ARLC scraps anthem

[Demps]

Otherwise, next year it will be the Greeks who feel they are not represented fairly in the song. Then the Germans. Then the short people. It doesn't mention the gays, either. Or the fluid.

I love that argument. "When will it stop? If we allow gay marriage soon people will want to marry fish! " No. No they won't.

The mermaid in aquaman was alright.

Jonny Depp would say otherwise.

Similar situation to Josh Reynolds'.

Oh, maybe old Nicole then?

Jake the muss for you

 

[gallagher]

Otherwise, next year it will be the Greeks who feel they are not represented fairly in the song. Then the Germans. Then the short people. It doesn't mention the gays, either. Or the fluid.

I love that argument. "When will it stop? If we allow gay marriage soon people will want to marry fish! " No. No they won't.

The mermaid in aquaman was alright.

Jonny Depp would say otherwise.

Similar situation to Josh Reynolds'.

Oh, maybe old Nicole then?

Jake the muss for you

Well he was in star wars.......yeah, why not. I might get to rub his helmet

 

[Demps]

Otherwise, next year it will be the Greeks who feel they are not represented fairly in the song. Then the Germans. Then the short people. It doesn't mention the gays, either. Or the fluid.

I love that argument. "When will it stop? If we allow gay marriage soon people will want to marry fish! " No. No they won't.

The mermaid in aquaman was alright.

Jonny Depp would say otherwise.

Similar situation to Josh Reynolds'.

Oh, maybe old Nicole then?

Jake the muss for you

Well he was in star wars.......yeah, why not. I might get to rub his helmet

And Aquaman


Make mi sum iggs

 

[happy_tiger]

“God defend New Zealand”
The Kiwis should take responsibility for their own defence rather than leaving it all to God.

True story - the Kiwis have literally zero fighter craft in their airforce. They have about 50 aircraft, all transports or maritime patrol. In contrast Australia has about 100 jet fighters and about 300 aircraft total.

Kiwis only have 2 combat naval vessels as well - 2 ANZAC-class frigates. Adding to 4 patrol ships and 2 support vessels for a grand total of 10. Australia has 8 ANZAC-class frigates, 2 destroyers, 6 subs, a couple of landing vessels and support - about 50 active ships.

So they don't just leave it to God, they leave it to ANZUS as well!

Dan Carter and Richie McCaw were damn near their Gods

 

[diedpretty]

I think an alternative hip hop anthem would be popular as a nod to the kangaroo and recognition to the the increasing number of aging people requiring joint replacement.

Or the Cosmic Psychos " Nice Day to Go To The Pub" .

 

[diedpretty]

Does anyone know if the Maori's will be doing their anthem, "God Defend New Zealand".

Only the christian ones - the non christians might be offended that their country is being defended by a myth.

 

[diedpretty]

“God defend New Zealand”
The Kiwis should take responsibility for their own defence rather than leaving it all to God.

True story - the Kiwis have literally zero fighter craft in their airforce. They have about 50 aircraft, all transports or maritime patrol. In contrast Australia has about 100 jet fighters and about 300 aircraft total.

Kiwis only have 2 combat naval vessels as well - 2 ANZAC-class frigates. Adding to 4 patrol ships and 2 support vessels for a grand total of 10. Australia has 8 ANZAC-class frigates, 2 destroyers, 6 subs, a couple of landing vessels and support - about 50 active ships.

So they don't just leave it to God, they leave it to ANZUS as well!

Do our subs work ?

They do as long as they don't go underwater.

 

[twentyforty]

I think it is possibly a case of I'll take this part of the system because it suits me, I won't take take that part because it doesn't.

Why? if it hurts so much, do the indigenous people take part in Australia Day celebrations. They do however choose to have their own flag flying, they choose not to sing the National Anthem but wish to take part in various celebrations with indigenous cultural dances etc.

How many apologies to these "Australians" want? We have said we are sorry, do we have to keep saying it indefinitely. Does not make it right but white Australians also were part of the stolen generation, you do not hear this mentioned very often.

You can't pick and choose - if we are going to grow as a nation, we have to all make sacrifices - the past is the past, let's move on as an integrated nation.

New Zealand is the model we should be looking at.

I’m not sure that it is accurate to use words such as they and we in that context? My understanding is that indigenous activists form a small minority in your “they group” and likewise in the “we group” who are determined to keep singing. Many Australians, black white or brindle, are apathetic on the issue but will lean in favour of those who say their feelings are hurt.
I say, if you don’t want to sing it then don’t. Just stop telling others what they can’t sing or do or think. The Irish were forced to stop dancing and that didn’t end well? Look at their ridiculous dance moves.

 

[Russell]

I think it is possibly a case of I'll take this part of the system because it suits me, I won't take take that part because it doesn't.

Why? if it hurts so much, do the indigenous people take part in Australia Day celebrations. They do however choose to have their own flag flying, they choose not to sing the National Anthem but wish to take part in various celebrations with indigenous cultural dances etc.

How many apologies to these "Australians" want? We have said we are sorry, do we have to keep saying it indefinitely. Does not make it right but white Australians also were part of the stolen generation, you do not hear this mentioned very often.

You can't pick and choose - if we are going to grow as a nation, we have to all make sacrifices - the past is the past, let's move on as an integrated nation.

New Zealand is the model we should be looking at.


