Adam Doueihi #227

[jirskyr]

ET would be 180cm max and about 95kg. He also gives away more penalties than any other player. His time is up, I’m afraid.

Gosh so lazy, it would take you 2 minutes to do the proper research - 190 cm and 101 kg. ET is far bigger than you might think, that means he's almost 6'3".

Your research makes Luke Brooks about 6'1".

That photo ain't helping you, you do know what perspective is? Do you have one of them standing back to back with shoes off?

Anyway original point being (a) you could have looked up his stats and (b) is he really 180 cm because the interwebs says otherwise, anecdotal evidence aside.

 

[weststigers]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

 

[hobbo1]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

Speak for yourself lol

100% related to Doohey and Liddle

 

[Cairnstigers]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

Speak for yourself lol

100% related to Doohey and Liddle

I have to agree with Russell
I think given the opportunity Doueihi will kill it this year if he stays fit
Just a hunch but a good one I believe
His style reminds me of David Peachey
If he turns out as good Enough said

 

[hobbo1]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

Speak for yourself lol

100% related to Doohey and Liddle

I have to agree with Russell
I think given the opportunity Doueihi will kill it this year if he stays fit
Just a hunch but a good one I believe
His style reminds me of David Peachey
If he turns out as good Enough said

$500k for an ‘if’....I’ll pass thanks

 

[Russell]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

Speak for yourself lol

100% related to Doohey and Liddle

I have to agree with Russell
I think given the opportunity Doueihi will kill it this year if he stays fit
Just a hunch but a good one I believe
His style reminds me of David Peachey
If he turns out as good Enough said

$500k for an ‘if’....I’ll pass thanks

That's fine - respect your opinion.

 

[Russell]

Some are doubtful of Doueihis ability. But if we are going to invest in someone on a 500k price tag I’m glad it’s a 20 year old who hasn’t peaked yet. I can’t see us making the 8 with Thompson at fullback. He’s a winger and I’d pick him there every week.
He dropped way too many uncontested kicks last year and he seemed to have to dive way too many times to catch bombs that most other fullbacks would have found regulation.

Just to put the price tag into perspective. Ponga singed with the Knights on $600k.

Yes. Ponga had played less games, but he was an obvious talent - in saying that, the Knights took a punt.

Doueihi is way overpaid on $500k. He's not even close to what a Rookie Ponga would provide the team.

Madge is right to offer only $350k. He's got work to do before he's worth half a million bucks a year.

TBH, I don't want him at all, but if he comes, it needs to be at the right price.

I don't agree with your view at all. Doueihi is very talented and there is no dispute about that at all. Most in the Balmain Club would be well aware of this talent. Sure his current contract may be over valued but way overvalued? No way at all. Reynolds, Nofoaluma, Mybe are in exactly the same position for what they contribute to the team. We need talented and smart players in our team and he certainly is both.

It's well documented that Reynolds and Mbye are poor value for money. Noffa isn't overpaid imo, but I guess that's debatable depending on what side of the fence you sit.

All I've said is that at $500k, he's overpaid....You've illustrated the same sentiment in your post. Not sure where the disagreement is on his contract value?

If Madge is offering $350k and he's on $500k or $550k, he's being paid 130%-140% of his value to the team, so I would think that qualifies him as "way overpaid".

If you're suggesting we should overpay because some think he is a talent or potential, then I'd point you to his attacking stats...2 tries and 3 try assists in 30 games. Makes for some grim reading if you want him to be our first choice fullback.

Value for money ship sailed years ago for WTs. Nofaloama is not our first choice winger imo but his reported contract far exceeds that of CT and JAC. That is ridiculous!

AD brings the skills of a half plus size and good pace. If we want into the 8, AD and JAC are the types needed to get you there. AD played very well in the big games last year com ii Ng back from a serious knee injury.

1. How much do you think Nofoaluma is on?
2. Did you see Doueihi in the Raiders final?
3. Why has the value for money ship sailed?

1. Nof 450k. Jennings 400k. CT 200k. Then the likes of Mom + Talau on 150k

It's hard for us because we always pay overs because we're an unattractive club. It's fine to say we won't pay overs anymore but if you need up not signing the quality you're after then we're no better off.

