Another Quick Forum Update

[Pascoes_barber]

I thought this thread was originally a gee up. I know nothing of these other forums and gang ups and stuff, and I cant believe that all this pettiness and sookiness has been festering just under the surface.

I am aghast (Ive always wanted to use that word).Seriously, I'm in shock.

Here's the inside scoop.
None of that "stuff" actually exists.

Some want to blame something for whatever reason... their friend getting demoted, etc.

It's all clear in Kuls post.
It's been a long time coming.

Frankly I’m surprised it didn’t happen much sooner; one of the first posts I read after signing up here was old willy airing a bunch of dirty laundry about @Kul and sour grapes about him travelling around Europe (as if that was somehow relevant.)

And to the people whining about this or who ‘don’t understand’: Just because you didn’t experience the excessive and overly personal moderation first hand doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening.

‘Two things can be true at once’ as a recently departed(?) member was so fond of saying.

I’ve never been banned from here BTW, before anyone suggests that this is the catalyst for my comments.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

 

[Viking Warrior]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

Yes mate volunteers

 

[Magpie_Magic]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

Yes mate volunteers

I think that leads to many of the problems from every perspective.

 

[Viking Warrior]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

Yes mate volunteers

I think that leads to many of the problems from every perspective.

How it works every where you go, if I'm a mod on reddit for eg I don't get paid.

People give up there own time in lots of organisations because they are passionate in what they do.

In all honesty I can't see how this forum generates a huge revenue stream especially when you have the expenses of servers etc we should all be happy we have a place we can discuss weststigers provided for us free of charge.

 

[hobbo1]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

Yes mate volunteers

I think that leads to many of the problems from every perspective.

How it works every where you go, if I'm a mod on reddit for eg I don't get paid.

People give up there own time in lots of organisations because they are passionate in what they do.

In all honesty I can't see how this forum generates a huge revenue stream especially when you have the expenses of servers etc we should all be happy we have a place we can discuss weststigers provided for us free of charge.

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[Kul]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

 

[cochise]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

If you are not making money from this site, then I will apologise for that comment..

 

[Kul]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

If you are not making money from this site, then I will apologise for that comment..

I won't take offence to you making an otherwise reasonable assumption. I've been upfront about this topic and I've no reason not to be.
I hope this has clarified your concern.

 

[WT2K]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

@compensate is one you could get a few ideas from. Runs one of/if not the biggest WT fan Instagram pages with almost 10k followers.

 

[Viking Warrior]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

@compensate is one you could get a few ideas from. Runs one of/if not the biggest WT fan Instagram pages with almost 10k followers.

Agree

 

[matchball]

We just need to get a semi finals football team together and the forum will be in the black.
Fairweather fans come out when we're winning.
10 years of failure and we've reached a ultimate low point on the field.

Hold the line Kul. Good days on the horizon.

#bringbackthedownvote

 

[PJ_]

New era for the forum, let's see what the changes are.

I don't really thinks so. Th

**We all should continue to demand respect of each other and remember that we all love the Wests Tigers.** (even though they have been disappointing for the most part of 15 years)

Why else would be be on this site during the off season.

Were all Nut Jobs TBH.

Unfortunately I think that anyone with an expectation of any semblance of respect on this forum will be disappointed.
Consider for a moment, the manner in which the owner of the forum dealt with unpaid volunteers (Moderators) working to assist him in managing his site.
Was respect shown?
He is setting the standard.
Enough said.

Unpaid?

Yes mate volunteers

I think that leads to many of the problems from every perspective.

How it works every where you go, if I'm a mod on reddit for eg I don't get paid.

People give up there own time in lots of organisations because they are passionate in what they do.

In all honesty I can't see how this forum generates a huge revenue stream especially when you have the expenses of servers etc we should all be happy we have a place we can discuss weststigers provided for us free of charge.

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Never knew you were a fan of Travolta...

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Speaking of US politics @Kul can you kill all the non football rubbish in this forum. It does nothing but add to the overall divide.

We are not here to be woke we are here to talk Wests Tigers

Not to argue ,what are you talking about ? I’m curious which threads you want scrapped ? Or is it all threads non tigers related ?

My "opinion" is that other than music threads and other types of sports nothing at all can be gained by allowing people to argue over political and other divisive topics. It does nothing but add to the division in the fanbase and serves zero purpose in a fan forum

I

It’s a forum ?!!!? As in gathering place .
I find it amusing that you had a big rant about how only certain opinions were tolerated by the mods , and it created an environment where people didn’t feel comfortable contributing ,yet you are all for getting rid of any content that you don’t agree with .
The hypocrisy is mind blowing to me .
It certainly does look like , it’s not the fact all opinions can’t be equal , but rather your opinions you want to be the ones that are taken the most seriously .