I’m not sure that it is accurate to use words such as they and we in that context? My understanding is that indigenous activists form a small minority in your “they group” and likewise in the “we group” who are determined to keep singing. Many Australians, black white or brindle, are apathetic on the issue but will lean in favour of those who say their feelings are hurt.
I say, if you don’t want to sing it then don’t. Just stop telling others what they can’t sing or do or think. The Irish were forced to stop dancing and that didn’t end well? Look at their ridiculous dance moves.

Mate. I don't care what they do at the "All Stars" match - they are all indigenous, including the opposition. If they want to sing / if they don't want to sing - if they want to play the Anthem / if they don't want to play the Anthem - it is their choice.

I am looking at the bigger picture, Australia Day, Anzac Day, playing for Australia against International opposition - picking and choosing what you participate in or don't. Having your own flag, having your own ceremonies while choosing to or not to participate in others.

Are we all one people, are we all one nation are we all now equal?

Let's move on together.

 

[twentyforty]

I think it is possibly a case of I'll take this part of the system because it suits me, I won't take take that part because it doesn't.

Why? if it hurts so much, do the indigenous people take part in Australia Day celebrations. They do however choose to have their own flag flying, they choose not to sing the National Anthem but wish to take part in various celebrations with indigenous cultural dances etc.

How many apologies to these "Australians" want? We have said we are sorry, do we have to keep saying it indefinitely. Does not make it right but white Australians also were part of the stolen generation, you do not hear this mentioned very often.

You can't pick and choose - if we are going to grow as a nation, we have to all make sacrifices - the past is the past, let's move on as an integrated nation.

New Zealand is the model we should be looking at.


I’m not sure that it is accurate to use words such as they and we in that context? My understanding is that indigenous activists form a small minority in your “they group” and likewise in the “we group” who are determined to keep singing. Many Australians, black white or brindle, are apathetic on the issue but will lean in favour of those who say their feelings are hurt.
I say, if you don’t want to sing it then don’t. Just stop telling others what they can’t sing or do or think. The Irish were forced to stop dancing and that didn’t end well? Look at their ridiculous dance moves.

Mate. I don't care what they do at the "All Stars" match - they are all indigenous, including the opposition. If they want to sing / if they don't want to sing - if they want to play the Anthem / if they don't want to play the Anthem - it is their choice.

I am looking at the bigger picture, Australia Day, Anzac Day, playing for Australia against International opposition - picking and choosing what you participate in or don't. Having your own flag, having your own ceremonies while choosing to or not to participate in others.

Are we all one people, are we all one nation are we all now equal?

Let's move on together.

Russell, Do think it’s possible that at least 2 of the 3 amigos did some tanking in that origin game?

 

[TCL]

I think it’s a shame and a cop out.

I’ve visited countries where the national anthem is sung before every sporting event, on a Monday morning before school commences and on a Friday afternoon before the students go home.

We may not like the anthem or the flag but it is what we have. I can understand discussions around possibly changing the flag or anthem but what disappoints me is when people refuse to sing it or when sporting bodies make decisions to Exclude it to appease a minority of people. I would rather they scrapped the game instead of the anthem.

I still get emotional when a sing the anthem At a sporting event or ceremony or see our flag when I’m travelling abroad.

 

[jirskyr]

Do our subs work ?

Yeah they do now. But a litany of failures to get them to this point, I believe.

 

[twentyforty]

All Australians should be proud to sing our Anthem

Why? I’m a very proud Australian but I don’t even like our anthem, I think it’s terrible.

I love my anthem , but why would I sing it for an all stars game

Play it when we win a gold at the Olympics and I'll sing it with a huge lump in my throat

It has its time

Those players are playing a foreign country. Are they representing Australia? Or are they representing something else? And if so what.?

I may add.. there would be many who are proud of those players and the contribution they make to this great country who would like to express that feeling in song.

 

[hugh1954]

Guess they don't play for Australia anymore as the surely couldn't stand for the flag and the anthem. Maybe we have a seperate Australian aboriginal team

 

[Tim Sheens]

Do our subs work ?

Yeah they do now. But a litany of failures to get them to this point, I believe.

Yeah, they work occasionally, but doesn't the problem that they often broadcast their location to the rest of the world when running remain?

 

[Papacito]

This is a good move.

The match is a celebration of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander players and culture.

Makes sense to listen to what they want.

 

[240z]

Simple answer to appease all sides, get Paul Kelly (from Irish and Italian immigrants) and Kev Carmody (descendant of the original first nation) to collaborate together again to pen an anthem that would be truly Australian and represent all Australians.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

Simple answer to appease all sides, get Paul Kelly (from Irish and Italian immigrants) and Kev Carmody (descendant of the original first nation) to collaborate together again to pen an anthem that would be truly Australian and represent all Australians.

Mate, you and I can do it down the Royal Oak, and grab a pizza afterwards and admire our work.

 

[Russell]

Simple answer to appease all sides, get Paul Kelly (from Irish and Italian immigrants) and Kev Carmody (descendant of the original first nation) to collaborate together again to pen an anthem that would be truly Australian and represent all Australians.

We do want a good Anthem - with those two, straight in the rubbish.

 

[rustycage]

Guess they don't play for Australia anymore as the surely couldn't stand for the flag and the anthem. Maybe we have a seperate Australian aboriginal team

Or maybe you could hear what it is they're trying to say.