All good at the club says Chairman

[Snake]

In all honesty about time someone from leadership actually is saying we are in a rebuild and have to do it the right way. It’s the reason they signed Sheens, extended Madge, bought a heap of young players, built a coe. Smart fans have worked it out but they would buy themselves time for brand damage by continually saying we are going to be a finals team.

Guaranteeing positions before a review is poor practice though.

So why employ Sheens ! from today the REVIEW means nothing moving forward .. the appointment of Sheens was seen by most as a great move forward as of today he is a lame duck and all stack holders have again been treated as fools !

 

[Wounded_magpie]

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Wests Tigers have categorically guaranteed under fire coach Michael Maguire, chief executive Justin Pascoe and star halfback Luke Brooks will all be at the club next season — and that is regardless of what any post-season review determines.

Yet that did not stop Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis also conceding “there’s no point avoiding” the public perception that they are a club on the nose after missing out on the finals for the 10th straight season.

This comes in the wake of revelations over the weekend that Bulldogs enforcer Luke Thompson was the latest high profile player to reportedly turn his back on the Tigers’ advances.

Other big names including Latrell Mitchell, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, Dale Finucane and Tevita Pangai have previously snubbed the Tigers.

The Tigers still have north of $1 million in salary cap space to spend for next season but are fast running out of in demand and off contract players to spend it on.

Asked how you turn around this image issue, Hagipantelis conceded: “Firstly, I think you should acknowledge that is the reality.

“There’s no point avoiding it.

“We have not been in the finals since 2011.

“We haven’t challenged for a premiership really since 2005. That is the reality.

“There is a perception that we have to acknowledge, I don’t think it is necessarily right.

“But it a perception and people’s perception is their reality, of course.

“But we believe that we have a core group of people at executive level, at coaching level and in the roster that will take this club forward.

“I think we have to be very strategic with our planning.

“Me, personally, I am not a fan of paying overs to try and attract players to the club.

“I am more than happy to pay players what they are worth.”

But the problem is that regardless of what the Tigers are prepared to offer they just can’t seem to seal the deal.

And missing the play-offs again, it isn’t going to help.

With their season on the line on Saturday, they capitulated against Cronulla, going down 50-20.

It makes you wonder how too much will change next season if the changes don’t come from the top down.

Though Hagipantelis was direct when backing Maguire and Pascoe along with recruitment chief Adam Hartigan.

“I think we have the core group necessary to grow this club,” he said.

Asked directly if that means Maguire’s job is safe, he said: “Madge has got a two-year contract with the club and we expect that contract to be fulfilled.”

Asked if Pascoe was safe, he responded: “Absolutely.”

The same went with Hartigan: “Safe.”

Former four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens will be returning to provide advice and support.

“It has to be a long game,” he said in respect to building from the ground up.

“Otherwise the risk is just throwing money at the problem and I don’t think that is a solution.”

What many believe has also become evident during the Fox Sports documentary Wild Wests: Tales from Tiger Town, is the lack of leadership among the playing group.

Adam Doueihi appears to be the only player who consistently speaks up.

Hagipantelis is confident it as not as major an issue as some would think: “I take that on-board but I think you have to be careful (in respect to what makes it on air and what ends up in the editing cut).

“I think there are enough voices.”

And he also backed Brooks, saying he was not being shopped to rivals and would be at the club next season.

“Yes, he will,’ Hagipantelis said.

“There was no offer to give Luke Brooks up and Luke Brooks will be at the Tigers in 2022 and beyond.”

 

[earl]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

We need to cheat. That is the only solution I see at this time. You can build the way we are - i.e.moneyball and targeting gun juniors but while ever you are playing by the rules it's going to be hard.

 

[Tiger Woods]

When the chairman says everything’s all good it usually means that there’s a lot of drama going on behind closed doors
He said he doesn’t like using the guarantee word which means a few players & staff will not be at the club next year or will be in reserve grade

 

[Joel Helmes]

Definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

When the chairman says everything’s all good it usually means that there’s a lot of drama going on behind closed doors
He said he doesn’t like using the guarantee word which means a few players & staff will not be at the club next year or will be in reserve grade

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-to-hold-crisis-meetings-after-horror-start-reports/news-story/0d5fba1400cb

He did say Brooks would be here for the next two years.

 

[GCfan]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

What does the unlimited funds achieve though GNR and what does that get spent on to turn us around? Are you referring to brown paper bags or something legitimate?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

What does the unlimited funds achieve though GNR and what does that get spent on to turn us around? Are you referring to brown paper bags or something legitimate?

A millionaire would open up lots of third party deals we currently don’t have access to.

 

[weststigerman]

Not sure why the chairman is speaking on which players will stay or be let go.

 

[Guest]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

What does the unlimited funds achieve though GNR and what does that get spent on to turn us around? Are you referring to brown paper bags or something legitimate?

A millionaire would open up lots of third party deals we currently don’t have access to.

A millionaire?
Everyone that owns a house in Sydney is a millionaire.
Is that you Austin Powers?

 

[Needaname]

Not sure why the chairman is speaking on which players will stay or be let go.

I think it’s fair. His only commenting on the fact they have a contract. You don’t want him giving clubs a leg up by indicating that they will be available if they enquire. If any of our players or player managers wanted to negotiate their way out of the contract that should be at the cost of the other club or in the case of Woods needing a new home out of the Dogs a sacrifice to the player themselves.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Not sure why the chairman is speaking on which players will stay or be let go.

Because he's an egomaniac that loves the sound of his own voice

 

[Wildcat777]

I am sure we will changes in the front office before kickoff2022. Is truly needed if we want to move forward in the right direction. Dont know who or when! But is a must!

