BankWest Stadium 🏟

[Furious1]

@Furious1 Think he already has a legacy.

He doesn't owe us nothing.

I know he doesn't owe us anything Russ. Crowe doesn't owe Souths anything either. I was just saying it would be nice is all.

 

[Telltails]

@cochise - so is your concern about corporate dollars or viewing the game? The new improved purpose built stadium at ANZ will be equal in all areas to that of Parramatta and you can guarantee their will be plenty of financial incentives for us to play there. They are not upgrading it for it to not be under utilized.
The motive to suddenly become Parramatta bound because they have a sparkly new stadium makes no sense. It wasnt an option before and is temporary one now until the new stadiums are complete - unless of course you are comfortable playing second fiddle to Parramatta.

 

[cqtiger]

All I know is that I’ve had a gutful of multiple home grounds.

The Libs got re-elected in NSW and their stadia policy was supposed to centre around 3 main stadiums - ANZ, BankWest and Alliance.

I’m sick of the nomadic Tigers.

 

[cochise]

@cochise - so is your concern about corporate dollars or viewing the game? The new improved purpose built stadium at ANZ will be equal in all areas to that of Parramatta and you can guarantee their will be plenty of financial incentives for us to play there. They are not upgrading it for it to not be under utilized.
The motive to suddenly become Parramatta bound because they have a sparkly new stadium makes no sense. It wasnt an option before and is temporary one now until the new stadiums are complete - unless of course you are comfortable playing second fiddle to Parramatta.

It is not a brand new stadium at ANZ, it is a refurbishment of ANZ, no plans for how that stadium will look or work have been released yet. The top tier will will remain as is so will still be a cavernous hole that will still be over half empty the majority of times we would play there.

Why would there be financial incentives to play there over Bankwest? They won't be in competition with each other.

Add to all that, I have concerns about it neing done as work was due to start after the Grand Final but it will still be in use in 2020!

 

[Telltails]

@cochise https://www.anzstadium.com.au/footer/news-and-media/2018/nsw-government-confirms-810-million-redevelopment-of-anz-stadium-into-world-class-rectangular-stadium/
According to this it will be ready for use in 2021 and no doubt will be a much better spectator experience than it currently is.
Not suggesting it is a perfect solution - we all know what that would be - but in terms of attracting corporate dollars it will match and likely surpass what WSS stadium offers which seemed at first to be your major concern.

 

[cochise]

According to this it will be ready for use in 2021 and no doubt will be a much better spectator experience than it currently is.
Not suggesting it is a perfect solution - we all know what that would be - but in terms of attracting corporate dollars it will match and likely surpass what WSS stadium offers which seemed at first to be your major concern.

Yeah, I've seen that, redevelopment is supposed to start after the Grand Final, but that is not happening so that 2021 date is extremely unlikely. It wont be a hugely improved spectator experience as it will be less than half full when we play there. The atmosphere will still be rubbish.

Actually the 1st concern I raised was that it is a rubbish venue that is too big for our needs, the only way to fix it properly is to knock it down and start again. They are not fixing it properly so it will still not meet our needs in its new form.

I would also doubt there would be financial incentives to play there as I'm sure they would prefer us to play at WSS, which will be cheaper to run.

I also do not believe it will bring in equal corporate dollars as it will be less desirable than WSS as it is in the middle of no where and will still be less than half full for our games.

 

[Harvey]

According to this it will be ready for use in 2021 and no doubt will be a much better spectator experience than it currently is.
Not suggesting it is a perfect solution - we all know what that would be - but in terms of attracting corporate dollars it will match and likely surpass what WSS stadium offers which seemed at first to be your major concern.

Yeah, I've seen that, redevelopment is supposed to start after the Grand Final, but that is not happening so that 2021 date is extremely unlikely. It wont be a hugely improved spectator experience as it will be less than half full when we play there. The atmosphere will still be rubbish.

Actually the 1st concern I raised was that it is a rubbish venue that is too big for our needs, the only way to fix it properly is to knock it down and start again. They are not fixing it properly so it will still not meet our needs in its new form.

I would also doubt there would be financial incentives to play there as I'm sure they would prefer us to play at WSS, which will be cheaper to run.

I also do not believe it will bring in equal corporate dollars as it will be less desirable than WSS as it is in the middle of no where and will still be less than half full for our games.

Homebush would be quarter full. Bankwest will be 1/2 full. I am not sure of the financial incentives to play at any of the stadiums, or whether there is a cost incurred through renting them. The corporate dollars will be based on the amount of space available to rent.

