Ballin's role in McIlwrick's rise

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Ballin's role in McIlwrick's rise

Alicia Newton‌, National Correspondent‌‌, ‌‌‌NRL.com

Thu 20th April, 10:45AM

Wests Tigers hooker Matt Ballin has had a terrible run of luck.

A forgotten man in the last two seasons, the former Sea Eagles veteran has managed only three games since the move to the inner west in 2016 after back-to-back ACL injuries and a stop-start return to begin the year.

‌In January he told Wests Tigers TV of his desire to remain patient and in the meantime, he's guiding current No.9 Matt McIlwrick and young rookie Jacob Liddle off the paddock.

"Obviously you don't wish injury upon anybody especially Matty, who is such a great bloke and has been so influential for me particularly in the off-season," McIlwrick said of Ballin.

"That’s football and at the end of the day we play a contact sport and [injury] comes with the territory.

"He'll pull through and hopefully he's alright for the second half of the season."

Despite sitting on the sidelines, Ballin still remains an integral part in the development of the young duo, particularly with the departure of Tigers veteran Robbie Farah at the end of last season.

"We all do video together and he's the first one to point stuff out, particularly on the go he will gives us tips so that’s what you look for," McIlwrick said.

"He's helped me and 'Lids' out a fair bit, all three of us worked together on our passing, getting to know the team [in the pre-season].

"The way he looks at the game is unbelievable, his leadership and the way he carries himself around the team, he's well respected by everyone and that’s something you want to strive for, to earn your teammates' respect is the biggest thing you can have.

"It's been sad to see him go down but I've got an opportunity to put my hand up now and with Jacob Liddle in the side, he's a great young talent so hopefully we can [build] on that combination."

Opportunity is the one thing that McIlwrick has taken with both hands.

After stints with the Raiders, Roosters and Sharks prior to his arrival at Concord, the 25-year-old journeyman has played in the opening seven rounds of the Telstra Premiership – the longest streak of his NRL career and is beginning to call the joint venture home.

Playing under interim coach Andrew Webster and new leader Ivan Cleary has McIlwrick already reaping the rewards with the Kiwi-born rake playing longer minutes to average a tick under 60 per game - a 23-minute increase compared to his average of 37 in the opening three rounds.

As a result, he's returned serve with a career-best performance against the Cowboys in Townsville that included a try and two line-breaks, and another four-pointer against the Eels on Easter Monday.

"Ivan has been pretty clear what he wants from us so the future is bright," McIlwrick said.

"I'm sure over the next few weeks and months he will start to have [even] more of an influence on us.

"He's getting to know us just as much as we're learning about him.

"Footy is a funny game, when you're down you're down but all it takes is one win to get back up there again and we need to start winning games."

McIlwrick and the Wests Tigers will get their chance to bounce back when they take on the Bulldogs at ANZ Stadium on Sunday.
 
Ballin seems like a great influence to have at the club. Hopefully the other players are learning plenty from him, some of that has already shown.
 
Given all the flack so many fans dish out to our top players and their loyalty and professionalism, it amazes me that some can still be critical about Ballin. He's had a bad run of injuries sure, hasn't worked out on the field for him, but he's exactly the sort fo player a club would want to mold it's culture around.

A shame he couldn't rub off on the primadonnas.
 
It would be all sweet for me if he was brought to the club as mentor or some sort of coaching aspect. But he was brought here to play footy and that hasn't happened.
 
I guess he is getting paid whether he is playing or not, so he has to contribute somehow as it is not on the field.
 
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No surprise in this as he is a clubman first, rather than an individual.

Pity there not a few more with that attitude at the club.
 
I'm sure he's a great guy but let's be real - he was a disastrous signing. Full stop. All this nonsense about how he's responsible for turning fringe first grader Matt McIlwrick into moderate first grader Matt McIlwrick - seriously, give me strength. :deadhorse:
 
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I'm sure he's a great guy but let's be real - he was a disastrous signing. Full stop. All this nonsense about how he's responsible for turning fringe first grader Matt McIlwrick into moderate first grader Matt McIlwrick - seriously, give me strength. :deadhorse:

Yes Ballin has been a disaster on the paddock which is what he was signed for.
 
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Ballin should advertise is services as a football whisperer and ask for 200k per year

I was thinking of having a go at this myself.

and I'm sure Ballin would have a list a mile long of masseuses and physical therapists :slight_smile:
 
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Ballin should advertise is services as a football whisperer and ask for 200k per year

I was thinking of having a go at this myself.

and I'm sure Ballin would have a list a mile long of masseuses and physical therapists :slight_smile:

I bet he has a better list than me. What a joke of a signing.
 
and yet Manly continue to pay his wages. Would have hoped we got more game time out of him, but the attitude he brings will improve the club in the long term.
 
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and yet Manly continue to pay his wages. Would have hoped we got more game time out of him, but the attitude he brings will improve the club in the long term.

I'm sure i read on here that we carry full freight for this year, the subsidy was last year only.

he has been good off the field by all accounts and that is massive for our club, we needed strong leaders but we bought to him play. At least he is doing his bit and the situation was not of his doing.
 
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and yet Manly continue to pay his wages. Would have hoped we got more game time out of him, but the attitude he brings will improve the club in the long term.

I'm sure i read on here that we carry full freight for this year, the subsidy was last year only.

he has been good off the field by all accounts and that is massive for our club, we needed strong leaders but we bought to him play. At least he is doing his bit and the situation was not of his doing.

That is correct we are paying the full amount this year
 
How does that work, he had a 3 year contract at Manly, unless we agreed to pay the full load.

Hopefully that means that we are not paying any of the 2018 option that the lazy Siro decided to take up before looking for the exit.
 
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How does that work, he had a 3 year contract at Manly, unless we agreed to pay the full load.

Hopefully that means that we are not paying any of the 2018 option that the lazy Siro decided to take up before looking for the exit.

It all depends on what agreement is reached between the 2 clubs in Ballins case Manly agreed to pay the majority (close to 300k) for 1 year only and nothing after that.I have no idea about Sirro only what i have read.
 

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