Aloiai

[Tiger19]

We can point our figures at the players as much as we want. The fact is that we've had several over the last few years that thought airing their dirty laundry in the media was fine... at best, that is a severe lack of respect for the club. That's even coming from Chris Lawerence.

There is something in our management structure that means we're not earning that respect. I've had a few conversations with Pascoe and from some tidbits, I can see why.

To provide some insight into what I've seen - I actually called the club to try to add them to my will recently. Wanted to give $100k. Justin was great and gave me a 1-on-1 call, walked me through the new COE video etc. but I still am yet to hear back from the club about which entity to put my money to (i.e. Foundation). This was 3-4 months ago.

Sure, it doesn't rank highly in terms of priorities, but it goes to the core of a real lack of urgency/professionalism that we're seeing here. I'm not going to donate now, and I can see why the players also feel this desire to pull away from the club.

Something in management needs to change. Is all this cost-cutting to remain profitable impacting our ability to respond quickly to important issues?

Agree, for a player like Lawrence and Aloiai who both come across as pretty respectable people to both express unhappiness with the clubs management in recruitment cooperation etc. I think there’s major, major issues.

Obviously the club can’t be held to ransom but I have reason to believe that Aloiai being disrespected by the 24 hour deadline holds some weight in his release request in this case.

The McIntyre fiasco if that is truly how it played it out is another story entirely.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

They can have Garner and Aloiai for Schuster and Sironen, wouldn't mind that

The problem is clubs not leading the NRL raid each others playing ranks.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Ok you dont want to wear our jersey again im fine with you wearing the Magpies one in CC.

 

[Nelson]

This is why this club is improving, yet many on here (possibly Rothfield with 20 different accounts) refuse to accept.

Lee Hagipantelis - “In my view he has a contract with the Wests Tigers which he will fulfil in 2021 unless I can leverage a commercial advantage for the club. The days of players, or others, thinking that they can use the Wests Tigers as a stepping stone are over.”

if that doesn't give you a semi, then you arent a WT supporter.

HAHAH this makes me laugh. Have heard it all before.

"Commercial advantage", imagine how you'd feel if you were Aloiai.

Ummm if I were Aloiai then I'd realise that what I am also trying to do is get a "commercial advantage"? Why should he be treated with any respect when he burns the club to try to make some extra cash?

 

[JC99]

Cleary something’s wrong with management is multiple players every year run to the media to make us look bad and push for releases. It happens to us more than ANYONE. We need to get rid of all the board and everyone else and start over

 

[BermiTiger]

I am sick of these players and their weak excuses. Josh has been here for 5 seasons now and apart from a solid rookie season and an ok 2020 (interrupted a bit with injury) he has be inconsistent and a lot of times lazy. I can remember in that video thing Ivan did at the start of 2018 and Josh was in it a bit complaining about the training etc. The fact is we have not made finals with him and if we want to we will need to get better players than him. Let him go this year if we can get something more than his contract bought out. Otherwise sit him down on the side line with the others not pulling their bloody weight.

 

[hsvjones]

We are the hardest club in the league to support. Can’t remember a year without drama can’t remember a year making finals it’s so crap so sick of it

Also notice we don't have players crying at their current clubs to be release early to join us Aka Matterson..... If only JAC could do this we would be in a good place now..

 

[Tiger5150]

Josh Aloiai has asked for a release claiming he’ll never wear our jersey again

https://t.co/fnU79FBRhE

So that’s what the stink was all about, getting an early release.

Truth is always in actions not words.

 

[JC99]

We are the hardest club in the league to support. Can’t remember a year without drama can’t remember a year making finals it’s so crap so sick of it

Also notice we don't have players crying at their current clubs to be release early to join us Aka Matterson..... If only JAC could do this we would be in a good place now..

Why would anyone want to join us lol

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Josh Aloiai has asked for a release claiming he’ll never wear our jersey again

https://t.co/fnU79FBRhE

So that’s what the stink was all about, getting an early release.

Schuster would be a good trade. I understand he has a family. If this is true, there is the right and wrong way of going about things. It seems WTs' signature of Tamou and Stefano has started a chain reaction.

I’d like say his manager is manipulating things to ensure Manly release Fonua-Blake to the Warriors. This smelt of player management manipulation from the start.

Yes. Smith gets two commissions, Josh gets his payday. Let's make Smith work for his cash by getting Schuster for WTs.

 

[hammertime]

We can point our figures at the players as much as we want. The fact is that we've had several over the last few years that thought airing their dirty laundry in the media was fine... at best, that is a severe lack of respect for the club. That's even coming from Chris Lawerence.

There is something in our management structure that means we're not earning that respect. I've had a few conversations with Pascoe and from some tidbits, I can see why.

