Another Quick Forum Update

@A Former User said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510509) said:
@kul said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510490) said:
Hi all, just a reminder that you can send your applications to kul@weststigersforum.com
Thankyou to those who have already sent an application, as well as those who have sent nominations too!

Also a heads up, the forum will be down for a day or two in December (exact date tbc)

Hi forumers,
Don't bother applying. I have sent PM's and Emails to Kul and received no action or replies whatsoever. As members of this forum I don't believe we are considered worthy of his time unless you are of use to him.
A word to the wise.

Thanks Tiger.
 
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.
 
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "Brooks is hopeless" in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.
 
@A Former User said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510509) said:
@kul said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510490) said:
Hi all, just a reminder that you can send your applications to kul@weststigersforum.com
Thankyou to those who have already sent an application, as well as those who have sent nominations too!

Also a heads up, the forum will be down for a day or two in December (exact date tbc)

Hi forumers,
Don't bother applying. I have sent PM's and Emails to Kul and received no action or replies whatsoever. As members of this forum I don't believe we are considered worthy of his time unless you are of use to him.
A word to the wise.

Sure....
 
@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "Brooks is hopeless" in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.



@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "**Brooks is hopeless"** in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.

Is that all??

That's outrageous and so hard to believe
 
@innsaneink said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510533) said:
@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "Brooks is hopeless" in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.



@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "**Brooks is hopeless"** in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.

Is that all??

That's outrageous and so hard to believe

It's 100% true.
I wouldn't have minded as much if it wasn't anonymous. It was vindictive in its length.
21 days was a conscious decision not automated.
The only two mods contributing that day in that thread was the two that were removed.
 
@A Former User said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510509) said:
@kul said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510490) said:
Hi all, just a reminder that you can send your applications to kul@weststigersforum.com
Thankyou to those who have already sent an application, as well as those who have sent nominations too!

Also a heads up, the forum will be down for a day or two in December (exact date tbc)

Hi forumers,
Don't bother applying. I have sent PM's and Emails to Kul and received no action or replies whatsoever. As members of this forum I don't believe we are considered worthy of his time unless you are of use to him.
A word to the wise.



Hmmm. Probably like the 100's of messages people have sent to Willok and the other bloke over the years asking about banning's with no reply.

See ya bud!
 
Hope all can ignore the slanderous comments towards @Kul

Of course he can't always respond straight away.
Who can?
Jobs, families, relationships...

It's time to move on....
The show must go on.
 
@innsaneink said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510553) said:
All sounds like a lot of bullshit to me

Former user... Yeh right

😂

I believe that was NT tiger.
Had his account removed.
@Cultured_Bogan confirmed.
 
@demps said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510555) said:
@innsaneink said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510553) said:
All sounds like a lot of bullshit to me

Former user... Yeh right

?

I believe that was NT tiger.
Had his account removed.
@Cultured_Bogan confirmed.

The only issue I can see with the mods on this forum is the over the top banning (not me). I thought your banning for a year or whatever it was is an example of heavy handed moderating.

Where do you draw the line though ? It's not easy.
 
@innsaneink said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510533) said:
@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "Brooks is hopeless" in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.



@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "**Brooks is hopeless"** in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.

Is that all??

That's outrageous and so hard to believe

I’m skeptical. More than likely, someone took exception to that comment, which began a back and forth, which then led to a ban. While the claim that that comment got him banned might not be totally untrue, it’s probably embellished. Willow himself called Brooks an imp not so long ago, so I doubt he banned anyone over one stand alone innocuous comment.
 
@gnr4life said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510560) said:
@innsaneink said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510533) said:
@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "Brooks is hopeless" in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.



@matchball said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510529) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510518) said:
Yeah it’s good but at the end of the day this is a forum and I don’t like the fact that comments get deleted and people get kicked off (myself included) for having an opinion. Don’t get me started on when I got kicked off by for saying I was happy Chris Lawrence was retiring.

Yeah I understand. It's the main reason I don't bother with the forum anymore.
I got 21 day ban for saying "**Brooks is hopeless"** in the game day thread after he made an error.
Can't speak ill of the favourite sons.

The bans or timeouts used to come with a warning or Pm from the moderator who took offence.
These bans now are anonymous and with no reason given.
Tells me that it's personal, not forum conduct.

Is that all??

That's outrageous and so hard to believe

I’m skeptical. More than likely, someone took exception to that comment, which began a back and forth, which then led to a ban. While the claim that that comment got him banned might not be totally untrue, it’s probably embellished. Willow himself called Brooks an imp not so long ago, so I doubt he banned anyone over one stand alone innocuous comment.

Impossible. Live game threads have no time for back and forth arguing. The game moves on.
You can check the live game thread from the 24th April 2021 when Manly clackered us 44-24.

I challenge Kul to prove this false. He would have the details at his disposal. I haven't been banned since it's the last ban I received.
 
Imo, yes the moderators went too far at times. I'm sure the guys were trying to moderate in good faith, but sometimes ended up pushing their own personal agendas/opinions. I think Willow did a good job in a lot of places, but he seemed to fit into this above mentioned category at times as well.

The biggest problem though, through which moderation was a small component, was the lack of respect throughout the forum. It's a forum, for posting opinions, and there at times it seems no matter what you post, someone will tell that no you're wrong, your opinion is wrong, and you're a fool for thinking it.

I am very doubtful that this will change in unceremoniously dumping some moderators, as they weren't the issue. I assume Willow was demoted for pushing an agenda which ultimately Kul didn't share, (though I suspect that was not communicated to Willow either before or after his demotion) though I never saw cochise or NTTiger do that.

But it is the sense of entitlement and lack of respect that is portrayed through posts that is responsible for the forum's state atm, and changing moderators will not fix that. Changing what is moderated, might. But only by making it crystal clear what is expected and what will be tolerated.
 
@magpies1963 said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510233) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Another Quick Forum Update](/post/1510121) said:
Haven't read the 50 pages in this thread but hopefully Merlot will be a big part of any future planning.


Thanks for the kind words @MAGPIES1963 you are a ray of sunshine.
 
It seems the ex mods. keep making divisive posts that only confirm that the decision to remove them was 100% correct.
We are one but we are many.
Lets move on.
 
I have to add that in all fairness the forum has moved on to be a more inclusive, relaxed place to post.
The sky didn't fall.
It's just the ghosts of Christmas past that keep popping their heads up.
 

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