them being part of our top 30...

Which side suffered the most injuries last year?.... hmmm.
Which team has a coach on the NRL rules committee?... hmmm.

Guess what guys. We are 5 steps behind the rest of the league, like always......

2nd tier Cap...?

Is that the Rorters other filing cabinet...

Good point. But has it been confirmed how it will work this year yet?

How what works..?

Same as pre-covid...Can only play NRL if you have a top 30 NRL contract...Development contracted players permitted to play after Round 11 but an exemption need to be sought..

2020 Development players were allowed to play with exemption from the restart as Squads were in the bubble..

No bubble as yet..

So it’s not offical yet that players outside of that and in the reserves teams can be used in addition to the development players?

Not that it helps us much.
There would be about 10 players outside of our 30 squad that trialled last night that would be decent enough for reserve grade.

Not sure what you mean official...Not since 2017 when the 2nd Tier cap was abolished have players outside NRL contracted players that can play NRL..

That hasn't changed..

Ok I cannot find the article that confirmed the change but it appears players can be signed outside the 30 on train and trial deals as part of the 2nd tier cap I guess.
They along with the dev players are available for selection from round 11.

Well happy to be corrected..I had not heard that...I will check with Adam Hartigan...

Those deals though would have to come under the NRL salary cap as 2nd Tier cap no longer exists..Interesting concept..

Yes it’s mentioned in the nrl signings news with Parramatta signing Tim Lafai to a part time contract outside of the 30.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/23/2021-signings-tracker-official-rosters-and-contracts-for-all-16-clubs2/

I take that as could be elevated to a NRL contract later in the year with spots available..

NRL definitely changed it so reserve graders are eligible for first grade from round 11. There was an article about it not too long ago

https://t.co/P8pYaRZtFw

"the NRL has rushed through a rule change to allow clubs to dip into their feeder club stocks midway through the season as injuries begin to hit.

Players outside of the a club’s top-30 roster can be called up from their Queensland Cup or NSW Cup teams from Round 11.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the rule change but added that the players must be signed to club’s on a training deal to take the field."

Thanks Josh..

Would still need an exemption and injury cover only ...if it got to that level you are probably screwed..

Yeah you'd have to have a mountain of injuries if you're pulling up reserve graders