Balmain hijack Wests Tigers Gala Ball night

[Balmain_Bug]

Is it really that big a deal???
For the few minutes it will take and most of the people involved likely to be there anyway, Are the preceedings really distressing you that much?
I would suggest, That if the Magpies don't want to incorporate any functions with the Wests Tigers it is simply because of thier struggle on ALL Levels to maintain a seperate (Stronger) entity.
All this Balmain / Magpies Hoo Haa, Really is resembling a rocking chair, It gives the old Maggies something to do… But doesn't get them anywhere.
The belief is that Wests are supplying ALL the Money and ALL The Players, So why not supply ALL your own functions as well??
Meh!!

Batboy,
I personslly think it should be all under the one umbrella. Just like what Smeg wrote. Not one group do it with the WT and the other not.

For the record, Wests dont give any more money to the JV than what Balmain do. Its just that Balmain get more 'benefit' out of that money.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

It sounds like WT have hijacked the Balmain Gala Ball… WT must feel pretty comfortable with the happenings out Balmain way to tag along onto thier Gala Ball, give all there WT players to BRET... It must be a big THANKYOU for thier ongoing support and faith in the way the WT are managing thier investment...

Maybe the Magpies need to take note?!

 

[boonboon]

2 key things
1\. We are one club and I am a little dissapointed as a Wests Tigers fan that Wests aren't also having their inductions at a Wests Tigers event - they really should be working towards one club as well - so Well Done Balmain dissapointing Magpies

2\. Balmain Bug is IMO the most devisive and angry poster on this forum and if we had a function where I could auto delete all his posts so I never had to see them - I would enjoy my time on the forum so much more

 

[Geo]

2 key things
1\. We are one club and I am a little dissapointed as a Wests Tigers fan that Wests aren't also having their inductions at a Wests Tigers event - they really should be working towards one club as well - so Well Done Balmain dissapointing Magpies

2\. Balmain Bug is IMO the most devisive and angry poster on this forum and if we had a function where I could **auto delete all his posts so I never had to see them** - I would enjoy my time on the forum so much more

We do …it's called add foe and can be accessed through the user control panel...

 

[batboy]

The day will come when Wests Tigers won't need either club…
I look forward to this as surely, It will end the debate....
The Magpies have been treated unfairly by the entire world since before Canterbury stole Baa Baa...
Is there enough Violins in this world?

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

The day will come when Wests Tigers won't need either club…
I look forward to this as surely, It will end the debate....
The Magpies have been treated unfairly by the entire world since before Canterbury stole Baa Baa...
Is there enough Violins in this world?

Actually, it started in the late 1930's with the introduction of Canterbury and St. George and the change of the residency rule to accommodate those two clubs.

 

[tigergran]

It sounds like WT have hijacked the Balmain Gala Ball… WT must feel pretty comfortable with the happenings out Balmain way to tag along onto thier Gala Ball, give all there WT players to BRET... It must be a big THANKYOU for thier ongoing support and faith in the way the WT are managing thier investment...

Maybe the Magpies need to take note?!

Hi everyone
Well said, Watto.

The Hall of Fame Dinner has been packed out every year. It is a great night. Worth every cent…

Tigergran

 

[batboy]

Wests and Balmain BOTH are accountable for they're own demise…
But us as fans must share some of the burden as well, If our respective clubs were more supported / financial... We would still be around.
What remains is all that is left. If one side chooses to run with the bulls, Then there is not much you can do. If the other side choose not to, And further alienate itself.... Then please don't lay about, Whinging and whineing about the consequences and repocussions.....
I'm almost certain at ANY request, The Wests Tigers would be glad to incorporate any type functions from Wests. But as you so elegantly put it.... Wests don't think it is right and prefer to have they're own stand alone functions.
If you guys can't get on board, And side with the Big Boys..... There is no hope for you. Until then, Keep fighting this pointless battle

 

[Balmain_Bug]

I am not devisive. I seek unity, fairness and equity in the Joint venture. They are 3 words that unfortunately have not been afforded to the Wests Group since 2006.

 

[Alf_Duguid]

I am not devisive. I seek unity, fairness and equity in the Joint venture. They are 3 words that unfortunately have not been afforded to the Wests Group since 2006.

Well said Bug. At least you're playing the ball and not the man

 

[tigergran]

Bug

Before you say Balmain hijacked the Tigers Ball - have you checked with Wests as to whether they would want to be included? Or why they were not included? That would be a start.

Tigergran

 

[matty119]

There are too many assumptions which are being made in this debate, particularly by Bug in the first instance for starting the topic.

The facts are Wests Tigers will be running a Wests Magpies event similar to this later in the year. This is a new event created by Wests Tigers to incorporate the Balmain Hall of Fame which they have been handed by Balmain to take advantage of both the Balmain and Wests Tigers corporate contacts. This is the same deal with the Wests Magpies function (unsure of the exact name) later in the year.

In NO WAY have Balmain hijacked this event from Wests Tigers, in fact it could be seen more as the opposite, although that would be an extremely cynical take on the topic. If you want to talk about equity in this sense, the same thing happened with the Grand Final Luncheon, which is a Balmain function which Wests Tigers hijacked (again an extremely cynical way of thinking, but more correct than the opposite), so in the corporate sense, Balmain is actually bringing in more money to the organisation than Wests. Not trying to bag Wests here, just stating the facts.

I would appreciate if there are going to be any Balmain vs Wests debates in this forum that the people starting and flaring the debates get their facts right first before making clearly incorrect and ignorant statements.