In my opinion it’s not a balance that is being advocated for here , but a complete tilting of the scales in the other direction . It’s funny you bring up politics as if it’s causing divisions , yet you can’t see the forest from the trees and your own biases and desire for an echo chamber . Maybe it’s being lost in translation , but through years of arguing with you , I don’t think so .

 

[The_Patriot]

Speaking of US politics @Kul can you kill all the non football rubbish in this forum. It does nothing but add to the overall divide.

We are not here to be woke we are here to talk Wests Tigers

Not to argue ,what are you talking about ? I’m curious which threads you want scrapped ? Or is it all threads non tigers related ?

My "opinion" is that other than music threads and other types of sports nothing at all can be gained by allowing people to argue over political and other divisive topics. It does nothing but add to the division in the fanbase and serves zero purpose in a fan forum

I

It’s a forum ?!!!? As in gathering place .
I find it amusing that you had a big rant about how only certain opinions were tolerated by the mods , and it created an environment where people didn’t feel comfortable contributing ,yet you are all for getting rid of any content that you don’t agree with .
The hypocrisy is mind blowing to me .
It certainly does look like , it’s not the fact all opinions can’t be equal , but rather your opinions you want to be the ones that are taken the most seriously .

In my opinion it’s not a balance that is being advocated for here , but a complete tilting of the scales in the other direction . It’s funny you bring up politics as if it’s causing divisions , yet you can’t see the forest from the trees and your own biases and desire for an echo chamber . Maybe it’s being lost in translation , but through years of arguing with you , I don’t think so .

Maybe it's text format confusing me but you seem really angry.

My issue was not the mods only allowing certain opinions. I never said that and that was definitely not what was happening.

I wont explain it all again as it was pretty clear what i was saying about mods and it also pretty clear what i was saying about the political pages causing further division.

Im all for you expressing your disappointment at Cochise being removed. Thats my point, you can have your say, its a valid opinion just dont be looking at guys like me thinking i had something to do with it lol.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

@Kul, you posted earlier about wanting "active participation and a collective consensus" on here.

It's a forum; the participation bit I understand.

But, striving for collective consensus of opinions seems a bit fanciful doesn't it? Or, are you referring to consensus among moderators on what meets forum guidelines in terms of appropriateness or not?

I think he’s more saying that people will be able to know the rules and limits and keep within those and help out posters that stray outside of those. So the community works together regardless of thoughts and opinions to set the standard of behaviour.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Speaking of US politics @Kul can you kill all the non football rubbish in this forum. It does nothing but add to the overall divide.

We are not here to be woke we are here to talk Wests Tigers

Not to argue ,what are you talking about ? I’m curious which threads you want scrapped ? Or is it all threads non tigers related ?

My "opinion" is that other than music threads and other types of sports nothing at all can be gained by allowing people to argue over political and other divisive topics. It does nothing but add to the division in the fanbase and serves zero purpose in a fan forum

I

It’s a forum ?!!!? As in gathering place .
I find it amusing that you had a big rant about how only certain opinions were tolerated by the mods , and it created an environment where people didn’t feel comfortable contributing ,yet you are all for getting rid of any content that you don’t agree with .
The hypocrisy is mind blowing to me .
It certainly does look like , it’s not the fact all opinions can’t be equal , but rather your opinions you want to be the ones that are taken the most seriously .

In my opinion it’s not a balance that is being advocated for here , but a complete tilting of the scales in the other direction . It’s funny you bring up politics as if it’s causing divisions , yet you can’t see the forest from the trees and your own biases and desire for an echo chamber . Maybe it’s being lost in translation , but through years of arguing with you , I don’t think so .

Maybe it's text format confusing me but you seem really angry.

My issue was not the mods only allowing certain opinions. I never said that and that was definitely not what was happening.

I wont explain it all again as it was pretty clear what i was saying about mods and it also pretty clear what i was saying about the political pages causing further division.

Im all for you expressing your disappointment at Cochise being removed. Thats my point, you can have your say, its a valid opinion just dont be looking at guys like me thinking i had something to do with it lol.

Speaking of US politics @Kul can you kill all the non football rubbish in this forum. It does nothing but add to the overall divide.

We are not here to be woke we are here to talk Wests Tigers

Not to argue ,what are you talking about ? I’m curious which threads you want scrapped ? Or is it all threads non tigers related ?

My "opinion" is that other than music threads and other types of sports nothing at all can be gained by allowing people to argue over political and other divisive topics. It does nothing but add to the division in the fanbase and serves zero purpose in a fan forum

I

It’s a forum ?!!!? As in gathering place .
I find it amusing that you had a big rant about how only certain opinions were tolerated by the mods , and it created an environment where people didn’t feel comfortable contributing ,yet you are all for getting rid of any content that you don’t agree with .
The hypocrisy is mind blowing to me .
It certainly does look like , it’s not the fact all opinions can’t be equal , but rather your opinions you want to be the ones that are taken the most seriously .

