Ballin - Another Knee Reco perhaps

I thought he could have played Farah.

He had a choice there.

That he choose ET over Halatau, Cherrington or Liddle was interesting for the people saying we have plenty of depth there.
 
@Eddie said:
I thought he could have played Farah.

He had a choice there.

That he choose ET over Halatau, Cherrington or Liddle was interesting for the people saying we have plenty of depth there.

Again showing why Taylor not be coach of this team. Elijah taylor has been phenomenal since coming over, linking with Brooks to add another dimension in attack. Yet JT moves him to hooker, come on , someone please in tiger world put us out of this nightmare and get rid of JT.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
He cost us virtually nothing, so i don't know how people classify someone a bad signing when they came for free.

Nothing is free GNR. We payed for him ,one way or another.
 
@Harvey said:
When did Ballin actually injure himself ? Cherrington played state cup Saturday.

Fox just said it happened during the Broncos game , I remember seeing something that concerned me at the time , but he kept playing on so forgot all about it
 
@Harvey said:
When did Ballin actually injure himself ? Cherrington played state cup Saturday.

Flared up after the Captain' Run Saturday afternoon I was told…Cherrington should have been withdrawn...IMO..
 
@happy tiger said:
@Harvey said:
When did Ballin actually injure himself ? Cherrington played state cup Saturday.

Fox just said it happened during the Broncos game , I remember seeing something that concerned me at the time , but he kept playing on so forgot all about it

If that is the case, not selecting a specialist hooker (even one who could only play 35 mins) was an absolutely stupid decision. Now apparently selections are agreed on by all the coaches and signed off by buckets, so…
 
Why was it such a risky signing? So he did an ACL last year, so what? I'm not aware of it being a recurrent problem throughout his career. He was only 31 when he did it and is only 32 now, his capacity to recover from that injury would not be noticeably different from someone in their mid to late 20's. His odds were good to make a recovery, especially given they took a conservative approach to the surgery and to bringing him back.

Sure there was some risk and unfortunately it has been realised but people carrying on like it was inevitable and they "knew it was going to happen" are just being dicks to be honest. There's all kinds of risks that go with recruitment. I'm sure they took advice from doctors on the odds of recovery and made a call accordingly.
 
Nelson.

At the end of the day they were proven right about it being a risk.

Some people were ticked off we signed a guy who would be out until Round 12.

Your dreaming if you think it wasn't a risky signing.

Sadly 2 games for Matty this year and in doubt for next year are the facts.

Its not his fault, but it was a gamble from the clubs point of view. And when you gamble sometimes you get snake eyes.
 
I thought he was due back before round 12, but the date kept getting pushed back. That is what makes me think there were ongoing problems with the recovery
 
@Nelson said:
Why was it such a risky signing? So he did an ACL last year, so what? I'm not aware of it being a recurrent problem throughout his career. He was only 31 when he did it and is only 32 now, his capacity to recover from that injury would not be noticeably different from someone in their mid to late 20's. His odds were good to make a recovery, especially given they took a conservative approach to the surgery and to bringing him back.

Sure there was some risk and unfortunately it has been realised but people carrying on like it was inevitable and they "knew it was going to happen" are just being dicks to be honest. There's all kinds of risks that go with recruitment. I'm sure they took advice from doctors on the odds of recovery and made a call accordingly.

As I was trying to craft my own reply I saw this and thought Nelson's done it for me. I agree.
 
First of all, it's an awful injury and a long and painful rehab. Matty seems like a good guy and I wish him a speedy recovery.

Given JT's comments yesterday regarding Robbie, I wonder if he knew Matty's situation? Surely, he cannot persist without a specialist hooker for much longer. With Ballin supposedly gone and him needing results, I am expecting to see RF in the team sheet tomorrow.
 
