$50 Million reason Wests Tigers are prepared to quit Campbelltown.

[Merlot]

hasn't his thread turned into a battle of "The Minds"

 

[crazycat]

I think you will be disappointed CC.

$110M gets you nothing especially given it's government funding. That means there needs to be a strategic business case raised and presented for consideration and approval etc - that is all included in the capital budget so by the time the consultants get it done they will chew through around $2M. Add in 2.5 to 3% per annum in CPI and that will reduce the buying power in real terms by around $10M. So by the time construction comes around we will be looking at $44M for LO and $55M for CAmbo.

I struggled to find something current, in real $ terms, that equates to what we are looking at. The closest I could find, that is publicly available, is the Queensland Government funding of a $62.78 million redevelopment of Browne Park (Rockhampton, QLD) to provide a fit-for-purpose regional facility.
Browne Park Redevelopment

Based on what it is costing the QLD governemnt in today's $ we are likely to see:

• Seating Capacity Upgrade:
  Replace a single grandstand with a three-level 3,500-seat grandstand featuring a roof with improved sightlines, new seating to meet current accessibility compliance (ramps/lifts).
• Facilities Modernisation:
  New player change rooms (M/F), recovery and medical facilities, referees’ rooms, and upgraded media/press facilities.
• Spectator Amenities:
  Improved food/beverage outlets, upgraded toilets, family-friendly zones.
• Technology & Safety:
  LED lighting to broadcast standard, upgraded big screens, improved PA/security systems.
• Partial Roof Structures:
  Roof coverage for parts of the redeveloped stand, but not full coverage across the stadium.

For $309M Penrith will end up with:

• New western stand including improved:
  • player facilities catering for both male and female sports
  • visitor amenities
  • food and beverage areas
  • grandstand seating.
• New eastern stand, including:
  • spectator amenities
  • food and beverage areas
  • grandstand seating.
• Refurbished and new stadium entries on the northern and western boundaries.
• Upgrades to the existing western training field to create:
  • a dedicated player warm-up area
  • an activation hub at the western entry to the stadium
  • additional event day car parking.

So when you look at it in the bigger picture for Wests Tigers the players and corporates will get much better facilities and there will be some improved seating, toilet facilities and disabled access to meet modern requirements along with better food delivery capabilities. The rest of the grounds will get some new lipstick.

I am not seeing 50m in that let alone 300m.

Sure Toilets and showers are a PITA. But you building them for a stadium where you set it out in Bulk.. I.e. rows of showers, not like our bathrooms. A home Bathroom, done right is around the 25k mark. Yes you need to waterproof, tile, test and all the rest. It's a 100k job, not a 1m job.

Sure LED lighting and proper sound systems cost money. Yet not that much, were talking maybe 400k, if top notch 1m.

Add ramps for the disabled. Great! lay concrete at an incline... Yes your concreters are expensive but how damn complex is a ramp? Really??

50m is Issac Moses doing the bricklaying or something?

(Sorry I just don't get it, you may agree or disagree... I still don't get it. Seems like a colossal markup when a good brainy site manager would get it done for far less.).

 

[Merlot]

I am not seeing 50m in that let alone 300m.

Sure Toilets and showers are a PITA. But you building them for a stadium where you set it out in Bulk.. I.e. rows of showers, not like our bathrooms. A home Bathroom, done right is around the 25k mark. Yes you need to waterproof, tile, test and all the rest. It's a 100k job, not a 1m job.

Sure LED lighting and proper sound systems cost money. Yet not that much, were talking maybe 400k, if top notch 1m.

Add ramps for the disabled. Great! lay concrete at an incline... Yes your concreters are expensive but how damn complex is a ramp? Really??

50m is Issac Moses doing the bricklaying or something?

(Sorry I just don't get it, you may agree or disagree... I still don't get it. Seems like a colossal markup when a good brainy site manager would get it done for far less.).

what decade do you think it is ,

 

[BZN]

Or you could save yourself time and anxiety and raise the average IQ of the country and drop off the perch yourself. Just a thought.

BRILLIANT coivtny 👏👏👏👏😆😆😆😆.

 

[Jolls]

I am not seeing 50m in that let alone 300m.

Sure Toilets and showers are a PITA. But you building them for a stadium where you set it out in Bulk.. I.e. rows of showers, not like our bathrooms. A home Bathroom, done right is around the 25k mark. Yes you need to waterproof, tile, test and all the rest. It's a 100k job, not a 1m job.

Sure LED lighting and proper sound systems cost money. Yet not that much, were talking maybe 400k, if top notch 1m.

Add ramps for the disabled. Great! lay concrete at an incline... Yes your concreters are expensive but how damn complex is a ramp? Really??

50m is Issac Moses doing the bricklaying or something?

(Sorry I just don't get it, you may agree or disagree... I still don't get it. Seems like a colossal markup when a good brainy site manager would get it done for far less.).

You don't have a site manager running it - a Govt contract will have a Head Contract/Managing Contract in place where they are taking a cut, meeting all of the Govt reporting requirements etc. You may not see it but if you look at the Qld Project I linked you too that is the cost.

$50M won't go far.

 

[BZN]

That was quite possibly the most incoherent post I’ve ever read. But congrats on the entertainment value.

Firstly, your grasp of geography is interesting. Yeah mate, Terrigal, just south of Nambucca Heads 🤣🤣🤣

Another Excellent post from B2T 👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃.

 

[Merlot]

the money really doesn't purchase much , grateful we got it. Do smart discissions have a used by date ,by the time wokes penpushers and luncheon discussions are done with the environmentalists , Leaves a roof and corporate facilities. Preferer a 50/50 split , Wouldn't be upset if the West s connections can manage the politics and turn us into a force

 

[Merlot]

You don't have a site manager running it - a Govt contract will have a Head Contract/Managing Contract in place where they are taking a cut, meeting all of the Govt reporting requirements etc. You may not see it but if you look at the Qld Project I linked you too that is the cost.

$50M won't go far.

could you plz post a photo of the example you make

 

[Jolls]

could you plz post a photo of the example you make

Browne Park Redevelopment Rockhampton

 

[IronFist]

Campbelltown blows. The stadium and the area. Miserable place.

Lilyfield is a natural amphitheatre of sorts with the grandstand, hill, the properties at the south-south-eastern end, and even the fig trees at the northern end, assisting to enclose the arena. The ground is built into the topography nestled between Glover st at the top, and Mary St below. The grandstand is also above the field (you need to walk up stairs from the field to the dressing room).

Leumeah is totally opposite to that. For the most part, it's a flat piece of land with a couple of grand stands built on top of it. In winter, it's the coldest place on earth. It's a wind tunnel right through it.