Adam Doueihi #227

[gregjm87]

Fair enough he might not have a position, but unlike Mbye whose in the same boat, AD is one of our only shining lights. He’s a hell of a footballer

I reckon giving Brooks the captaincy tonight did his head in..same as it did mine..and Brooks made us both right

If Doueihi is so mentally fragile that naming Brooks captain puts him off his game, he is not half the player that his fans think he is.

I mentioned it in the other thread but Madges coaching is very perplexing...

AD is captain material... a lot of people have mentioned this on the forum. He's a future captain for sure, a lot of leadership qualities. Our captain Tamou goes down and instead of doing the logical thing and naming AD.... he goes Brooks... a guy who's been playing well but appears to not have a voice on the field or be a captain.

One occasion when Stefano knocked it on, I saw Moses Mbye talking to the ref, going through the motions in regards to the captains challenge... where was Brooks?

This is another massive mistake and mishap by Madge.

Just like after losses we want accountability and instead of dropping players that deserve to be dropped..... such as... Talau , Mbye, Nofo, Jimmy Jet / Tamou, etc etc etc... he drops some one like Seyfarth or Cini.... undeserving. This is extremely poor form in my opinion and sets an extremely bad example.

There is no egg shells. Either the players have scared Madge into what may happen if he does his job or he likes them too much to upset them. Either way, it all is VERY UNPROFESSIONAL.

AD did have an off game tonight... it didn't register with me at first this may be because he wasn't made captain... that does make sense... I hope he is tougher than that.

There are a bunch of separate issues here.

AD may be captain material one day, but that does not mean he is now and it does not mean Brooks is not. Everything i have heard is that Brooks is a genuine leader at training. I'm not sure where the no voice on field comes from either. The few games i've been to he is among the most vocal of our players. He doesnt dish out sprays ala Gutherson the other night but he is constantly communicating to those around him. If anyone of the two is quiet it is Douehi as shown by his inability to communicate in defence. Anyways, i dont see how anyone who is selfish enough to question why someone else is captain and not them is captain material (not that i think Douehi has done this).

As for where was Brooks on that play I couldn't tell you, all i know is off screen. Who knows if Brooks was running in from 25m away, or getting instructions from a trainer or teammate about what to do or just MIA. It could be any explanation so we shouldn't be making a conclusion of any.

As for dropping the players listed. You can't drop them all and you cant drop them if the blokes below them are no better and haven't earnt their spot. For all the cries of put the young blokes in, it is just as likely that getting pumped every week will stunt the development of these young blokes as the first grade experience will help them. It is a risky move to play them and as i said especially if the coaching staff are of the opinion that they are not an improvement on what is already there,

I have been a big fan of Seyfarth (not so much Cini) but i don't think their demotions were completely undeserving. Seyfarth made some very poor defensive efforts in the few games leading up to his dropping. Where I can forgive Douehi bad defence somewhat (though if he cant improve it next season im not sure id persist with him), as it his actual defensive skills not his defensive effort that let him down Seyfarth's errors were effort related. Add to that he plays a similar role to Offahengaue and the coach just wanting to trial some others in the roster i can see why he has been dropped. Cini was only ever in the side as injury cover and had to perform brilliantly to be any chance to keep his spot. He did not.

We should also consider the role training efforts play in team selection. We as fans all want certain players promoted/demoted but we don't know who is putting in on the training paddock to earn their spot. Take Talau as an example. He might be the best trainer in the club (ive no idea). I would sooner he be chosen as his work ethic will see him become the better player over our other poor options, even if he is not quite there yet. It also provides a motivation for players to train better.

But this could all be nonsense as well. Madge could genuinely have no idea. None of us truly know. I don't however believe that any coach could reach the levels he has being unprofessional.

Anyways, back too my original point as i feel im rambling. Despite any of the above i don't see how Doueihi could possibly be put off his game by Brooks being captain and if he were it just shows Doueihi would not have been the right choice.