@mctiger said:
@Nelson said:
Why was it such a risky signing? So he did an ACL last year, so what? I'm not aware of it being a recurrent problem throughout his career. He was only 31 when he did it and is only 32 now, his capacity to recover from that injury would not be noticeably different from someone in their mid to late 20's. His odds were good to make a recovery, especially given they took a conservative approach to the surgery and to bringing him back.

Sure there was some risk and unfortunately it has been realised but people carrying on like it was inevitable and they "knew it was going to happen" are just being dicks to be honest. There's all kinds of risks that go with recruitment. I'm sure they took advice from doctors on the odds of recovery and made a call accordingly.

As I was trying to craft my own reply I saw this and thought Nelson's done it for me. I agree.

Coming back from a knee reconstruction is always risky - just because we see lots of guys do it nowadays doesn't mean it's a guaranteed 100% recovery. It gets riskier the older the patient gets, too. That's not to mention the risk that other things will go wrong as the body compensates for the bad knee.

So, yes, signing a guy in his 30s who was rehabbing a full knee reconstruction was a very risky thing to do, with a reasonable probability that exactly what has happened would happen. The Tigers gave a two-year contract to a guy who they absolutely knew wouldn't play for a quarter of that contract, and who they ought to have known would be at heightened risk for the rest. Maybe the deal was so good it was worth the risk, but there's no point denying that the risk was there - or that it won't now pay off.

It ought to go without saying that I wish Ballin no harm and I hope he comes back from this latest setback either as a player or ready for the next phase of his life. But purely as a football signing he was a mistake by the club - at best a lottery ticket that didn't pay off and at worst a phenomenally dumb move.
 
@jadtiger said:
@happy tiger said:
You have to feel for Ballin

Two back to back recos , I wish you the best Matt , hope you have a speedy recovery

Honestly , this isn't the time to ride the club or Taylor over this

Ballin is probably in a dark place at the moment , lets support him and give him our best wishes for a speedy comeback

What has happened has happened , we can't change it , just typical WT's good luck

I am sure everyone has a lot of sympathy for him however it was always going to be a huge gamble signing an early 30s hooker after a knee recon

A huge gamble? He cost almost nothing; Manly picked up most of his salary as a sweetener for us to release Marty.
 
@sideline eye said:
@jadtiger said:
@happy tiger said:
You have to feel for Ballin

Two back to back recos , I wish you the best Matt , hope you have a speedy recovery

Honestly , this isn't the time to ride the club or Taylor over this

Ballin is probably in a dark place at the moment , lets support him and give him our best wishes for a speedy comeback

What has happened has happened , we can't change it , just typical WT's good luck

I am sure everyone has a lot of sympathy for him however it was always going to be a huge gamble signing an early 30s hooker after a knee recon

A huge gamble? He cost almost nothing; Manly picked up most of his salary as a sweetener for us to release Marty.

I think keeping Marty for another year would have been far more beneficial to the team than an injured Ballin.
 
@sideline eye said:
@jadtiger said:
@happy tiger said:
You have to feel for Ballin

Two back to back recos , I wish you the best Matt , hope you have a speedy recovery

Honestly , this isn't the time to ride the club or Taylor over this

Ballin is probably in a dark place at the moment , lets support him and give him our best wishes for a speedy comeback

What has happened has happened , we can't change it , just typical WT's good luck

I am sure everyone has a lot of sympathy for him however it was always going to be a huge gamble signing an early 30s hooker after a knee recon

A huge gamble? He cost almost nothing; Manly picked up most of his salary as a sweetener for us to release Marty.

He was a huge gamble you do realize he was part of our top 25 players and who knows how much Manly are paying for him.many assume he is costing us little but we DONT know for sure.As i said we all wish him well but he really was not worth the risk after an acl at his age.
 
@Eddie said:
@RobWT said:
Another quality signing by the club. Feel for the bloke himself.

This is the general feeling.

However some are having a hard time getting their head around it.

No one is having a go at Ballin.

Yeah cos "60 minute Ballin" isn't having a go at all.
 

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