In my opinion it’s not a balance that is being advocated for here , but a complete tilting of the scales in the other direction . It’s funny you bring up politics as if it’s causing divisions , yet you can’t see the forest from the trees and your own biases and desire for an echo chamber . Maybe it’s being lost in translation , but through years of arguing with you , I don’t think so .

Maybe it's text format confusing me but you seem really angry.

My issue was not the mods only allowing certain opinions. I never said that and that was definitely not what was happening.

I wont explain it all again as it was pretty clear what i was saying about mods and it also pretty clear what i was saying about the political pages causing further division.

Im all for you expressing your disappointment at Cochise being removed. Thats my point, you can have your say, its a valid opinion just dont be looking at guys like me thinking i had something to do with it lol.

I’m not angry about anything . It’s interesting to me that if someone expresses themselves clearly and concisely on here , the first emotion that is associated with that is anger . I’ve stated it’s the way it’s ha does that I think is disrespectful, as for the action , I am not the person who had an issue with the moderation here , so I don’t really have an understanding of it. And nothing anyone has posted in this thread or previously has made me think that it’s not just a bubble version of the divisions in the broader community ie. no one really wants to bread bread , they want to be on top. Whether that’s right, left , wokism, anti vax. , Luke brooks (lol) , whatever it is .
And I call BS on people who claim to want equality when in actuality they just want to turn the snow globe on its head .
They want thier ideas whatever they are to reign supreme. .
That’s what’s I’m posting about . And I never blamed you . I think 2 people stirred this up . And the rest fell into line . But that’s neither here nor there . The mods should have been told
Privately and respectfully . And not had people dancing in thier grave. Whether your doing it or not . Is between you and the ether. I couldn’t care less .
Just don’t pretend your for impartiality, equality . Because it’s clearly not true .
That is all said pragmatically , and objectively . No anger at all.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Speaking of US politics @Kul can you kill all the non football rubbish in this forum. It does nothing but add to the overall divide.

We are not here to be woke we are here to talk Wests Tigers

Not to argue ,what are you talking about ? I’m curious which threads you want scrapped ? Or is it all threads non tigers related ?

My "opinion" is that other than music threads and other types of sports nothing at all can be gained by allowing people to argue over political and other divisive topics. It does nothing but add to the division in the fanbase and serves zero purpose in a fan forum

I

It’s a forum ?!!!? As in gathering place .
I find it amusing that you had a big rant about how only certain opinions were tolerated by the mods , and it created an environment where people didn’t feel comfortable contributing ,yet you are all for getting rid of any content that you don’t agree with .
The hypocrisy is mind blowing to me .
It certainly does look like , it’s not the fact all opinions can’t be equal , but rather your opinions you want to be the ones that are taken the most seriously .

In my opinion it’s not a balance that is being advocated for here , but a complete tilting of the scales in the other direction . It’s funny you bring up politics as if it’s causing divisions , yet you can’t see the forest from the trees and your own biases and desire for an echo chamber . Maybe it’s being lost in translation , but through years of arguing with you , I don’t think so .

Maybe it's text format confusing me but you seem really angry.

My issue was not the mods only allowing certain opinions. I never said that and that was definitely not what was happening.

I wont explain it all again as it was pretty clear what i was saying about mods and it also pretty clear what i was saying about the political pages causing further division.

Im all for you expressing your disappointment at Cochise being removed. Thats my point, you can have your say, its a valid opinion just dont be looking at guys like me thinking i had something to do with it lol.

I think your point about threads like the political thread has merit. Most of the time, that thread is a dumpster fire, and disagreements in there can bleed over to other parts of the forum. As the old saying goes, 2 things you should never discuss are religion and politics. Where I disagree is you claiming the 2 mods lost their job for being too political. It’s a trend that happens everywhere these days. If something happens that you don’t agree with, blame it on the person’s political leanings, even if politics has nothing to do with it and they haven’t even stated what their leanings are. It comes across as projection.

 

[Demps]

I've read a lot of these comments. It's good to see people passionate about this place; some good points have been made but I stand by the editorial decision that's been made. In response to these I have already invited Cochie to put his hand up again if he'd like to join the fresh new group.

Perhaps one of the themes in the comments in this thread has been on active participation and a collective consensus? It would seem appropriate that the new additions can help foster this culture?
Ideally it should get to a point where the entire community is able to self-moderate with minimal input required by mods. This would be the perfect world.

And in regards to revenue, as I've stated before, this place runs a yearly loss and always has. There are some busy months in the season that help balance out the off-season, yes, but across the year the balance is in the red and it's picked up by me and always has been. To be frank, with the rise of other platforms and social media trends, the site is half as busy as it used to be and that has certainly hit the bottom line! I'd invite anyone who can help change this to contact me because that would be fantastic!

@compensate is one you could get a few ideas from. Runs one of/if not the biggest WT fan Instagram pages with almost 10k followers.

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@compensate is a must.