A large percentage of the corporate dollars go to the stadium, and not the club (which is what the stadium uses to to offer financial incentives) and those purchasers get access to all games there. Most of the stadiums also offer direct membership which allow you to attend all games there and further fund incentives to attract content to that stadium.

@cochise & @Snake obviously have a liking for the new stadium and a Parramatta base, others have different opinions and would prefer to see what the other options are in 2-3 years time & what each stadium is prepared to pay to get X number of tigers games (along with corporate support and membership that may bring) there per year.

 

[Snake]

@Telltails Have you been to BankWest ? With the refurbishment of ANZ it will still be an 80k plus stadium , club games attracting 15 to 18 k . The one variable that has always been noted is it is a heartless place until there are 40+ there . BankWest now is unrivalled anywhere in the country it is exactly the right size for club footy ....there are NO excuses to not use this facility full time ,I have not read one excuse that does not warrant a full time move there .we as supporters should want the best possible venue and for the club to gain maximum dollar value for using it .. IMO the Tigers do not have a choice moving forward they have to cement a home ground .

 

[innsaneink]

According to this it will be ready for use in 2021 and no doubt will be a much better spectator experience than it currently is.
Not suggesting it is a perfect solution - we all know what that would be - but in terms of attracting corporate dollars it will match and likely surpass what WSS stadium offers which seemed at first to be your major concern.

Yeah, I've seen that, redevelopment is supposed to start after the Grand Final, but that is not happening so that 2021 date is extremely unlikely. It wont be a hugely improved spectator experience as it will be less than half full when we play there. The atmosphere will still be rubbish.

Actually the 1st concern I raised was that it is a rubbish venue that is too big for our needs, the only way to fix it properly is to knock it down and start again. They are not fixing it properly so it will still not meet our needs in its new form.

I would also doubt there would be financial incentives to play there as I'm sure they would prefer us to play at WSS, which will be cheaper to run.

I also do not believe it will bring in equal corporate dollars as it will be less desirable than WSS as it is in the middle of no where and will still be less than half full for our games.

Homebush would be quarter full. Bankwest will be 1/2 full. I am not sure of the financial incentives to play at any of the stadiums, or whether there is a cost incurred through renting them. The corporate dollars will be based on the amount of space available to rent.

A large percentage of the corporate dollars go to the stadium, and not the club (which is what the stadium uses to to offer financial incentives) and those purchasers get access to all games there. Most of the stadiums also offer direct membership which allow you to attend all games there and further fund incentives to attract content to that stadium.

@cochise & @Snake obviously have a liking for the new stadium and a Parramatta base, others have different opinions and would prefer to see what the other options are in 2-3 years time & what each stadium is prepared to pay to get X number of tigers games (along with corporate support and membership that may bring) there per year.

What % of the Corp $$$ go to the stadium /club?

 

[Telltails]

@Snake- I just think its survival of the fittest in the Sydney competition and if we were entering into an equal partnership with Parramatta at this ground well it would be hard to argue - but we are not even close to being on equal terms based at this stadium. Crazy business decision to enter into an equal partnership where clearly things arent equal. Why would WestsAshfield pour money into our club and have no representation at our home ground while Parra Leagues sits there loud and proud.
If we had on going and continued success on the field, there may be grounds to consider it, but if we dont you may as well put us on a platter for Parramatta and let them swallow us.

I believe everything you say about the ground and look forward to watching a game there.

The Bulldogs are in a similar situation to us with their traditional home ground being substandard and are within close proximity to WSS but doubt you will see them making enquiries to make it their home ground.
You will never convince me that its a smart move for our club - in my eyes it actually makes us look more vulnerable, however I respect your opinion and if it goes that way I guess I will have to cop it sweet.

 

[Snake]

@Telltails It is time this issue is debated we all have our own opinions and I respect yours and anyone else’s that have common sense opinions on this matter. I know that I am harping on about it but it is also the fact that multi home grounds just disenfranchise the supporter base and do not see the reasoning the club has to do it at this stage of the club.
The Weststigers have been here for 20 seasons and I believe it is time we had all our Sydney based supporters attending one ground then move forward in a united front .

 

[Telltails]

@Snake - yep know your view snake and also know that big decisions will need to be made
and that I may not like them - wouldnt be the first time. Hoping for a better performance from the team this week after the disaster on Monday and if we can keeping coming back for more after that can probably tolerate just about anything!

 

[cochise]

@Telltails It is time this issue is debated we all have our own opinions and I respect yours and anyone else’s that have common sense opinions on this matter. I know that I am harping on about it but it is also the fact that multi home grounds just disenfranchise the supporter base and do not see the reasoning the club has to do it at this stage of the club.
The Weststigers have been here for 20 seasons and I believe it is time we had all our Sydney based supporters attending one ground then move forward in a united front .

