Another terrorist attack in France

[Paris_Cobbs]

I just woke up to the news that there has been another terrorist attack in France, this time in Nice, one of the popular tourist spots. Someone has driven a lorry into the crowd watching a fire works display to celebrate Bastille Day, the national day. Over 80 people have been killed.

Nice is about an hour's drive from where we are, so we are unaffected again.

 

[happy_tiger]

I just woke up to the news that there has been another terrorist attack in France, this time in Nice, one of the popular tourist spots. Someone has driven a lorry into the crowd watching a fire works display to celebrate Bastille Day, the national day. Over 80 people have been killed.

Nice is about an hour's drive from where we are, so we are unaffected again.

Good to hear you are OK PC

Is it just me or does the massive security concerns are ignored by the French authorities on their biggest day of the year

How a truck of that size can even get that close to crowds without having to pass a single check point just astounds me

 

[fibrodreaming]

That's shocking news. I spent 3 months in Villefranche last year - less than 10 minutes by train from Nice. It's a beautiful part of the world, and I love the people. It saddens me deeply to hear about this.

 

[tiger_one]

I just woke up to the news that there has been another terrorist attack in France, this time in Nice, one of the popular tourist spots. Someone has driven a lorry into the crowd watching a fire works display to celebrate Bastille Day, the national day. Over 80 people have been killed.

Nice is about an hour's drive from where we are, so we are unaffected again.

Still take care, champion.

 

[westTAHger]

Deepest sympathies to all who have been affected by this.

 

[stryker]

The more this happens, the more obvious it is that we are powerless to stop repeat offences.

Feel very sorry for the French people. What's this, 4 big instances in the past couple of years? Just terrible.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Gutted for the French. Contrary to the stereotype the French are lovely people if you try to make an effort with them (i.e. don't expect them to speak English to you first up.)

I really enjoyed my time there and really want to go back.

 

[rialto]

I just woke up to the news that there has been another terrorist attack in France, this time in Nice, one of the popular tourist spots. Someone has driven a lorry into the crowd watching a fire works display to celebrate Bastille Day, the national day. Over 80 people have been killed.

Nice is about an hour's drive from where we are, so we are unaffected again.

Good to hear you are OK PC

Is it just me or does the massive security concerns are ignored by the French authorities on their biggest day of the year

How a truck of that size can even get that close to crowds without having to pass a single check point just astounds me

Re the truck HT same thought went through my mind too. However I think I heard on Tele the truck did crash through some barrier - obviously not enough. Very very sad for the people of France.

 

[Nelson]

I just woke up to the news that there has been another terrorist attack in France, this time in Nice, one of the popular tourist spots. Someone has driven a lorry into the crowd watching a fire works display to celebrate Bastille Day, the national day. Over 80 people have been killed.

Nice is about an hour's drive from where we are, so we are unaffected again.

Good to hear you are OK PC

Is it just me or does the massive security concerns are ignored by the French authorities on their biggest day of the year

How a truck of that size can even get that close to crowds without having to pass a single check point just astounds me

Crowds congregate in all sorts of places, there's only so much that can be done. This is also a new method of terrorist attack on a Western target. Sadly it's just not that hard for someone to kill a bunch of people if they really want to.

I hope the French can keep their spirits up in the face of all this. I've had some mates travel there recently and they've said that Paris already feels different.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Going back to Vietnam War days I wondered how a nation can bomb another nation and not expect payback on their own vulnerable citizens. These terrorists attacks are due to France being involved in bombing against ISIS. We may despise ISIS grossly but they are a result of Western policy failure in the invasion of Iraq and the Western powers drawing up the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WW1\. I never felt comfortable with so many nations bombing populated Syria and Iraq knowing that many ordinary citizens will be sure to be killed and infrastructure destroyed. Seemed completely wrong a George W Bush type of response.

