Article from Paul Kent

Why the hell has it taken so long for someone in the media to point out this that fans have been complaining about for years???

Time and time again, it's one thing to be beaten by a better side, but it's something else entirely when a team of battlers puts in a big effort against more fancied opposition only to be dudded by those who are meant to be impartial.
 
Sutton/Klein/Cummins will get all the important games during the season even though they are the worst possible appointments.I said last year PVL needed to destroy Annesleys empire and nothing has changed.
Unfortunately i cant see any chance of competent refereeing under the current refereeing regime
 
@strongee said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341946) said:
@roar_power said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341936) said:
Its so true. But I don't understand it. Why would the NRL not want bottom 8 sides to do well. Look at the Tigers - NQ and Parramatta crowds already this season some of the biggest. WT are a very popular side around Australia with a strong brand - most peoples second team. The tigers making the finals would bring a whole lot more to the game (and NRL HQ) than some of the teams up there that make it every year.

Give the battlers a go. Today's refs are a bunch of bludgers and we know what we (WT) are going to get before a ball has been kicked.

It’s not really the nrl , it’s the referees understanding that if they majorly stuff up , or make a decision that can cause the daily telegraph crisis merchants to have a headline for the week , they might be refereeing Newtown vs north’s the next week . It’s ? self preservation .

How can they majorly stuff up by reffing a game fairly? They’re stuffing up more now by blatantly favouring the top teams, it’s becoming more and more obvious to people every season. Whether it’s the NRL or just the refs themselves I truly don’t understand why they wouldn’t want a more even comp with all 16 teams being given a fair go on the field. If it continues to keep going the way it’s going, the game will lose over half of its viewers and supporters very quickly - I know I’m already on my way out the door after 50+ years of supporting. How can this be good for the game, it’s non-sensical!
 
@davey_farrell said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342010) said:
I actually think Kenty has a soft spot for the Tigers and is a big fan of Madge. I dont believe he rags us out like our supposed supporter Hooper and Buzz /Crawley who hate us with a passion.
I personally thought it was a good article and very true!!

Some might even wonder whether he is an old Balmain fan. Lives around the corner from Leichhardt. Films a NRL360 segment opener at Balmains iconic Dicks Hotel.
 
@needaname said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342282) said:
@davey_farrell said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342010) said:
I actually think Kenty has a soft spot for the Tigers and is a big fan of Madge. I dont believe he rags us out like our supposed supporter Hooper and Buzz /Crawley who hate us with a passion.
I personally thought it was a good article and very true!!

Some might even wonder whether he is an old Balmain fan. Lives around the corner from Leichhardt. Films a NRL360 segment opener at Balmains iconic Dicks Hotel.

He did play one first-grade game for Parramatta though.
 
If Kent is claiming that those officiating a Wests Tigers game are exerting subconscious bias then the stats being a 9-5 penalty count and a 7-2 restart count against the Tigers not to mention the reportable incidents that were not dealt with on the field confirm this.

However, what I have noticed over the years it is not what the referees etc ping the Tigers for it is what they don't penalise our opposition for. There is no consistency within an 80 minute game from the officials as demonstrated by Latrell not being dealt with appropriately on Saturday.

Watching the game on Saturday there was a Tigers player, I think it was Laurie trying to get up and play the ball late in the tackle count and the commentator stated that will be a six again restart given it was a blatant infringement but of course the ref made no call. This happens every week but we just have to suck it up and get on with it as we know we won't get the rub of the green against the top teams!!
 
@diedpretty said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341843) said:
Once there was a time when referees got a feel for the game and adjudicated according to style.

Very good article particularly this point. It also proves why we need a captain who is willing to challenge the referee on the field. Cam Smith understood that.
 
@toptiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342297) said:
If Kent is claiming that those officiating a Wests Tigers game are exerting subconscious bias then the stats being a 9-5 penalty count and a 7-2 restart count against the Tigers not to mention the reportable incidents that were not dealt with on the field confirm this.

However, what I have noticed over the years it is not what the referees etc ping the Tigers for it is what they don't penalise our opposition for. There is no consistency within an 80 minute game from the officials as demonstrated by Latrell not being dealt with appropriately on Saturday.

Watching the game on Saturday there was a Tigers player, I think it was Laurie trying to get up and play the ball late in the tackle count and the commentator stated that will be a six again restart given it was a blatant infringement but of course the ref made no call. This happens every week but we just have to suck it up and get on with it as we know we won't get the rub of the green against the top teams!!

This is what I try to explain to my father in law who was a souths junior, it is not the penalties that souths get, it is the ones the opposition don’t get for the same infringement. Souths have been on this for years, 2014 was a special
 
@851 said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342326) said:
@toptiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342297) said:
If Kent is claiming that those officiating a Wests Tigers game are exerting subconscious bias then the stats being a 9-5 penalty count and a 7-2 restart count against the Tigers not to mention the reportable incidents that were not dealt with on the field confirm this.

However, what I have noticed over the years it is not what the referees etc ping the Tigers for it is what they don't penalise our opposition for. There is no consistency within an 80 minute game from the officials as demonstrated by Latrell not being dealt with appropriately on Saturday.

Watching the game on Saturday there was a Tigers player, I think it was Laurie trying to get up and play the ball late in the tackle count and the commentator stated that will be a six again restart given it was a blatant infringement but of course the ref made no call. This happens every week but we just have to suck it up and get on with it as we know we won't get the rub of the green against the top teams!!

