All good at the club says Chairman

[Needaname]

Not sure why the chairman is speaking on which players will stay or be let go.

I think it’s fair. His only commenting on the fact they have a contract. You don’t want him giving clubs a leg up by indicating that they will be available if they enquire. If any of our players or player managers wanted to negotiate their way out of the contract that should be at the cost of the other club or in the case of Woods needing a new home out of the Dogs a sacrifice to the player themselves.

He could just say "The football department manage the roster and I won't comment on player movements". He really digs himself into a hole with comments like this.

The club has again shot themselves in the foot by making Lee chairman. He's the major sponsor so it's now very difficult to oust him as chairman without risking losing Brydens as a sponsor.

No he doesn’t. Could you imagine the media if the chairman refused to answer anything.

It happens all the time. You just don’t hear about it because the media are not going to write a story if they have no quotes.

Haven’t heard much from Melbourne’s board members.

They don’t get asked.
Lee is in the media constantly as a promoter or sponsor of businesses connected to Brydons. He just needs to take his Fan hat off and put his business one on and say ‘privately’ not publicly to Vossy whom has him on every Wednesday; The segment is sport and law. Being chairman of the WT I will remain impartial in the media and comment generally on sport and law matters. I don’t need to offer up my personal or professional view / opinion about matters regarding the WT during this segment.

 

[TieDye]

The club has got the core group to grow this club says the Chairman! Pascoe / Maguire/Hartigan are all safe and will be at the club next season this is regardless of what any REVIEW DETERMINES!!!
No changes the club can stick there MEMBERSHIPS after 11 seasons of failure this is all the clubs got for its stake holders ?????? the place is a joke !


Pascoe / Maguire/Hartigan may all be safe but membership numbers may take a hit if the anger and disappointment shown by @Snake is commonly held by current members.

The club is in a bit of a mess at the moment with regards to recruitment and on field performances and I can understand people walking away disgusted after being constantly promised so much only to be dished up the same garbage year after year.

While I appreciate the Chairman's financial commitment and have no doubt about his passion for this club, I can understand people being upset by various comments made by him and his involvement in various contract negotiations that have either failed or have been perceived to be much too generous or unwarranted at the time.

Sounds a little bit... *unprofessional*

 

[Needaname]

I think the reality is, if anyone at Tigers comes out and makes public statements, some % of people are going to react negatively because the club isn’t doing well

The problem is we suck. Lot's of people think they know the answer but this is professional sport and it's impossible to give some easy solution.

We don't have a team that is talented enough to win consistently. Somehow we have to make that happen but it's not easy.

The problem is we’ve sucked for too long.
That’s the hardest part to swallow for most.

 

[yeahcaz]

How do I get to the same Lala land that Lee and Pascoe live in ? Bet it’s free of covid restrictions there too !

 

[jirskyr]

He’s basically said that regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security. That should never be the case, in any organisation. There has to be a line.

That isn't what he said though. That's your spin on it.

That is actually what he said.

Pascoe, Hartigan - safe.
Brooks will be here in 2022.

The only one he perhaps left a little wriggle room is with Madge whom we gave the standard he's got a contract till 2023 and we expect him to fulfil his obligations.

He didn't comment on the board because no one has the balls to, and he essentially is the board. We can't protest at Wests Ashfield to get the board out, we'll need to organise a different sort of protest but not just a change petition. Not sure what works in this current climate.

Did he say, actual words "regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security"? Those are your words, not his.

Lee is on the board, he's the chariman. Going to call out the board he sits on?

 

[jirskyr]

Haven’t heard much from Melbourne’s board members.

Look up Matt Tripp, he's around enough (he's the Storm chairman). Luckily for Matt however nobody tries to pin him down on the Storm's bad performance.

 

[izotope]

From humble beginnings Lee began his career at Brydens Lawyers in 1988 after graduating from the University of Sydney with a Bachelor of Laws degree. Under the mentor ship and guidance of the founder of Brydens Lawyers, Mr Ian Bryden, Lee committed himself to the provision of the best possible legal advice and representation those clients in their pursuit of justice, fair compensation and the right outcome. Lee was made a Partner of Brydens Lawyers in 1994 and assumed the role of Principal in 2012 and continues to lead and grow the firm ensuring the highest level of professional service at all times to all clients.

During the course of his career Lee has been appointed an Arbitrator of the District Court of New South Wales and also represented the legal profession on the Injuries Advisory Committee of the Law Society for a number of years. Lee is recognised within the legal profession by his peers as a leading expert in the area of personal injury litigation.