 

[Abraham]

Going back to Vietnam War days I wondered how a nation can bomb another nation and not expect payback on their own vulnerable citizens. These terrorists attacks are due to France being involved in bombing against ISIS. We may despise ISIS grossly but they are a result of Western policy failure in the invasion of Iraq and the Western powers drawing up the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WW1\. I never felt comfortable with so many nations bombing populated Syria and Iraq knowing that many ordinary citizens will be sure to be killed and infrastructure destroyed. Seemed completely wrong a George W Bush type of response.

France opposed the invasion of Iraq. They did not participate.

As for ISIS, well quite clearly the international community cannot stand back and let a depraved group of terrorists rape and murder their way across two countries, committing genocide and all the while threatening the international community. France's role in this coalition was minimal until they were attacked last year.

The actual reason France was attacked is because they have a large and disaffected muslim community on their soil, who see the French people as infidel targets. The exact same reason that terrorist attacks have taken place in Brussels, the UK, US, Australia, and practically every country with a sizeable muslim population.

No need for in depth analysis when the answer stares you directly in the face.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Going back to Vietnam War days I wondered how a nation can bomb another nation and not expect payback on their own vulnerable citizens. These terrorists attacks are due to France being involved in bombing against ISIS. We may despise ISIS grossly but they are a result of Western policy failure in the invasion of Iraq and the Western powers drawing up the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WW1\. I never felt comfortable with so many nations bombing populated Syria and Iraq knowing that many ordinary citizens will be sure to be killed and infrastructure destroyed. Seemed completely wrong a George W Bush type of response.

France opposed the invasion of Iraq. They did not participate.

As for ISIS, well quite clearly the international community cannot stand back and let a depraved group of terrorists rape and murder their way across two countries, committing genocide and all the while threatening the international community. France's role in this coalition was minimal until they were attacked last year.

The actual reason France was attacked is because they have a large and disaffected muslim community on their soil, who see the French people as infidel targets. The exact same reason that terrorist attacks have taken place in Brussels, the UK, US, Australia, and practically every country with a sizeable muslim population.

No need for in depth analysis when the answer stares you directly in the face.

I am too busy to check out but I presume from my highlighted sentence that France were involved before being attacked - at a minimal was your qualification. I don't agree with your conclusion that any country with a Muslim population will be a target. UK, USA and Australia were all contributors to violence in the M/E over the past decade so of course they may be targets when they go in on dubious grounds and without United Nation permission. Control of oil was the ultimate goal.

The Sunnis were backed into a corner in Iraq so their mates across boundaries got involved. The situation was far from perfect before the Western invasions that left the area the worse ever with no endgame to recommend.

France was responsible for the deaths hundreds of thousands during the Algerian War of Independence. Funny/strange that after that war France took in tens of thousands of Algerian refugees who probably fought with them but now descendants of those refugees are now playing up. Seems like what goes round comes round.

The West would have been better staying out of the whole area going back to backing terrorists in Afghanistan decades ago - nothing turned out peaches and cream.

 

[tsjonathan]

Why isn't Israel or Saudi Arabia ever "attacked"?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Why isn't Israel or Saudi Arabia ever "attacked"?

Oil and mates of the USA - protected species both of them

 

[hammertime]

Going back to Vietnam War days I wondered how a nation can bomb another nation and not expect payback on their own vulnerable citizens. These terrorists attacks are due to France being involved in bombing against ISIS. We may despise ISIS grossly but they are a result of Western policy failure in the invasion of Iraq and the Western powers drawing up the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WW1\. I never felt comfortable with so many nations bombing populated Syria and Iraq knowing that many ordinary citizens will be sure to be killed and infrastructure destroyed. Seemed completely wrong a George W Bush type of response.

Sept 11 happened before the invasion of Iraq. While yes, ISIS was born with Iraq, muslim extremism was born well before that.

I'm really uncomfortable with the way Western civilisation is developing to try to look inward. We've maintained global stability for centuries and created most of the worlds advancements. We are not the bad guys.