We simply have to finish in the top 8 this season. Even if we limp our way in. Removing this image of being an unsuccessful and dull club is a priority.

AD will help us make the finals, but it's not worth screwing up our 2021 cap in the process. JAC will definitely help.

I can agree with this and my estimation was $450k for Nof too. That's not big money.

I'm all for JAC...he's a current NSW and Australian player and a proven performer...if you have to pay overs because we are supposedly unattractive, then I don't mind if it's for these types of players.

My issue with paying overs for potential is that people think the potential trajectory is linear and always upwards. He could just as easily, and more likely, not meet his potential. When that happens, the club is left holding the baby until his contract runs out.

As of today, Doueihi offers 2 tries and 3 try assists at NRL level in 30 games over 2 seasons with an ACL in between. I'm sorry, but I just can't cop $500k+ for that contribution.

You may think Nofaloama's contract is fine but ask his teammates on considerably less if they think so especially CT.

What's your beef with Nofoaluma? Do you believe he's overpaid?

As far as CT goes, I'm the first one to say that he plays well above his pay packet, but he was offered a contract and he signed it, so he must be ok with it. Again, great work by the club for getting a guy like Corey for $200k.

The more I read posts in this thread, it seems it's only you and Russell who believe Doueihi is worth the $500k+ he's asking. On top of that, you can't point to anything to justify the price tag other than he is young, has potential and can play multiple positions. If that qualifies you for half a mill, then I'll eat my hat.

I repeat...30 games, 2 tries, 3 try assists. Many of those matches he played in the halves, so it makes the stats look even worse.

His Canturbury Cup stats aren't much better...

Trust the Coach. We can get better for the money, and even you and Russell will be happy. This won't be the one that got away.

Doohey must have a few relatives on here
500k lololololol

Seems that way hobbo

What is wrong with you two?

According to you there are two of us that think AD is worth the asking price or that we are his relatives.

We are not allowed to express our thoughts and opinions - only you and Hobbo are allowed that luxury. Maybe we are only allowed to have a say if it is the same as yours.

Well it isn't - and on an open Forum we are allowed our say - hopefully without being ridiculed in the future.

Sorry Captain Sensitive :joy:

I would have expected that response and I got it. Thanks for the apology.

No one ridiculed you...until you played the victim card. I disagree with you and you disagree with me...Have your say as much as you want, but being an open forum, I can disagree with you as well.

My issue is that you haven't justified why Doueihi is worth the price tag. You haven't made your argument.

In MY opinion he is worth his price tag. is that ok with you.

From the games I have seen him play - I think as a spine player (either FB or 5/8) he is worth that amount. I don't really need to justify anything to you at all.

As for you both - saying we are relatives because we think he is good enough - that is just childish and totally beneath the both of you.

Use your arguments to say he is not worth the money - you did. I know I can disagree with you - you can do the same with me... all good but don't make childish little remarks it undermines the credibility that you built up on here.

It's ok Russell, hobbo and I don't actually think you're related...it was just a joke.

That aside, if it hit a nerve, I apologise.

I hope for your sake, we do sign him and he has an incredible season and I hope for my sake, we don't sign him and he has a terrible season and is sent out to pasture in Super League. Either way we'll both be happy :joy:

Thanks - we all want what is best for The Tigers - just a difference of opinion.

Hopefully it works out that we take the best option for us.

Decline - and hope he is a dud. Accept - and hope he kills it.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Tele reporting that AD has told Souffshe is leaving. Reports 3 "surprise" clubs emerge. Behind paywall so can't see more.

 

[nrlsurvivor]

Paul Crawley

Adam Doueihi has walked into South Sydney training at Redfern on Wednesday morning to tell his teammates he is leaving the NRL club.
It is still not known where Doueihi will be playing this season, however, The Daily Telegraph understands that several clubs are showing interest, with suggestions the Sydney Roosters, Canberra and potentially Melbourne are now in the mix.
Doueihi would be a suitable option for all three clubs given the current strengths and weaknesses of their respective rosters.

It is believed that Doueihi and his family have been less than impressed with the way the Tigers have baulked at paying the money the Rabbitohs wanted to secure his release.