 

[TigerSJ]

AD, like many other players in this team, is inconsistent. Some games he has looked disinterested (more when at centre) and in other games he really wants the ball and takes them on with hunger and effort. When he's playing well he runs straighter and digs in to the line, at other times he's soft and runs across field (very slowly) killing the attack. His passing game works in conjunction with this - at best when he straightens up and commits the opposition to him.
His D can be very hesitant and lacks confidence - generally he is out of the defensive line, does not communicate, reads the play poorly and leaves holes around him.
His kicking game is average, although he can kick a good high ball, the rest of his kicking options are not so good.
As far as a quality NRL 5/8th goes, he is the best we have, and IMO with some good coaching and a lot more effort and experience, he could probably make a decent go of it.

 

[TrueTiger]

Very disappointed with tonight's effort.

But don't think its fair to kick the boot into Deouhi.

He's only 22, still has a lot to learn but obviously will be part of the solution and not the problem.

I think because of presence people forget how young he is. He's the same age as Daine Laurie, and everyone is understanding that Laurie is still growing and learning as a player.

I'll Take 10 ADs over 10 Mybes any day.

Good on you for that,however Brooks played much better when he had Mbye as a partner and coincidently AD did a far better job in the centres when Mbye fed him the ball...but then again most on here have an opinion and thats what really matters on social media...if you have a real understanding of the game,the perplexities of bringing in young inexperienced NRL wanna bees,the new rule changes,young guys getting a debut to see how they fair,fixing cap problems that have hindered us for years and a squad that wouldnt make the ESL finals with a head start....then maybe you can find an excuse that really matters...

 

[cktiger]

Fair enough he might not have a position, but unlike Mbye whose in the same boat, AD is one of our only shining lights. He’s a hell of a footballer

I reckon giving Brooks the captaincy tonight did his head in..same as it did mine..and Brooks made us both right

If Doueihi is so mentally fragile that naming Brooks captain puts him off his game, he is not half the player that his fans think he is.

I mentioned it in the other thread but Madges coaching is very perplexing...

AD is captain material... a lot of people have mentioned this on the forum. He's a future captain for sure, a lot of leadership qualities. Our captain Tamou goes down and instead of doing the logical thing and naming AD.... he goes Brooks... a guy who's been playing well but appears to not have a voice on the field or be a captain.

One occasion when Stefano knocked it on, I saw Moses Mbye talking to the ref, going through the motions in regards to the captains challenge... where was Brooks?

This is another massive mistake and mishap by Madge.

Just like after losses we want accountability and instead of dropping players that deserve to be dropped..... such as... Talau , Mbye, Nofo, Jimmy Jet / Tamou, etc etc etc... he drops some one like Seyfarth or Cini.... undeserving. This is extremely poor form in my opinion and sets an extremely bad example.

There is no egg shells. Either the players have scared Madge into what may happen if he does his job or he likes them too much to upset them. Either way, it all is VERY UNPROFESSIONAL.

AD did have an off game tonight... it didn't register with me at first this may be because he wasn't made captain... that does make sense... I hope he is tougher than that.

Do you realize what you just said??
What a great captain he would be if that happened.
If that is why he played terrible it actually justifies Madge not picking him would show immaturity & hardly a model for the other young guns to be modeled off.

He is a good player but he showed tonight regardless of his downer reasons he has work to do if he wants to be captain.

Just because someone on here wondered if he had his nose out of joint doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near true.
I feel sorry for the bloke trying to carry the team every week when half of them don’t seem to care.
Conversely, what a great captain Brooks turned out to be.
A real model for the young players…. not.

 

[sleeve]

AD has some talent, but grossley overated. Bring on Hastings at 5/8. As i said previously, teams will target him., Not enough speed for a 5/8.

 

[rihannafan1]

He was crud tonight. I love him as a player. I didn't think his defense was puss. That game shows why you'd play him in the centres.

Are you Pooper?

 

[JC99]

Is he coachable? God, I hope so.

I dare say he's one of the hardest workers at the club, always wanting to learn and develop his game. That's the difference between him and some other guys, he has his issues but he works his ass off to get better and he genuinely cares about this club.

 

[JC99]

Is he coachable? God, I hope so.

I dare say he's one of the hardest workers at the club, always wanting to learn and develop his game. That's the difference between him and some other guys, he has his issues but he works his ass off to get better and he genuinely cares about this club.

