Adam Blair To Broncos (CONFIRMED)

New coach,new board and what ever else is new will not help us in 2015 with our current roster. Not enough quality,not enough experience and not enough depth, we will struggle big time. We may have one or two good patches but come the final round I do not see to many team if any behind us.

In saying that a couple of quality hard experienced forwards find their way to Concord and we might be a very rough chance of the eight. I just hope the players can keep positive as their will be good times a few years down the track
 
@stevetiger said:
I really don't see it as being that bad. Anasta is a moron who hasn't been paid 3rd party payments. **Does he deserve anything for his time with us ? He was terrible**.

I've been seeing people write this over and over, and its gotta be one of the most juvenile things i've read. Its not a matter of what he does and doesn't deserve. Its what he's legally entitled to. Some of you have to be 12 yr yrs old not to see the difference.

@stevetiger said:
Who cares about the no new signings. All I care about is on field performances and I'll wait and see what happens next year.

I care. From what i've read a lot of others care as well. I think its funny you say you don't care, yet in the next breath say you only care about on field results, they go hand in hand. You will care next yr when we're running last. Geez you must be salivating looking at our squad for next yr. Who cares about new signings indeed.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
I really don't see it as being that bad. Anasta is a moron who hasn't been paid 3rd party payments. **Does he deserve anything for his time with us ? He was terrible**.

I've been seeing people write this over and over, and its gotta be one of the most juvenile things i've read. Its not a matter of what he does and doesn't deserve. Its what he's legally entitled to. Some of you have to be 12 yr yrs old not to see the difference.

I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
Who cares about the no new signings. All I care about is on field performances and I'll wait and see what happens next year.

I care. From what i've read a lot of others care as well. I think its funny you say you don't care, yet in the next breath say you only care about on field results, they go hand in hand. You will care next yr when we're running last. Geez you must be salivating looking at our squad for next yr. Who cares about new signings indeed.

I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.
 
@stevetiger said:
I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

Has it been confirmed that its a third party? Mayer said he had no clue, but that isn't surprising, he isn't exactly going to come out and admit they owe players money. How good is that going to look in trying to attract players down the track?
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@stevetiger said:
I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

**Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.**

It makes a significant difference. If we could have signed SKD and FPN, we would have had expectations for the 8\. As it stands, i think most people will be happy to finish between 9th and 13th
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

Has it been confirmed that its a third party? Mayer said he had no clue, but that isn't surprising, he isn't exactly going to come out and admit they owe players money. How good is that going to look in trying to attract players down the track?
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@stevetiger said:
I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

**Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.**

It makes a significant difference. If we could have signed SKD and FPN, we would have had expectations for the 8\. As it stands, i think most people will be happy to finish between 9th and 13th

Who cares about "expectations"?.

It's my firm belief that Jason Taylor has looked at footage of all our players in those 2 positions and decided that FPN and SKD are not worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than what we have. Both are hot and cold, exactly what we don't need. And I agree with him.

So my expectation is that we are just as good without those 2 and it now leaves us in a better position to buy someone who actually is worth it in a year or 2\. That being said, it also gives us an opportunity where possibly a youngster or two emerges saving us millions.

Happy Days.

Don't buy unless you get value for money.
 
@king sirro said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

Has it been confirmed that its a third party? Mayer said he had no clue, but that isn't surprising, he isn't exactly going to come out and admit they owe players money. How good is that going to look in trying to attract players down the track?
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@stevetiger said:
I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

**Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.**

It makes a significant difference. If we could have signed SKD and FPN, we would have had expectations for the 8\. As it stands, i think most people will be happy to finish between 9th and 13th

Who cares about "expectations"?.

It's my firm belief that Jason Taylor has looked at footage of all our players in those 2 positions and decided that FPN and SKD are not worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than what we have. Both are hot and cold, exactly what we don't need. And I agree with him.

]So my expectation is that we are just as good without those 2 and it now leaves us in a better position to buy someone who actually is worth it in a year or 2\. That being said, it also gives us an opportunity where possibly a youngster or two emerges saving us millions.

Happy Days.

Don't buy unless you get value for money.

I find that very hard to believe. SKD is better then any back we have.

I'm sure he would have had a pretty good idea what we were like before he got here, so why was he specific in saying we needed to strengthen 2 positions, then go one to release 2 players in one of those positions only 2 weeks later? I really don't think he would have changed his mind watching footage. I think he'd have had a pretty good idea of what our overall talent was like when he applied. What do you do when you apply for a job? You research your potential employer, so i think he knew what he was in for. If anything, he targeted a couple positions, then when he was actually handed the keys and was able to have a look at the books, he probably went into cardiac arrest.
 