Doueihi felt that there was no way he could keep playing at the Rabbitohs, given he had been told by coach Wayne Bennett that it was in his best interests to leave if he wanted to be a regular first-grade starting player.
The Tigers, who recently missed out on signing Latrell Mitchell, are now at risk of losing the race to sign another of rugby league’s rising stars, with strong mail that other options have emerged.
Doueihi has been a popular figure at the Rabbitohs for several years now, and showed what an outstanding prospect he is with his courageous performance in last year’s semi-final loss to the Canberra Raiders.
Doueihi has been extremely emotional in recent times after learning that his future at the Rabbitohs was uncertain. However, at Wednesday morning’s meeting with his teammates, there was plenty of support, as he is convinced he is making the right decision.

At 21, Doueihi is seen as a representative player of the future, who can comfortably play fullback, five-eighth or in the centres.
He has already represented minnows Lebanon at international level.
While Doueihi’s big chance of playing his preferred fullback position would be at the Tigers, several rivals have shown interest in him playing in the centres.

 

[tbones10]

Just got the Daily Telegraph update, absolutely sick and tired of this supposedly unbiased rag and hack reporter Crawley telling our club who to sign to help out other clubs who can't manage their salary cap (love your work Wayne Bennett).
I would love to have Adam at our club, but he is paid overs on present on form, we already have enough of them (no need to mention names),
Good for you Adam, suck it up Bunnies or contribute more.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Crawley is a grub

 

[05TIGZZ]

I just think this guy is worth the risk. He would be on our books for less then what Mbye, Reynolds, packer are earning. He is young, has played finals football and is just what we need. If this was all over $100k, then I reckon we’ve stuffed up here.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Paul Crawley

Thanks for posting this nrlsurvivor - As soon as I saw the name PC I knew the article was a total beat up on us. What a piece of work is that bum!

 

[JD Tiger]

Sounds like hes a certainty to go elsewhere if there's other clubs now interested. But the DT is of course as reliable as a franger with a hole in it, so who knows.

 

[Nelson]

I just think this guy is worth the risk. He would be on our books for less then what Mbye, Reynolds, packer are earning. He is young, has played finals football and is just what we need. If this was all over $100k, then I reckon we’ve stuffed up here.

It's a negotiation, don't see why we should capitulate entirely and give everyone else everything they want. He wants the chance to play fullback then he can sacrifice $50K a year. Souths want his overs contract off their books they can stump up for some of the overs. If we're showing the discipline to walk away from negotiations and not get walked over out of desperation for a signing then we're heading in the right direction. His contract is bad. Don't buy bad contracts.

 

[balmain boy]

Crawley couldn't be more of a moron. In a way he fits in at the Telecrap extremely well.

Canberra release Lulia to free up cap space to re-sign their talented players, Scott gets arrested = Raiders want Doueihi.
Roosters Smith gets injured = Roosters want Doueihi.
Storm have lost players = Storm want Doueihi

And all three clubs would consider him at centre when he sees himself at fullback - 5/8.

He criticises the Tigers for not wanting to pay souths debts via the back ended deal, yet he thinks other more professional and successful clubs will willingly and without question pay overs for the same kid?

Muppet.

 

[hammertime]

How can someone critisize another party for not offering enough cash?? Have you ever heard that before with a RL signing???

Crawley, you've got to be on the take...

 

[pawsandclaws1]

How can someone critisize another party for not offering enough cash?? Have you ever heard that before with a RL signing???

Crawley, you've got to be on the take...

Think about the motivation for the article and the way it is written.

 

[hammertime]

How can someone critisize another party for not offering enough cash?? Have you ever heard that before with a RL signing???

Crawley, you've got to be on the take...

Think about the motivation for the article and the way it is written.

100%. I think that there aren't any other decent offers on the table. The kid wants to play FB and he's looking at centre elsewhere.

Crawley is just Wayne's mouthpiece trying to get souths out of a hole.

 

[happy_tiger]

How can someone critisize another party for not offering enough cash?? Have you ever heard that before with a RL signing???

Crawley, you've got to be on the take...

Think about the motivation for the article and the way it is written.

100%. I think that there aren't any other decent offers on the table. The kid wants to play FB and he's looking at centre elsewhere.

Crawley is just Wayne's mouthpiece trying to get souths out of a hole.

The 15 clubs should get together and bury the "pride of the League" in their burrow