 

[Guest]

I think it is a good idea as it shows Balmains support for the JV and the fact they are part of it.To be honest i am very surprised that Wests Magpies dont do the same thing.

Jadtiger, Willow and others,
The issue is equity, fairness and image.

Balmain do everything they can to piggyback on Wests Tigers Functions and events by clinging on to things like this. Balmain do everything they can to have people only refer to Wests Tigers as the 'Tigers' and make out that Wests Tigers are primarily 'Balmain' by pushing the extinct Balmain name at every Wests Tigers event and function possible.

Wests Magpies dont do it because they have decency and they do not think its right.

For goodness sakes Balmain no longer even has a Mens open age side. They are only represented in the junior comps.

The issue is image and the perception of the public. The more and more that this happens, the more the general public will think that Balmain are the Wests Tigers and the Wests Magpies involvment in the joint venture is minimal or non existant.

The equity in public image is just not there.

Bug, it would not bother me in the slightest if Wests Magpies were doing this, I'd wish them the best of luck as well. Again, the Wests V Balmain debate is dead and really should not enter the equation. I support the Wests Tigers. You stick with your agenda if it makes you feel better though. Some of us are mature enough to know that this is a non-issue and can look past it towards a better future for the Wests Tigers.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Matty119,
What function are you talking about later in the year? Is it a Gala Ball like this or is it Wests V StGeorge at the SCG which is heritage specific and a 'mandatory' celebration?

The wests Tigers Grand Final brekfast at La Montage has one thing in common with the Balmain one of years gone by. The venue.

Thats it.

Im just asking for fairness. The internal push to have Balmain over represented in this joint venture is upsetting for those from the Wests side. When the CEO himself refers to Wests Tigers as 'Black and Gold' etc etc then obviously there is a lot of work to be done. Most of the merchandise does not have the colour white in it or the word Wests in it. Why??

Very unfair, To top it off all NRL players are are sent to BRET and this added issue gives all non WT Supporters the perception that WT is basically the Balmain Tigers.

All WT functions and opetations should just be WT or Balmain and Wests inclusive.
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Not one more than the other.

 

[matty119]

Matty119,
What function are you talking about later in the year? Is it a Gala Ball like this or is it Wests V StGeorge at the SCG which is heritage specific and a 'mandatory' celebration?

The wests Tigers Grand Final brekfast at La Montage has one thing in common with the Balmain one of years gone by. The venue.

Thats it.

Im just asking for fairness. The internal push to have Balmain over represented in this joint venture is upsetting for those from the Wests side. When the CEO himself refers to Wests Tigers as 'Black and Gold' etc etc then obviously there is a lot of work to be done. Most of the merchandise does not have the colour white in it or the word Wests in it. Why??

Very unfair, To top it off all NRL players are are sent to BRET and this added issue gives all non WT Supporters the perception that WT is basically the Balmain Tigers.

All WT functions and opetations should just be WT or Balmain and Wests inclusive.
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Not one more than the other.

I'm not sure of the specifics of the Wests function later in the year, all I know that is that it will be a similar one to the Balmain one, celebrating the Wests side of the joint venture, much like the aforementioned Black and White Ball. It is not a one off, rather the first of an annual event that Wests Tigers has taken on this year.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Willow,
I look forward to all the Balmain v Wests stuff to die abd that we all move forward as WT supporters but that will never happen with the way things are currently being done.

Can you name one thing that the Balmain side of the joint venture are disadvantaged on in regards to what they get from the JV?

I bet you cant.

As a Wests Magpies / WT fan, I can name half a dozen.

 

[magpie_mania]

Willow,
I look forward to all the Balmain v Wests stuff to die abd that we all move forward as WT supporters but that will never happen with the way things are currently being done.

Can you name one thing that the Balmain side of the joint venture are disadvantaged on in regards to what they get from the JV?

I bet you cant.

As a Wests Magpies / WT fan, I can name half a dozen.

The fact Balmain are riding on Wests Tigers coat tails just shows balmains ineptitude for what it really is.Ryde eastwood pulls the plug and theyre cactus.

 

[tiger05]

I am not devisive. I seek unity, fairness and equity in the Joint venture. They are 3 words that unfortunately have not been afforded to the Wests Group since 2006.

Bug - what is going on. I have previously found you supportive of the joint venture and this does not appear to be that way.

Is this a change in opinion ?

 

[batboy]

Willow,
I look forward to all the Balmain v Wests stuff to die abd that we all move forward as WT supporters but that will never happen with the way things are currently being done.

Can you name one thing that the Balmain side of the joint venture are disadvantaged on in regards to what they get from the JV?

I bet you cant.

As a Wests Magpies / WT fan, I can name half a dozen.

The fact Balmain are riding on Wests Tigers coat tails just shows balmains ineptitude for what it really is.Ryde eastwood pulls the plug and theyre cactus.

Not while they have Paul Sironen at the helm…..

 

[Goose]

this sort of stuff would be laughable if not so destructive.

If my info is correct, the tigers hall of fame ball is an ongoing event, successful in its own right, this year they have incorporated it as part of a west tigers ball.

I would call this supporting the joint venture, hey others would call it "hijacking" or riding on the joint ventures skirt tales….. i think those views are backward.

In answer to the question, would i accept a magpies thing doing the same, i really would!! I reckon it would be great if they had wests and balmain inductees which combined made up the West Tigers hall of fame.

it could be argued that running a magpies stand alone function is working against the J/V......it is all a matter of perspective.

As for the 89 players celebrating with the 2005 team, i reckon it is great they are behind the JV

this west vs tigers stuff is stupid......