This is what I try to explain to my father in law who was a souths junior, it is not the penalties that souths get, it is the ones the opposition don’t get for the same infringement. Souths have been on this for years, 2014 was a special

Souths supporters think there's a penalty for them every single play. Just listen to them at a game. They boo every single time they play the ball.
 
@mac_tiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342303) said:
@diedpretty said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341843) said:
Once there was a time when referees got a feel for the game and adjudicated according to style.

Very good article particularly this point. It also proves why we need a captain who is willing to challenge the referee on the field. Cam Smith understood that.

We need the club to produce the evidence and the stats and blow up big time. It has been said many times the NRL are a reactionary organisation, they will do absolutely nothing till their brand name is being tarnished. Talking to HQ behind closed doors will do nothing...it never has. It’s has to be out in the open so they are accountable. Might cost 50 grand in fines but a lot cheaper than been dudded by Sutton Klein and Cumins
 
@supercoach said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342374) said:
@mac_tiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342303) said:
@diedpretty said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341843) said:
Once there was a time when referees got a feel for the game and adjudicated according to style.

Very good article particularly this point. It also proves why we need a captain who is willing to challenge the referee on the field. Cam Smith understood that.

We need the club to produce the evidence and the stats and blow up big time. It has been said many times the NRL are a reactionary organisation, they will do absolutely nothing till their brand name is being tarnished. Talking to HQ behind closed doors will do nothing...it never has. It’s has to be out in the open so they are accountable. Might cost 50 grand in fines but a lot cheaper than been dudded by Sutton Klein and Cumins

Ricky definitely hasn’t got value for money if it only takes 50k in fines
 
@tigerballs said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342080) said:
@supercoach said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341961) said:
@jadtiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341907) said:
I dont often agree with him but referees "managing" a game is a complete travesty of fairness.It has been going on since Harrigan and is getting progressively worse.
The job of a referee is to be impartial and neutral in their rulings,unfortunately now they decide who they feel should win the game and act accordingly

So true and the NRL keep introducing rules that give the refs more discretionary power. So now with things like the six again rule they have total control of results with zero accountability.

No doubt it’s a tough gig and you will never please everyone being a ref, but where we are at present is hopeless as it’s the same every week...if it is not Sutton,it’s Cumins or Klein

In the very first game this season, the ref called a forward pass from the half to the prop at the kick off. It was line ball. Haven't seen it before or since, even though 60% of them are forward.

Also the play the ball - saw a Cows player get pinged for not attempting to play the ball with his foot in the game against the dogs. Tom Burgess never plays the ball correctly and i have yet to see him pulled up. He continually rolled the ball between his legs without any attempt to use his foot. Result - play on.
 
@rah53 said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342361) said:
@851 said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342326) said:
@toptiger said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342297) said:
If Kent is claiming that those officiating a Wests Tigers game are exerting subconscious bias then the stats being a 9-5 penalty count and a 7-2 restart count against the Tigers not to mention the reportable incidents that were not dealt with on the field confirm this.

However, what I have noticed over the years it is not what the referees etc ping the Tigers for it is what they don't penalise our opposition for. There is no consistency within an 80 minute game from the officials as demonstrated by Latrell not being dealt with appropriately on Saturday.

Watching the game on Saturday there was a Tigers player, I think it was Laurie trying to get up and play the ball late in the tackle count and the commentator stated that will be a six again restart given it was a blatant infringement but of course the ref made no call. This happens every week but we just have to suck it up and get on with it as we know we won't get the rub of the green against the top teams!!

This is what I try to explain to my father in law who was a souths junior, it is not the penalties that souths get, it is the ones the opposition don’t get for the same infringement. Souths have been on this for years, 2014 was a special

Souths supporters think there's a penalty for them every single play. Just listen to them at a game. They boo every single time they play the ball.

Was at the game Sat nite..reckon Souths outnumbered WTs supporters 2 to 1..maybe more
..and they are very vocal from the first minute,which I think has an impact over the full course of the game
Takes a ref with a big pair to ignore them
and btw,Souths were in front of the ref most play the balls in the 2nd half,and rarely penailsed...just kills attack of most opponents
 
@cairnstigers said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1342015) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Article from Paul Kent](/post/1341865) said:
Can't stand Kent but a valid article.

Hope PVL is reading it.

I have to agree
Never really liked what he wrote about us because it was almost like he was sticking the daggers in
I think it's the best article I have seen him write
And it is very relevant in today's game
Those at the top should and must read this to understand where the game has been going wrong
The referees seem to have a pre conceived idea how the game will roll and for that matter who will or who should win
They are looking to hard to penalise players because of previous indiscretions
Like Paul Kent said
The refs need to get the feel of the game
Not all games are played the same way so the refs should adjust to suit the current game
They shouldn't adjust to suit last week's game

There are so many things wrong with the Nrl
The Nrl needs to have a complete Audit from top to bottom
It's judiciary system
It's refereeing
It's salary cap systems
It's third party payment system
These are just 4 areas that need addressing because these four areas are extremely inconsistent among clubs and players
It is creating divide and is the cause of disparity between the top clubs and the bottom clubs
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@Cairnstigers :+1 said:
Your very lucky that you have the gift of seeing the serious and humorous side of things.
Cane toad munching must be the answer...can Yuh send a few down to me by post?
 
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