Alex Seyfarth #232

[Goldust]

Matt Gillet is a great example of a guy who played well above his weight

Lincoln Withers is the best example of that.

Haven’t heard that name in years
Ahh memories

 

[851]

Matt Gillet is a great example of a guy who played well above his weight

Geoff Toovey

 

[innsaneink]

Matt Gillet is a great example of a guy who played well above his weight

Lincoln Withers is the best example of that.

I thought of him reading this thread before I got to this post

 

[Tiger5150]

I don't get the fixation on player weights.

Physics.....If a 95kg player hits you at 30km/h, vs a 110kg player hitting you at 30km/h, you will understand "the fixation".

 

[jirskyr]

I don't get the fixation on player weights.

Physics.....If a 95kg player hits you at 30km/h, vs a 110kg player hitting you at 30km/h, you will understand "the fixation".

What nonsense. If the player was a homogenous rubber cube and you were a brick wall then yes, it's all about mass and velocity.

But people aren't built like this. For starters the weight is not evenly distributed over the body. Secondly, there are the individual physics of limbs and body parts. If a 110 kg player hits me at 30 km/h on his gonads or his skull, he's going to be the worse off.

Thirdly, point of collision matters, i.e. technique. Trevor Gillmeister had a playing weight of about 90 kg but used to kill blokes in defence, because that is about technique and not pure weight. Georgie Rose was often playing at over 120 kg, and decently effective at times, but was no hitman enforcer iron shoulders. And what was Georgie Rose's top speed anyway? 30 km/h is a 12-second 100m.

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I'd probably burst straight through it. But certainly don't throw a 110 kg brick at me.

 

[Geo]

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I’d probably burst straight through it. But certainly don’t throw a 110 kg brick at me.

I dunno if I had the choice of being hit by a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers..i'd probably choose neither..

 

[TheDaBoss]


 

[Deleted member 3518]

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I’d probably burst straight through it. But certainly don’t throw a 110 kg brick at me.

I dunno if I had the choice of being hit by a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers..i'd probably choose neither..

Wouldn’t it be the same ? Only the volume would change (how many feathers you’d need ) ? I get the density would be different buts it’s still getting hit by a tonne

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

how many feathers you’d need

You'd need a ton, I guess.

 

[JD Tiger]

how many feathers you’d need

You'd need a ton, I guess.

Yeah but the feathers would spread out as they fall to hit you, might smother you, but it wouldn't hurt.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

Laden, or unladen ?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Matt Gillet is a great example of a guy who played well above his weight

Lincoln Withers is the best example of that.

Hell yeah. Hit like a Mack truck for his size.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Victor Radley is probably best hitter in the game atm and he’s not 110

 

[Tigersmurf]

I don't get the fixation on player weights.

Physics.....If a 95kg player hits you at 30km/h, vs a 110kg player hitting you at 30km/h, you will understand "the fixation".

What nonsense. If the player was a homogenous rubber cube and you were a brick wall then yes, it's all about mass and velocity.

But people aren't built like this. For starters the weight is not evenly distributed over the body. Secondly, there are the individual physics of limbs and body parts. If a 110 kg player hits me at 30 km/h on his gonads or his skull, he's going to be the worse off.

Thirdly, point of collision matters, i.e. technique. Trevor Gillmeister had a playing weight of about 90 kg but used to kill blokes in defence, because that is about technique and not pure weight. Georgie Rose was often playing at over 120 kg, and decently effective at times, but was no hitman enforcer iron shoulders. And what was Georgie Rose's top speed anyway? 30 km/h is a 12-second 100m.

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I'd probably burst straight through it. But certainly don't throw a 110 kg brick at me.

Great post, except for the "flabby muscle" part, but I get where you were coming from. Muscle is muscle, it is not flabby.

 

[innsaneink]

how many feathers you’d need

You'd need a ton, I guess.

Yeah but the feathers would spread out as they fall to hit you, might smother you, but it wouldn't hurt.

But you'd likely get some feather in your nose and there's nothing worse than that

 

[happy_tiger]

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I’d probably burst straight through it. But certainly don’t throw a 110 kg brick at me.

I dunno if I had the choice of being hit by a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers..i'd probably choose neither..

Why don't we try both .....alphabetically brick first

And what ..we wouldn't take a player like Beetson or even a Paul Osbourne who can pop a pass or play at the line

 

[jirskyr]

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I’d probably burst straight through it. But certainly don’t throw a 110 kg brick at me.

I dunno if I had the choice of being hit by a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers..i'd probably choose neither..

It would take a long time for a tonne of feathers to pass by you. Unless someone compressed it into a ultra-compact ball.

 

[happy_tiger]

Lastly weight is not power. 110 kg pure exercised muscle is not the same as 110 kg of flabby muscle or 110 kg of lard. Imagine slamming into me at 30 km/h with 110kg of jelly, and I’d probably burst straight through it. But certainly don’t throw a 110 kg brick at me.

I dunno if I had the choice of being hit by a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers..i'd probably choose neither..

It would take a long time for a tonne of feathers to pass by you. Unless someone compressed it into a ultra-compact ball.

Won't matter ...we are doing the bricks 1st .....then the tar ...then the feathers ...problem solved anyway you look at it

 

[supercoach]

Victor Radley is probably best hitter in the game atm and he’s not 110

He is your prototype player for the new rules...also did okay under the old rules

 

[Strider]

He looks pretty skinny for a forward. I thought he was a 5/8th when I saw his video! Good luck to him on debut! Smash em