Balmain seek extension..Wests Tigers

@hobbo2803 said:
@Russell said:
Thanks for the negative hobbo2803 - you obviously have no idea what I was trying to say.

It was a comment by me - no negative to Wests Tigers in my post, so what are you on about.

I followed Balmain Tigers for 5o years and the Wests Tigers and the Balmain Juniors for the past 15 years also. Geo, Balmain may not have voting rights at the moment but they are still 50% of Wests Tigers, so apart from my first 5 years they have been a large part of my life.

I commend you guys for being able to just strip away your heritage, tribal roots etc. I can't do that. While I have been a loyal Wests tigers

supporter - (one of the few on here that did not get caught up in "them v us crap" and all the negative stuff about Farah and JT) I do not want to be negative with regards to Wests Tigers.

Mine, was a simple statement that if Balmain is no longer involved it is not going to be the same for me (everyone else can do as they please, that is their prerogative - I am not trying to change anyone elses opinion or persuade them to be the same as mine) or can one not have an opinion that is different than anyone elses.

hobbo2803 - pot calling the kettle black - you are one of the most negative posters on here and you call me negative. Get a life Mate!

Wow !!!
So you supported Balmain for 50 years ?
Sounds like you were a closet supporter to me .
If your happy to change to a magpies logo , and I suppose the magpies colours ?
Cause it would look quite silly in Orange , black and white .
I suppose all the the ex Balmain supporters would grasp with open arms at the concept and no fans would be lost to the brand Wests Tigers .
So glad you don't have anything to do with Wests Tigers ( Administrative wise ).
Ps if you need the bandwagon let me know cause that what it sounds like when you were with Balmain !

You know nothing about me.

Closet indeed - thanks …. you are not really worth a reply. You have no idea what I was saying or getting at. Sounds like you are the one in the closet.
 
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???
 
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

The primary reason the Parramatta Eels wanted to merge with Balmain was to utilise the Tigers name and emblem as the Parramatta Tigers is far more marketable than Parramatta Eels. Similarly, the Wests Tigers would and should never relinquish the Tigers name and emblem as I'm certain several other NRL teams would jump at the opportunity to use the Tigers name & emblem in a heart beat!! :crazy
 
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

:laughing:
 
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

The name will not change. That's a 100% guarantee. The paranoia people are showing over this does my head in. Don't mean to aim this at you Greg. The presence of the club might increase in the LIverpool/Mcarthur region but that's it. And even that would only likely happen if a new stadium/centre of excellence is built.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

The name will not change. That's a 100% guarantee. The paranoia people are showing over this does my head in. Don't mean to aim this at you Greg. The presence of the club might increase in the LIverpool/Mcarthur region but that's it. And even that would only likely happen if a new stadium/centre of excellence is built.

Wholly agree with you GNR,even with a centre of excellence and a wider fan base,the NRL would never get rid of the Tigers logo…it is highly marketable..
 
Pretty much Gunners, I don't think Ashfield are interested in starting again. They have a 3 tiered supporter base consisting of old Balmain & Maggies fans and Wests Tigers fans. They won't jeopardise that, especially since they've tipped so much money into it.
 
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

Why would a club based in the inner west Wests Ashfield who own 50% now as Wests Campbelltown don't have any board members or ownership want to move a club away from its members. As an Ashfield local it is much more connected with areas like Balmain,Leichardt and Concord then way out West
 
@Boonboon2 said:
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

Why would a club based in the inner west Wests Ashfield who own 50% now as Wests Campbelltown don't have any board members or ownership want to move a club away from its members. As an Ashfield local it is much more connected with areas like Balmain,Leichardt and Concord then way out West

I would doubt that many Wests Ashfield members are also WT members. It would also be an insignificant amount ( if any) of Wests Ashfield's profits come from fans of WT.
 
@Boonboon2 said:
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

Why would a club based in the inner west Wests Ashfield who own 50% now as Wests Campbelltown don't have any board members or ownership want to move a club away from its members. As an Ashfield local it is much more connected with areas like Balmain,Leichardt and Concord then way out West

I would doubt that many Wests Ashfield members are also WT members. It would also be an insignificant amount ( if any) of Wests Ashfield's profits come from fans of WT.
 
@TopTiger said:
@Greg said:
While the NRL may not allow Wests to change the name of the Wests Tigers back to the Western Suburbs Magpies, they may think differently about a team called the Macarthur Magpies playing out of Campbelltown and ANZ Stadiums…???

The primary reason the Parramatta Eels wanted to merge with Balmain was to utilise the Tigers name and emblem as the Parramatta Tigers is far more marketable than Parramatta Eels. Similarly, the Wests Tigers would and should never relinquish the Tigers name and emblem as I'm certain several other NRL teams would jump at the opportunity to use the Tigers name & emblem in a heart beat!! :crazy

Thats as likely as the roosters playing or of Campbelltown
 
Geez, why would someone mention bringing back the Magpies again. Enough of that crap.