As much as Iraq was a mistake, Suddam Hussein was a concern for the global community.

After becoming a new dad recently and seeing how many kids were killed in Nice. I'm onboard for stronger action, like immigration halts.

I don't want us attacking people who are australians now, everyone deserves freedom on speech and religion, but certainly put some stronger requirements on who will become Australians.

The Left wing has had their time in the sun and nations are paying for it.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Why isn't Israel or Saudi Arabia ever "attacked"?

Its all a cover up
ISL can only take glory to hurting non muslims otherwise it goes against what "they stand for"

Which infact is not any worthy cause..
Its a cover up to destroy the western world and blame it on Muslims

Like it came out and claimed to be behind what happened in France YET the rest of the world (or most of it) doesnt believe it as there is no proof.

They are just building street cred by taking ownership of people being killed either by them or by anyone else

 

[CocaCola]

Trevor Aaronson: How this FBI strategy is actually creating US-based terrorists

https://www.ted.com/talks/trevor_aaronson_how_this_fbi_strategy_is_actually_creating_us_based_terrorists?language=en#t-1574

The video focuses on the FBI involvement with entrapment.

I'm not suggesting agencies in Europe are involved in this kind of entrapment or creating a false flag attack (carrying out plots themselves & directing the blame on others), but rather I'm questioning the Intel they have & what they do with it. Given on previous terror plots, the cells involved were known to authorities and on the watch list. ie. Those involved with the stadium & theater attacks in France earlier in the year.

Is it possible that these cells & events are deliberately allowed to 'slip' through?

Europe is facing a huge demographic shift over the next 50 years. Islamophobia is at a high and the refugee influx into Europe isn't helping the problem. This could be a possible motive, excuses to go to war, loot resources, change foreign policies, cap immigration to a minimum are others.

Major crisis like these create public fear, it alters & sway public opinion on domestic & foreign policies.
Governments (US being one) have carried out false flag attacks in the past to achieve goals.
Allowing outside terrorist groups to carry out their plan on their soil could be another way to achieve the same result: "Out of chaos comes order".

Sad times unfortunately, I pray those suffering directly or indirectly from war, tyranny, poverty, sickness & terrorism overcome their grief & sorrow.

 

[tsjonathan]

Going back to Vietnam War days I wondered how a nation can bomb another nation and not expect payback on their own vulnerable citizens. These terrorists attacks are due to France being involved in bombing against ISIS. We may despise ISIS grossly but they are a result of Western policy failure in the invasion of Iraq and the Western powers drawing up the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WW1\. I never felt comfortable with so many nations bombing populated Syria and Iraq knowing that many ordinary citizens will be sure to be killed and infrastructure destroyed. Seemed completely wrong a George W Bush type of response.

Sept 11 happened before the invasion of Iraq. While yes, ISIS was born with Iraq, muslim extremism was born well before that.

I believe Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowey are also from Israel. Larry conveniently taking out insurance on the twin towers before it "collapsed". And all his family conveniently not showing up for work that day…From memory that guy got billions from the trade centres collapse.

If anyone knows of the recent 28 page report on 9/11 it's pretty interesting stuff.

 

[hammertime]

It's conspiracy theories like these that hold us back. Searching for anything to blame anyone but the people planting bombs or running people down with trucks. Do you seriously think ISIL are looking internally and thinking maybe they are the problem? That's why they have had success. Our democracy has grown weak because were actively trying to find to blame ourselves.

 

[tsjonathan]

It's conspiracy theories like these that hold us back. Searching for anything to blame anyone but the people planting bombs or running people down with trucks. Do you seriously think ISIL are looking internally and thinking maybe they are the problem? That's why they have had success. Our democracy has grown weak because were actively trying to find to blame ourselves.

Agreed, there is no way 2 towers just fall from the sky. So many engineers also saying it was impossible as well. I don't buy it either. Never in all human history have buildings fallen from somethnig hitting it