Are we a chance in 2022?

Madge had the bunnies firing, until the players realised their potential... Once he broke them, showed them who they could be, he lost them.

Our team, we had a mix of those who were willing to work to elevate, and those who rested on their laurels. Players that read the potential in the papers and believed their own hype. We had players excel, and others stagnate, old timers too set in their ways dogging it.

Im beginning, to feel we have enough new blood, enough players set out to impress, that the lowest life forms are no longer the majority. Im optomistic, probably a fools errand, but I feel that we have lost a fair chunk of quit, and as odd as it sounds, AD coming back mid season is another pump point of drive if we have a shakey start.

Wont call an 8 finish, but feel a better effort yr coming. Thats all I ask for.
 
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I don’t think we have a very strong squad to start with and if covid hits us hard we won’t win many at all.
 
We are a great chance to win the competition, as long as the other 15 teams all come down with COVID . Think we will fight it out for between 12 - 16
 
Teamwork is probably the most ingredient for a team. If the team gels together as a "Real Team", tackles with heart and supports each team mate and the coach then there is always a chance.
 
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There is nothing I seen last year to convince me that we will improve much. Our defence in the backs are still a shambles. Our ruck defence isn't much better but at least Stef and Twal are decent there.

Our attack is one dimentional as well as being unable to get repeat sets and put pressure on.

We are so far away from the top 4 it isn't funny. Hough having Papalli and Kourisoa next year will help us alot.

Need a few more decent players though. Especially centre.
 
I hope in 2022 we give 2023 players as much game time as possible. Players leaving us like LL Cool J are wasting spots in NRL. I think Maguire is on his last chance. I would like to see real improvement in each player the ladder position is not a concern as on paper the team is bottom 4. 2023 I see as top 8 potential with players joining us and current squad another year experienced.
 
I hope & wish.
But unfortunately the answer you seek is NO
I feel that our roster is weaker than last year’s
And moving forward to year 2023 we might make the top 10 if luck is on our side
We need to improve our roster big time to make any progress.
Just my thoughts🙂
 
It’s a tough ask with our current squad although I do believe we look slightly better than last year. The issue is that the top 6 teams aren’t going to change and once again the middle group of 5 - 6 teams will be battling hard for 2 spots in the 8. Of that group I think the Sharks will do better this season and possibly the Titans will be good as well. We must also beat the Warriors, Knights, Dragons and Bulldogs to have any chance. I think Broncs and Cows will be below us.
 
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We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023
 
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.
 
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@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520681) said:
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.


Assuming Tamou, Brooks and Nofo don't improve then it is Hastings vs AD (while injured) and Mbye as the new half, Gildart vs our makeshift centres and the Peach as a utility.

Not really upgrades, pretty much all unknown.

The biggest hope is that the younger guys lift with some experience although by and large they were not the problem in 21.

Not optimistic, but the biggest issue is effort. Some filthy performances last year. We need 3 or 4 blokes to have breakout years or we need to be better at hanging in there so that we can fluke some close wins when everyone has covid.
 
@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520681) said:
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.

I think the main problem is, while the roster was cleaned up somewhat, we didn't replace that deadwood with any real excitement, Hastings and Gildarts are big unknowns and Peachy could go either way.
In addition to this, Doueihi will be out for an extended period, our centre and spine depth issues have not been addressed, and many of the youngsters expected to take the next step last year were not able to.
There is always reason to be optimistic in the NRL as you never know what will happen, but if you look at it from a neutral perspective, it's hard to see where the improvement will come from in 2022. As they say; if you're not getting better in this league, you're getting worse.
 
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@adelaidetiger said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520683) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520681) said:
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.

I think the main problem is, while the roster was cleaned up somewhat, we didn't replace that deadwood with any real excitement, Hastings and Gildarts are big unknowns and Peachy could go either way.
In addition to this, Doueihi will be out for an extended period, our centre and spine depth issues have not been addressed, and many of the youngsters expected to take the next step last year were not able to.
There is always reason to be optimistic in the NRL as you never know what will happen, but if you look at it from a neutral perspective, it's hard to see where the improvement will come from in 2022. As they say; if you're not getting better in this league, you're getting worse.