 

[coivtny]

I think the reality is, if anyone at Tigers comes out and makes public statements, some % of people are going to react negatively because the club isn’t doing well

The problem is we suck. Lot's of people think they know the answer but this is professional sport and it's impossible to give some easy solution.

We don't have a team that is talented enough to win consistently. Somehow we have to make that happen but it's not easy.

The problem is we’ve sucked for too long.
That’s the hardest part to swallow for most.

What do you mean? Come on, spit it out.

 

[rihannafan1]

Some will say there is so much wrong, blow the place up and start again. I think we are 2 years into that process already.

I don't know of anywhere, any sporting franchise, any organisation etc that was so broken and has completely rebuilt and leads the pack within a single season.

I heard a comment on the radio this morning that said we have had the same management for the last 5-6 years and they are to blame. Really?

Just reading an old 2015 article. Jason Taylor, Rod Reddy, David Kidwell, CEO Grant Meyer/ Phil Moss. I mean, seriously, what could possibly go wrong with that lot? How much damage do you think was being done to WT back then? And we have had another coach come and gone since along with various other staff.

An organisation being rudderless and run into the ground that hard and for that long will not turn around in 5 minutes.

The results currently are not good enough and not what we want or expect, but the foundations are at least being done correctly for the first time since the merger!

I agree with you although do you think the current management group are the ones to lead us out of this?

Yes. Only time will tell if the board has the Kahunas to stick it out. But I think we are finally going in the right direction after 21 years.

Many will say we had it right in 2005, what went wrong? Face it people, I love the WT and the 2005, but a bigger upset and fluke you've never seen. No one, not even us suspected it. The stars aligned and that's it. I'm not at all complaining, but it's reality.

We are truly being rebuilt into a proper entity. Will this current coach, CEO etc take us to the promised land? I don't know, but they are making the right foundation building moves for now

Fair enough, they're definitely laying a more solid foundation than we've ever had.

 

[tony soprano]

From humble beginnings Lee began his career at Brydens Lawyers in 1988 after graduating from the University of Sydney with a Bachelor of Laws degree. Under the mentor ship and guidance of the founder of Brydens Lawyers, Mr Ian Bryden, Lee committed himself to the provision of the best possible legal advice and representation those clients in their pursuit of justice, fair compensation and the right outcome. Lee was made a Partner of Brydens Lawyers in 1994 and assumed the role of Principal in 2012 and continues to lead and grow the firm ensuring the highest level of professional service at all times to all clients.

During the course of his career Lee has been appointed an Arbitrator of the District Court of New South Wales and also represented the legal profession on the Injuries Advisory Committee of the Law Society for a number of years. Lee is recognised within the legal profession by his peers as a leading expert in the area of personal injury litigation.

So he's an ambulance chaser sorry principal ambulance chaser

 

[SeanT]

Are they doing an internal review? How can they justify that when the results are continuously unimproved. Pascoe has been there for 5+ years now.

If we keep the same players and all the hierarchy then I hope people don't buy new memberships because there is no accountibility at all. Boys club like Parramatta.

I'm sorry for the PR workers though. We all have had a gutful of these P.R articles sprighting how player A is going to do this and that, yet does bugger all when it comes to it. Cancel all the P.R articles. I'm not reading them anymore

 

[Needaname]

I think the reality is, if anyone at Tigers comes out and makes public statements, some % of people are going to react negatively because the club isn’t doing well

The problem is we suck. Lot's of people think they know the answer but this is professional sport and it's impossible to give some easy solution.

We don't have a team that is talented enough to win consistently. Somehow we have to make that happen but it's not easy.

The problem is we’ve sucked for too long.
That’s the hardest part to swallow for most.

What do you mean? Come on, spit it out.

It’s obvious isn’t it? We have sucked for a decade. People (fans, some media) want change. And they’re too impatient to wait for the natural course of things to occur and want change immediately.

 

[wonka]

They are like politicians talking crap to save their jobs, the only problem is we cant vote the wonkas out.
10 years of failure and we are just starting the rebuild.
We must have the worst management of all NRL clubs, sell the club to someone that knows what they're doing.

 

[Merlot]

never rated Lee Hap,but just read on NRL U supposedly what he said,sounds like push those all loyal 2 their limits,all as 1,1 for all

 

[tigertuff]

Are they doing an internal review? How can they justify that when the results are continuously unimproved. Pascoe has been there for 5+ years now.