To provide some insight into what I've seen - I actually called the club to try to add them to my will recently. Wanted to give $100k. Justin was great and gave me a 1-on-1 call, walked me through the new COE video etc. but I still am yet to hear back from the club about which entity to put my money to (i.e. Foundation). This was 3-4 months ago.

Sure, it doesn't rank highly in terms of priorities, but it goes to the core of a real lack of urgency/professionalism that we're seeing here. I'm not going to donate now, and I can see why the players also feel this desire to pull away from the club.

Something in management needs to change. Is all this cost-cutting to remain profitable impacting our ability to respond quickly to important issues?

Agree, for a player like Lawrence and Aloiai who both come across as pretty respectable people to both express unhappiness with the clubs management in recruitment cooperation etc. I think there’s major, major issues.

Obviously the club can’t be held to ransom but I have reason to believe that Aloiai being disrespected by the 24 hour deadline holds some weight in his release request in this case.

The McIntyre fiasco if that is truly how it played it out is another story entirely.

I think the glue that held us together for a decade was actually the passion from the guys from 05. The benji and Robbies. That was enough to have Moltz and Teddy walk away from other contracts. The issue is that those guys are gone now (in Benji's case, rejected) and it falls back on our management competency.

 

[Celtic_Tiger]

This is why this club is improving, yet many on here (possibly Rothfield with 20 different accounts) refuse to accept.

Lee Hagipantelis - “In my view he has a contract with the Wests Tigers which he will fulfil in 2021 unless I can leverage a commercial advantage for the club. The days of players, or others, thinking that they can use the Wests Tigers as a stepping stone are over.”

if that doesn't give you a semi, then you arent a WT supporter.

Sounds good but in reality Pascoe said the same thing last year about Matterson before holding the door open for him to leave.

I'd be interested to hear what would constitute a "commercial advantage" as well. For me it means getting a player, at least as good, for the same or less money. Is there any realistic chance of that?

Otherwise it's just soundbites.

 

[Don Kershane]

Relax-- "never wear the jersey again" could just mean he put on a lot of weight during Covid.

 

[avocadoontoast]

🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

What an offseason. It's like watching bold and the beautiful.

 

[WT2K]

We’ll come good when all the soft cocks are weeded out

Few more of them to get rid of it seems

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

This is why this club is improving, yet many on here (possibly Rothfield with 20 different accounts) refuse to accept.

Lee Hagipantelis - “In my view he has a contract with the Wests Tigers which he will fulfil in 2021 unless I can leverage a commercial advantage for the club. The days of players, or others, thinking that they can use the Wests Tigers as a stepping stone are over.”

if that doesn't give you a semi, then you arent a WT supporter.

HAHAH this makes me laugh. Have heard it all before.

"Commercial advantage", imagine how you'd feel if you were Aloiai.

If it's all indeed true and he wants to allegedly default on the contract, why would you feel anything for him?

 

[Speed2burn]

The club could have handled it better, but imo made the right call in the end. If we were to pay massive overs for every player that had 1 good year, we would be flat out even filling a top 30 squad

Just ask the dragons how they feel about Ben hunt

 

[JC99]

???????

What an offseason. It's like watching bold and the beautiful.

Except there’s no happy moments

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Lee Hagipantelis will be on SEN with Jimmy Smith after 2pm today to address this

 

[Telltails]

We can point our figures at the players as much as we want. The fact is that we've had several over the last few years that thought airing their dirty laundry in the media was fine... at best, that is a severe lack of respect for the club. That's even coming from Chris Lawerence.

There is something in our management structure that means we're not earning that respect. I've had a few conversations with Pascoe and from some tidbits, I can see why.

To provide some insight into what I've seen - I actually called the club to try to add them to my will recently. Wanted to give $100k+ as part of the foundation. Justin was great and gave me a 1-on-1 call, walked me through the new COE video etc. but I still am yet to hear back from the club about which entity to put my money to (i.e. Foundation). This was 3-4 months ago.

Sure, it doesn't rank highly in terms of priorities, but it goes to the core of a real lack of urgency/professionalism that we're seeing here. I'm not going to donate now, and I can see why the players also feel this desire to pull away from the club.

Something in management needs to change. Is all this cost-cutting to remain profitable impacting our ability to respond quickly to important issues?

This reeks of manager manipulation. AFB released by Manly and Josh A a big contract deal - same manager. Players are like pawns. They don't do any of the negotiating and rely on feedback from managers who manipulate the situation to their own advantage. Leak sympathy stories on public forums to get the fans up in arms and then the big announcement he wants out.
Don't blame Josh for taking the deal but the club needs to stand firm on this.