I don't see that. I watch him off the ball as much as with the ball and I think he's lazy and lacking urgency for much of the game.

Don't really see that, he's one of our most involved players in attack and defensively while he has issues, it's not coming from laziness he just doesn't understand his defensive positioning

He'll continue to get better for sure. He loves the club and hates seeing us lose I know that for a fact. Be stupid to give up on him this early into his career

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I have a high regard for Doueihi and believe he will emerge as one of our best players. I also believe representative football is not beyond him if he can improve his defence and awareness. Like all our roster, he would benefit from Sheens' knowledge and guidance.

 

[Bigscreentv]

Adam Deouehi is the reasonably attractive female teacher at an all-boys school that everyone thinks is 10/10 due to lack of other options.

I like Deouehi, but as mentioned, he often kills attack by stepping back inside. He's already quite good, but can improve heaps.

 

[BAGNF05]

Adam Deouehi is the reasonably attractive female teacher at an all-boys school that everyone thinks is 10/10 due to lack of other options.

I like Deouehi, but as mentioned, he often kills attack by stepping back inside. He's already quite good, but can improve heaps.

Needs a better haircut 😉

 

[tony soprano]

He should be worried about his position as he said he need wins in the he 6 jersey where does he go next he's failed at every back position next would be forwards

 

[tigertuff]

Has a lot to learn in the offseason.

Ball hog, unnecessary cut out passes and poor defence.

The number of times he killed attacking opportunities tonight by going himself or stepping back inside was terrible.

I understand why he was punted as 5/8 and honestly don't know what his position is.

Utility bench player.

 

[PJ_]

He's the best we've got. He's allowed an off night. Needs to work on his positional play and defence but brooksy did and now he's prob one of the best half-backs in D.
Needs a better coach and someone to mentor him.
Still too young for captaincy, we don't want to burden him with looking after this rabble as well. He'll grow into it

 

[Bigscreentv]

I think Deouehi is good, but he doesn't control the game. Neither does Brooks. It's tough to watch.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Fair enough he might not have a position, but unlike Mbye whose in the same boat, AD is one of our only shining lights. He’s a hell of a footballer

I reckon giving Brooks the captaincy tonight did his head in..same as it did mine..and Brooks made us both right

If Doueihi is so mentally fragile that naming Brooks captain puts him off his game, he is not half the player that his fans think he is.

I mentioned it in the other thread but Madges coaching is very perplexing...

AD is captain material... a lot of people have mentioned this on the forum. He's a future captain for sure, a lot of leadership qualities. Our captain Tamou goes down and instead of doing the logical thing and naming AD.... he goes Brooks... a guy who's been playing well but appears to not have a voice on the field or be a captain.

One occasion when Stefano knocked it on, I saw Moses Mbye talking to the ref, going through the motions in regards to the captains challenge... where was Brooks?

This is another massive mistake and mishap by Madge.

Just like after losses we want accountability and instead of dropping players that deserve to be dropped..... such as... Talau , Mbye, Nofo, Jimmy Jet / Tamou, etc etc etc... he drops some one like Seyfarth or Cini.... undeserving. This is extremely poor form in my opinion and sets an extremely bad example.

There is no egg shells. Either the players have scared Madge into what may happen if he does his job or he likes them too much to upset them. Either way, it all is VERY UNPROFESSIONAL.

AD did have an off game tonight... it didn't register with me at first this may be because he wasn't made captain... that does make sense... I hope he is tougher than that.

Do you realize what you just said??
What a great captain he would be if that happened.
If that is why he played terrible it actually justifies Madge not picking him would show immaturity & hardly a model for the other young guns to be modeled off.

He is a good player but he showed tonight regardless of his downer reasons he has work to do if he wants to be captain.

Just because someone on here wondered if he had his nose out of joint doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near true.
I feel sorry for the bloke trying to carry the team every week when half of them don’t seem to care.
Conversely, what a great captain Brooks turned out to be.
A real model for the young players…. not.

Brooks isn’t captain material anyone who has watched him over the years could see that.

 

[Harvey]

Is he the next Curtis Sironen?