If we keep the same players and all the hierarchy then I hope people don't buy new memberships because there is no accountibility at all. Boys club like Parramatta.

I'm sorry for the PR workers though. We all have had a gutful of these P.R articles sprighting how player A is going to do this and that, yet does bugger all when it comes to it. Cancel all the P.R articles. I'm not reading them anymore

Our captain is the king of talk mate. A fish rots from the head.

 

[PJ_]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

What does the unlimited funds achieve though GNR and what does that get spent on to turn us around? Are you referring to brown paper bags or something legitimate?

A millionaire would open up lots of third party deals we currently don’t have access to.

Right got ya.
This is where you would think the relationship with Meriton could work better. Perhaps rather than just asking for money from Harry, Pascoe could ask for meetings with key suppliers of Meritons to see if some 3rd party deals could be struck. I’m sure this avenue has already been explored but if not hopefully it will be soon

We just know Pascoe would balls it up

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He’s basically said that regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security. That should never be the case, in any organisation. There has to be a line.

That isn't what he said though. That's your spin on it.

That is actually what he said.

Pascoe, Hartigan - safe.
Brooks will be here in 2022.

The only one he perhaps left a little wriggle room is with Madge whom we gave the standard he's got a contract till 2023 and we expect him to fulfil his obligations.

He didn't comment on the board because no one has the balls to, and he essentially is the board. We can't protest at Wests Ashfield to get the board out, we'll need to organise a different sort of protest but not just a change petition. Not sure what works in this current climate.

What is happening behind the scenes is most important. Actions speak louder than words. Bringing Sheens in to do a review is a positive decision. I believe Sheens will come to make a positive difference. I am comforted by the knowledge Sheens as a coach is the antithesis of Maguire.

 

[TigerWest]

He’s basically said that regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security. That should never be the case, in any organisation. There has to be a line.

That isn't what he said though. That's your spin on it.

That is actually what he said.

Pascoe, Hartigan - safe.
Brooks will be here in 2022.

The only one he perhaps left a little wriggle room is with Madge whom we gave the standard he's got a contract till 2023 and we expect him to fulfil his obligations.

He didn't comment on the board because no one has the balls to, and he essentially is the board. We can't protest at Wests Ashfield to get the board out, we'll need to organise a different sort of protest but not just a change petition. Not sure what works in this current climate.

What is happening behind the scenes is most important. Actions speak louder than words. Bringing Sheens in to do a review is a positive decision. I believe Sheens will come to make a positive difference. I am comforted by the knowledge Sheens as a coach is the antithesis of Maguire.

Sheens is not and won't be the coach.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He’s basically said that regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security. That should never be the case, in any organisation. There has to be a line.

That isn't what he said though. That's your spin on it.

That is actually what he said.

Pascoe, Hartigan - safe.
Brooks will be here in 2022.

The only one he perhaps left a little wriggle room is with Madge whom we gave the standard he's got a contract till 2023 and we expect him to fulfil his obligations.

He didn't comment on the board because no one has the balls to, and he essentially is the board. We can't protest at Wests Ashfield to get the board out, we'll need to organise a different sort of protest but not just a change petition. Not sure what works in this current climate.

What is happening behind the scenes is most important. Actions speak louder than words. Bringing Sheens in to do a review is a positive decision. I believe Sheens will come to make a positive difference. I am comforted by the knowledge Sheens as a coach is the antithesis of Maguire.

Sheens is not and won't be the coach.

Where did I write he was going to be the coach? If you are going to get all sensitive and bent out of shape, please read what I have written.

 

[avocadoontoast]

He’s basically said that regardless of how poorly key staff members perform they are guaranteed job security. That should never be the case, in any organisation. There has to be a line.

That isn't what he said though. That's your spin on it.

That is actually what he said.

Pascoe, Hartigan - safe.
Brooks will be here in 2022.

The only one he perhaps left a little wriggle room is with Madge whom we gave the standard he's got a contract till 2023 and we expect him to fulfil his obligations.

He didn't comment on the board because no one has the balls to, and he essentially is the board. We can't protest at Wests Ashfield to get the board out, we'll need to organise a different sort of protest but not just a change petition. Not sure what works in this current climate.

What is happening behind the scenes is most important. Actions speak louder than words. Bringing Sheens in to do a review is a positive decision. I believe Sheens will come to make a positive difference. I am comforted by the knowledge Sheens as a coach is the antithesis of Maguire.

Sheens is not and won't be the coach.

Agree 100%. But he’ll be an excellent coaching director to someone like Ciraldo or Gardiner.