Look at who they replaced though - Hastings definitely an improvement on Walters. At least one of Gildart and Junior Tupou, or AJ, will be better than BJ Leilua. Peachey should be an improvement on Mbye. And the young guns like Stef and Laurie should improve further with some experience under their belt.
 
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@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520685) said:
@adelaidetiger said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520683) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520681) said:
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.

I think the main problem is, while the roster was cleaned up somewhat, we didn't replace that deadwood with any real excitement, Hastings and Gildarts are big unknowns and Peachy could go either way.
In addition to this, Doueihi will be out for an extended period, our centre and spine depth issues have not been addressed, and many of the youngsters expected to take the next step last year were not able to.
There is always reason to be optimistic in the NRL as you never know what will happen, but if you look at it from a neutral perspective, it's hard to see where the improvement will come from in 2022. As they say; if you're not getting better in this league, you're getting worse.

Look at who they replaced though - Hastings definitely an improvement on Walters. At least one of Gildart and Junior Tupou, or AJ, will be better than BJ Leilua. Peachey should be an improvement on Mbye. And the young guns like Stef and Laurie should improve further with some experience under their belt.

Don't disagree with any of those comparisons, however Hastings is really vs Doueihi for the first half of the year, and while any of those centres are likely better than BJ, it is TBD if any are NRL standard. And yes peachy will be a massive upgrade on Mbye, I like the peach but I don't think he is the game breaker we are in desperate need of.
Completely agree that Stef and DL were massive in 2021, my point is while you hope juniors will improve year on year, what we saw last year is that you can't expect it. I hope the coaching changes have the desired effect and we see improvement by all.
For the record I am extremely optimistic about this year, my point was my optimism is not supported by the facts.
 
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@tilllindemann said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520681) said:
@harvey said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520680) said:
We should be thankful there is no promotion/relegation system in the NRL, otherwise I think it is unlikely we would feature in 2023

Genuine question, why do some people think we will go worse in 2022 than we did in 2021? We got rid of a lot of dead wood and replaced them with upgrades. I'm feeling positive.

I think that the side has given up listening to Madge. Unless he is just a figurehead I have no faith that selections, tactics and bench rotations will improve. These were major issues.

I think that our signings are unknown. If they do perform it will be a bonus, but I have no evidence to suggest that they will improve the team.

I question what we will get from Luci this year.

I hope I am wrong, but think Gildart will struggle massively.

AD is a huge loss.

Take 1-2 injuries out of the backs or forwards and we have no one to replace players.

I don't think the changes will do anything to improve our team defensively, and we will struggle to score points.

I hope I am wrong, but fear that I am not.
 
The good clubs will handle what ever covid throws at the competition again. Poor clubs like us won't. This year will be horrendous.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520196) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Are we a chance in 2022?](/post/1520195) said:
I thought 2021 was one of our worst years in the past decade.
Some insipid, even despicable efforts put in by the majority of the squad.
Without recognised centres and halves it’ll be a tough road. Our pack is still at around “P” plater stage.
If Hastings, the Peach and Olie play well, it’ll lead in 2023 nicely.
At this stage though, you would be a brave man to expect finals in 2022.

Question: would Hastings, the peach and Ollie get a gig at a top 4 club? They aren’t gonna change our fortunes.

Hastings YES
Ollie YES
The Peach NO (reserve orange peeler for park footy teams)
 
We're a chance every year - until we aren't. Blokes pulling in the right direction, a bit of luck with injuries and covid now, plus a few wins picked up during Origin and we could sneak in. I'm not saying that this team is '05, but what that magic year proved was that if we make the finals we can go all the way. Until we're not a mathematical possibility of making the 8, I still believe we can win the lot. Glass is not just half full, it's overflowing....
 
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