@king sirro said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

Has it been confirmed that its a third party? Mayer said he had no clue, but that isn't surprising, he isn't exactly going to come out and admit they owe players money. How good is that going to look in trying to attract players down the track?
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@stevetiger said:
I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

**Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.**

It makes a significant difference. If we could have signed SKD and FPN, we would have had expectations for the 8\. As it stands, i think most people will be happy to finish between 9th and 13th

Who cares about "expectations"?.

**It's my firm belief that Jason Taylor has looked at footage of all our players in those 2 positions and decided that FPN and SKD are not worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than what we have.** Both are hot and cold, exactly what we don't need. And I agree with him.

So my expectation is that we are just as good without those 2 and it now leaves us in a better position to buy someone who actually is worth it in a year or 2\. That being said, it also gives us an opportunity where possibly a youngster or two emerges saving us millions.

Happy Days.

Don't buy unless you get value for money.

Thats a bit of a stretch considering they both rumoured signings, speculation etc etc we may have never even been in talks
 
Ink I'm not saying we could have got them. What I'm saying is that the opportunity was looked at and decided not worth it.

Maybe a stretch, maybe not.

But I find it hard to believe that Taylor didn't sit down, look at our roster, look at footage, look at our books and also look at FPN and SKD have been offered to other clubs., then, all things considered it wasn't worth pursuing.
 
@king sirro said:
Ink I'm not saying we could have got them. What I'm saying is that the opportunity was looked at and decided not worth it.

Maybe a stretch, maybe not.

But I find it hard to believe that Taylor didn't sit down, look at our roster, look at footage, look at our books and also look at FPN and SKD have been offered to other clubs., then, all things considered it wasn't worth pursuing.

Given our depth in the back row, id be prepared to call bs on not picking up FPN to add some strength and experience to the back row. As it stands we'll have 3 rookies in the back row who will get slaughtered
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@king sirro said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@stevetiger said:
I agree with you with regards to what he is legally entitled too. The point being though what we are legally entitled to pay him. If a 3rd party sponsor didn't pay him that is up to that party and Anasta to sort it out.

Has it been confirmed that its a third party? Mayer said he had no clue, but that isn't surprising, he isn't exactly going to come out and admit they owe players money. How good is that going to look in trying to attract players down the track?
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@stevetiger said:
I will care if we have a bad year but we've just had 2 in a row. I'm more inclined to wait and see how we go. Blair was a big name signing and he really wasn't that good for us. Taupau was a budget signing and he has been great.

**Its not as simple as get your signings and then you win games.**

It makes a significant difference. If we could have signed SKD and FPN, we would have had expectations for the 8\. As it stands, i think most people will be happy to finish between 9th and 13th

Who cares about "expectations"?.

It's my firm belief that Jason Taylor has looked at footage of all our players in those 2 positions and decided that FPN and SKD are not worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than what we have. Both are hot and cold, exactly what we don't need. And I agree with him.

]So my expectation is that we are just as good without those 2 and it now leaves us in a better position to buy someone who actually is worth it in a year or 2\. That being said, it also gives us an opportunity where possibly a youngster or two emerges saving us millions.

Happy Days.

Don't buy unless you get value for money.

I find that very hard to believe. SKD is better then any back we have.

I'm sure he would have had a pretty good idea what we were like before he got here, so why was he specific in saying we needed to strengthen 2 positions, then go one to release 2 players in one of those positions only 2 weeks later? I really don't think he would have changed his mind watching footage. I think he'd have had a pretty good idea of what our overall talent was like when he applied. What do you do when you apply for a job? You research your potential employer, so i think he knew what he was in for. If anything, he targeted a couple positions, then when he was actually handed the keys and was able to have a look at the books, he probably went into cardiac arrest.

I can quote Taylor on this when he first got the job… "I need to sit down and look at the playing list and footage and go room there".

So he definitely needed to familiarize himself with a lot of players that he didn't know much about throughout all 3 grades.

Now let's look at the positions he mentioned. He would not have known much about Asipeli Fine, Marion Seve, Watson Heleta and Jy Hytchcox. Also, Akaoula, Santi, Lawrence looking like a back rower, and Taupua's mobility.

Throw in the fact an outside guy would not realise how good Lodge, Ava and Sue can be.

Then he looks at what can be signed in those positions, FPN, SKD, Gerard Beale, Dane Neilson, Jason Bukuya and decides that either some arnt worth the extra money or they arnt even better than what we have.

I don't think that scenario is unrealistic.
 
I think i could buy that if he hadn't come out and said that they weren't signing anyone for 2 yrs. The juniors could come out next yr and bomb in the top grade, then where does that leave us? Fair enough if he just said for next yr, but he told us not to expect any signings for 2016 either. Very unusual for kids that are untried.
 