 

[coivtny]

Originally I though this bloke would be a good choice as Chairman. But, everything I've seen and heard since he came on board, screams that he is out of his depth in this role. It's weird because his credentials in business as head of Brydens would suggest he'd be good in the role.

 

[Joel Helmes]

Originally I though this bloke would be a good choice as Chairman. But, everything I've seen and heard since he came on board, screams that he is out of his depth in this role. It's weird because his credentials in business as head of Brydens would suggest he'd be good in the role.

I agree, very underwhelmed. He should be coming out reassuring fans that what had happened isn’t acceptable moving forward and steps are being taken to improve performance and results.

 

[Wounded_magpie]

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NRL 2021: Tigers face up to unfortunate reality as Michael Maguire, Luke Brooks get guarantees

Paul Crawley
and
Martin Gabor
10 min read
August 22, 2021 - 2:45PM



Wests Tigers have categorically guaranteed under fire coach Michael Maguire, chief executive Justin Pascoe and star halfback Luke Brooks will all be at the club next season — and that is regardless of what any post-season review determines.

Yet that did not stop Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis also conceding “there’s no point avoiding” the public perception that they are a club on the nose after missing out on the finals for the 10th straight season.

This comes in the wake of revelations over the weekend that Bulldogs enforcer Luke Thompson was the latest high profile player to reportedly turn his back on the Tigers’ advances.

Other big names including Latrell Mitchell, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, Dale Finucane and Tevita Pangai have previously snubbed the Tigers.

The Tigers still have north of $1 million in salary cap space to spend for next season but are fast running out of in demand and off contract players to spend it on.

Asked how you turn around this image issue, Hagipantelis conceded: “Firstly, I think you should acknowledge that is the reality.

“There’s no point avoiding it.

“We have not been in the finals since 2011.

“We haven’t challenged for a premiership really since 2005. That is the reality.

“There is a perception that we have to acknowledge, I don’t think it is necessarily right.

“But it a perception and people’s perception is their reality, of course.

“But we believe that we have a core group of people at executive level, at coaching level and in the roster that will take this club forward.

“I think we have to be very strategic with our planning.

“Me, personally, I am not a fan of paying overs to try and attract players to the club.

“I am more than happy to pay players what they are worth.”

But the problem is that regardless of what the Tigers are prepared to offer they just can’t seem to seal the deal.

And missing the play-offs again, it isn’t going to help.

With their season on the line on Saturday, they capitulated against Cronulla, going down 50-20.

It makes you wonder how too much will change next season if the changes don’t come from the top down.

Though Hagipantelis was direct when backing Maguire and Pascoe along with recruitment chief Adam Hartigan.

“I think we have the core group necessary to grow this club,” he said.

Asked directly if that means Maguire’s job is safe, he said: “Madge has got a two-year contract with the club and we expect that contract to be fulfilled.”

Asked if Pascoe was safe, he responded: “Absolutely.”

The same went with Hartigan: “Safe.”

Former four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens will be returning to provide advice and support.

“It has to be a long game,” he said in respect to building from the ground up.

“Otherwise the risk is just throwing money at the problem and I don’t think that is a solution.”

What many believe has also become evident during the Fox Sports documentary Wild Wests: Tales from Tiger Town, is the lack of leadership among the playing group.

Adam Doueihi appears to be the only player who consistently speaks up.

Hagipantelis is confident it as not as major an issue as some would think: “I take that on-board but I think you have to be careful (in respect to what makes it on air and what ends up in the editing cut).

“I think there are enough voices.”

And he also backed Brooks, saying he was not being shopped to rivals and would be at the club next season.

“Yes, he will,’ Hagipantelis said.

“There was no offer to give Luke Brooks up and Luke Brooks will be at the Tigers in 2022 and beyond.”

 

[GCfan]

Short term pain, long term gain.
Our short term has been 10 years.
We better be top 4 for 30 years.
After all this patience, if we are rebuilding in 5 years time, we will burn this place to the ground.

It's more like we have to accept we are a dud club. Changing it isn't easy. You can't just sack the coach and then everything is good. It doesn't work that way.

You need to keep looking to improve but the only way out of this is having a quality roster backed up by a quality coach. We might have a quality coach now. I don't know. We don't have a quality roster.

The real question to me is how do we develop a quality roster.


Only one thing will save us and that’s a millionaire. Souths were an even bigger joke than us before Russel Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court came along. Within 3 or 4 years they were attracting quality players and were premiership contenders, and have been almost every year since. People will tell you about Harry, but Harry is the deadbeat dad of benefactors. All this talk about Laurie, Stefano and Blore turning the club around is amusing cos it’s not gonna happen. The club needs someone with a bottomless pocket, and we’d win a com within 5 years.

What does the unlimited funds achieve though GNR and what does that get spent on to turn us around? Are you referring to brown paper bags or something legitimate?

A millionaire would open up lots of third party deals we currently don’t have access to.

Right got ya.
This is where you would think the relationship with Meriton could work better. Perhaps rather than just asking for money from Harry, Pascoe could ask for meetings with key suppliers of Meritons to see if some 3rd party deals could be struck. I’m sure this avenue has already been explored but if not hopefully it will be soon

 

[Geo]

Well it's good that's settled..

 

[innsaneink]

Can't wait till next year's memberships go on sale.... Just itching to go around again 🙄🙄

 

[hobbo1]

Can't wait till next year's memberships go on sale.... Just itching to go around again 🙄🙄

You’re mad
Buy a slab instead