The Bulldogs are taking games there this season so that point is invalid

 

[Telltails]

@cochise - the discussion is about making it a permanent base. Of course while the other stadiums are being renovated all clubs effected will utilise it at some capacity.

 

[Harvey]

@Telltails It is time this issue is debated we all have our own opinions and I respect yours and anyone else’s that have common sense opinions on this matter. I know that I am harping on about it but it is also the fact that multi home grounds just disenfranchise the supporter base and do not see the reasoning the club has to do it at this stage of the club.
The Weststigers have been here for 20 seasons and I believe it is time we had all our Sydney based supporters attending one ground then move forward in a united front .

The Bulldogs are taking games there this season so that point is invalid

They are taking one home game (against Penrith) there. They also play Parramatta there, but that is Parra's home game so (unlike us) they had no choice in the matter.

 

[cochise]

@Telltails the Bulldogs are taking games there this year before the refurbishment of ANZ begins. There hasn't even been a date announced for the start of the refurbishment and it is already months behind the stated late 2019 start date.

 

[cochise]

@Telltails It is time this issue is debated we all have our own opinions and I respect yours and anyone else’s that have common sense opinions on this matter. I know that I am harping on about it but it is also the fact that multi home grounds just disenfranchise the supporter base and do not see the reasoning the club has to do it at this stage of the club.
The Weststigers have been here for 20 seasons and I believe it is time we had all our Sydney based supporters attending one ground then move forward in a united front .

The Bulldogs are taking games there this season so that point is invalid

They are taking one home game (against Penrith) there. They also play Parramatta there, but that is Parra's home game so (unlike us) they had no choice in the matter.

Yes they are only taking one home game there but it was stated by another user that he doubted that the Bulldogs would make enquiries about using it as a home ground which is rubbish because they have already made a decision to do so.

 

[cochise]

Maybe you guys are correct and Bankwest will not be suitable for the Wests Tigers to use as a home round but we have not even played a home game at the venue yet so I think it is too soon to be writing it off as an option.

 

[2005magic]

Part of the problem as I see it is that there is no NRL guidance on playing grounds. If the NRL say that they will only now support the use of 3 stadiums across Sydney for all the NRL Sydney based clubs to share and its for the clubs to work out what stadium will be their home base, fine I can live with that.

There will be Moore Park, Homebush and WSS to be shared amongst Panthers, Eels, WT, Bulldogs, Saints, Rabbits, Roosters, Sea Eagles, Sharks and Dragons. You could possibly make an argument for 1 more stadium but that would depend on business case and finance.

But, as per current thinking, or lack of it, there are a few stadiums plus XX number of local club specific home grounds. Parramatta Stadium has now been rebuilt with Cwth and State govt $$$ into the WSS- but it is still to all intents and purpose Parra Stadium.

I can see the value in shared stadiums: better facilities than the club specific home grounds and reduced maintenance and eventual upgrade costs by the fact its shared usage BUT, not at the expense of our identity and home ground feel if we are some of the only few doing it. I know we are at the moment a bunch of wandering minstrels now with multiple home grounds (Leichhardt, Campbelltown & Homebush) now also with occassional shows at WSS and Tamworth but geez, we are giving a lot of home ground feel way compared to a lot of the others.

 

[cochise]

Part of the problem as I see it is that there is no NRL guidance on playing grounds. If the NRL say that they will only now support the use of 3 stadiums across Sydney for all the NRL Sydney based clubs to share and its for the clubs to work out what stadium will be their home base, fine I can live with that.

There will be Moore Park, Homebush and WSS to be shared amongst Panthers, Eels, WT, Bulldogs, Saints, Rabbits, Roosters, Sea Eagles, Sharks and Dragons. You could possibly make an argument for 1 more stadium but that would depend on business case and finance.

But, as per current thinking, or lack of it, there are a few stadiums plus XX number of local club specific home grounds. Parramatta Stadium has now been rebuilt with Cwth and State govt $$$ into the WSS- but it is still to all intents and purpose Parra Stadium.

I can see the value in shared stadiums: better facilities than the club specific home grounds and reduced maintenance and eventual upgrade costs by the fact its shared usage BUT, not at the expense of our identity and home ground feel if we are some of the only few doing it. I know we are at the moment a bunch of wandering minstrels now with multiple home grounds (Leichhardt, Campbelltown & Homebush) now also with occassional shows at WSS and Tamworth but geez, we are giving a lot of home ground feel way compared to a lot of the others.

We gave our home ground feel away years ago the only way to get it back now it is to turn Bankwest into as much of a home ground for us as it is for Parramatta.