@alexaki said:
Never saw Blair smile like this when he was a WT!!.

http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/bennett-calls-for-transfer-windows-15800/

Will be watching his play and stats…. in 2015 with interest....

He scrubs up well, and has a cute cheesy smile, but i'm glad to see the back of him !
 
@king sirro said:
I haven't looked at who is on the market for 2016\. Is there anyone decent in the positions we need?

Centres

Kirisome Auva'a, Cheyse Blair, Beau Champion, Davin Crampton, Jordan Drew, John Folau, Mahe Fonua, Yaw Kiti Glymin, Aaron Gray, Nathan Green, Jeremy Hawkins, Hymel Hunt, Konrad Hurrell, Richard Kennar, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Ricky Leutele, Jacob Loko, Keith Lulia, Jake Mamo, Chanel Mata'utia, Pat Mata'utia, Sione Mata'utia, Steve Matai, Nathan Milone, Ryan Morgan, Ed Murphy, Dominique Peyroux, Joel Reddy, Travis Robinson, Tony Satini, Tim Simona, Chase Stanley, Setefano Taukafa, Brad Tighe

Second Row

John Asiata, Nelson Asofa-Solomon, Scott Bolton, Dean Britt, Lewis Brown, Jack Buchanan, Michael Chee-Kam, Adam Docker, Adam Elliott, David Fa'alogo, Marvin Filipo, Salesi Funaki, Paul Gallen, Alex Glenn, Fabian Goodall, Chris Grevsmuhl, Aidan Guerra, Chris Heighington, Justin Horo, Sebastine Ikahihifo, Jai Ingram, Tui Kamikamica, Jarrad Kennedy, Shaun Lane, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, Kyle Lovett, Ben Lowe, Ethan Lowe, Todd Lowrie, Sika Manu, Jake Marketo, Sione Masima, Willie Mason, Will Matthews, Shannan McPherson, Nate Myles, Clint Newton, Mark Nicholls, Kyle O'Donnell, Pat O'Hanlon, Pauli Pauli, Tyrone Peachey, Matt Prior, Ben Ridge, Lagi Setu, Jack Siejka, Korbin Sims, Jeremy Smith, Shaun Spence, Brad Takairangi, Tautalatasi Tasi, Jason Taumalolo, Zane Tetevano, Sam Thaiday, Kyle Turner, Joseph Ualesi

Read more: http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-league/players/off-contract-2015/by-position-2015/#ixzz3Jt82Z5yg

It's zero tackle so take of it what you will
 
How can you say "nothings changed" when we have a new coach, new assistants, new S&C personnel, new people in new positions that have never before existed at this club, we even have a new gym.

Yes we've only signed 2 new players and lost a few, but that doesn't mean we're the basket case we once were. Taylor and Mayer have stated they clearly have a plan squad/recruitment wise, so it would be pretty unfair to label them a basket case just because we don't agree with it. Give them a chance to prove themselves and implement their own stratagies and vision.

Anasta is just an attention seeking, media puppy who has a reputation of being a snitch at two clubs now. He is definitely entitled to whatever he was promised though . It could be a third party agreement or it could be what the club directly owes him, but the fact that Mayer has no knowledge of it, could mean it is a third party payment. Which again would be unjustified reasoning in still calling our club a basket case.

Professionalism is the new word around the club and I for one, can see a change in that regard. We have so much more to do before we become a well-oiled machine off the field but ALOT has changed since now and round 26 this season.

We have been a basket case over the last few years; however you can't say that nothing has changed. Just give them a chance.

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Nothings changed in the sense we're still a basket case. JT has made changes, but he doesn't run the club. The front office is still a rabble.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Nothings changed in the sense we're still a basket case. JT has made changes, but he doesn't run the club. The front office is still a rabble.

What makes you say that though ?

We've changed our gear supplier, we have Jerseys and gear on time before Christmas now, we have a new highly credentialed board, we're now moving away from wests vs balmain as a result, our membership staff have improved out of sight, we're using some innovative methods in our memebership drives and we look to be a more professional unit in most facets.

The only downfalls since the new board took over have been Anasta's accusations which are more than likely third party related (hence have nothing to do with the club) and our recruitment (which is apaprently all apart of a strategy and long term plan).

What other evidence since this season finished do you have to suggest "the front office is a rabble" ?

I tend to disagree with you and see us becoming more professional off-field. Hopefuly more professional onfield performaces follow..

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every club in the nrl is a basketcase at the front office imo.. fans of almost every club complain about their ineptness

so is the nrl as well
 
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