The Wests Tigers Board (and that of Ashfield) have categorically stated the brand is Wests Tigers and will remain that way permanently.

The NRL have stated the license is with the Wests Tigers and no name change will be permitted.

And lastly anyone with half a brain knows the Tiger as an emblem is one of the most powerful in sport. Why Balmain was so sought after for a merger in 1999\. The Wests magpies are not a strong brand, never have been, and is generally associated with losing.

Its not going to happen, nor should it ever happen in a million years. Don't derail a thread with this pointless propaganda.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Geez, why would someone mention bringing back the Magpies again. Enough of that crap.

The Wests Tigers Board (and that of Ashfield) have categorically stated the brand is Wests Tigers and will remain that way permanently.

The NRL have stated the license is with the Wests Tigers and no name change will be permitted.

And lastly anyone with half a brain knows the Tiger as an emblem is one of the most powerful in sport. Why Balmain was so sought after for a merger in 1999\. The Wests magpies are not a strong brand, never have been, and is generally associated with losing.

Its not going to happen, nor should it ever happen in a million years. Don't derail a thread with this pointless propaganda.

BB,you have made valid points,however even though the Magpie isnt a strong brand,they werent always associated with losing..they had formidable teams and players in their years and I fondly remember the likes of John Dorahy and Tom Radaonikas….
 
@innsaneink said:
Hahaha… 'Surveys'
Great creative writing.
Hilarious

I not sure what you are on about but how do you think that they came up with the "new" Weststigers logo??

Surveys that's how.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Geez, why would someone mention bringing back the Magpies again. Enough of that crap.

The Wests Tigers Board (and that of Ashfield) have categorically stated the brand is Wests Tigers and will remain that way permanently.

The NRL have stated the license is with the Wests Tigers and no name change will be permitted.

And lastly anyone with half a brain knows the Tiger as an emblem is one of the most powerful in sport. Why Balmain was so sought after for a merger in 1999\. The Wests magpies are not a strong brand, never have been, and is generally associated with losing.

Its not going to happen, nor should it ever happen in a million years. Don't derail a thread with this pointless propaganda.

Not propaganda BB just stating that if someone owns something then they are entitled to put a name on it.

The NRL could not run a chook raffle. If the Wests Board decided to change the name then I would imagine that it would. Rules can be changed you know.

As for the Magpies being associated with losing. That is a load of crap and you know it. That may be your opinion but not of everybody.

Grow up.
 
@magpiecol said:
@innsaneink said:
Hahaha… 'Surveys'
Great creative writing.
Hilarious

I not sure what you are on about but how do you think that they came up with the "new" Weststigers logo??

Surveys that's how.

Or they chose the logo and put it out to survey to gauge reaction or make the fan base feel included. Based on some of the jersey designs they've put to the public in the years gone by compared to what they've released it is a very real possibility.
 
@magpiecol said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Geez, why would someone mention bringing back the Magpies again. Enough of that crap.

The Wests Tigers Board (and that of Ashfield) have categorically stated the brand is Wests Tigers and will remain that way permanently.

The NRL have stated the license is with the Wests Tigers and no name change will be permitted.

And lastly anyone with half a brain knows the Tiger as an emblem is one of the most powerful in sport. Why Balmain was so sought after for a merger in 1999\. The Wests magpies are not a strong brand, never have been, and is generally associated with losing.

Its not going to happen, nor should it ever happen in a million years. Don't derail a thread with this pointless propaganda.

Not propaganda BB just stating that if someone owns something then they are entitled to put a name on it.

The NRL could not run a chook raffle. If the Wests Board decided to change the name then I would imagine that it would. Rules can be changed you know.

As for the Magpies being associated with losing. That is a load of crap and you know it. That may be your opinion but not of everybody.

Grow up.

Hey Col,rules can be changed,but Licensing patents are a different kettle of fish…It would be very difficult to change the WTs brand as it is now..even if a multi billionaire bought the club the licensed brand name would have to stay the same ...it would take a very big process I would imagine to go down that road....
 
Previous Balmain Tigers Club (Rozelle) management pathetically let the Club run into the ground.
The Balmain Tigers are dead & buried.

If/when Wests Ashfield (Magpies) gain 100 percent ownership of the Wests Tigers then, after the current NRL licence expires, they can propose to do whatever they like with the NRL team. Subject to NRL approval they can change the team name, home-ground, jumper design etc. Verbal re-assurances from current Wests Ashfield Magpies management re: keeping the status quo have no value.

IMO I don't think Wests Ashfield will ever propose to remove the "Tigers" name/mascot from the NRL team due to the "Tigers" brand name's great marketing pull, not because of any sentimental loyalty to the soon to be ex-partner.
 
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