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Basket Cases
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supercoach
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Good call Milky, he would certainly be better than what we have
Tiger_Steve
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It’s obvious DCE is bad news but from all accounts Hastings runs a close second. No DH policy - stick to your values
Byron_Bay_Fan
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/andrew-johns-reveals-radical-plan-to-slash-nrl-to-12-team-competition/news-story/b196bf40dc82623f979a93bf4cb5f69b
Andrew Johns reckons the basket teams should be euthanized to make room for more foreign state teams.
Andrew Johns reckons the basket teams should be euthanized to make room for more foreign state teams.
GNR4LIFE
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He’s no saint, regardless of DCE. Left the Roosters in similar fashion.
clifferdSH
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Joey: We need to make it a true national competition, while lowering the number of teams to 12
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10 seconds later
Joey: We need a 2nd team in New Zealand and a 2nd team in Brisbane
Not the brightest spark is he
KICK MANLY OUT..
The_Patriot
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Funny how these ARL guys come around to these Super League kind of ideas.
Its not a bad idea, not sure he has the number right and all that but its at least creating discussion.
I always liked the idea of Balmain, Wests and the Bulldogs merging back in the day.
Its not a bad idea, not sure he has the number right and all that but its at least creating discussion.
I always liked the idea of Balmain, Wests and the Bulldogs merging back in the day.
The_Patriot
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But in saying that we have already merged so they can go jump. Merge the others!
The_Patriot
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Wollongong Wobbygongs
Sydney City Central Station Bums
North Sydney Hobb Nobs
Blacktown Bogans
There, all sorted lol
851
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Newcastle have won the last 3 wooden spoons, that right there is basket case material
jirskyr
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Problem is Joey suggests to cull Sydney teams from 9 to 4, and add another QLD team in Brisbane or Rocky.
Problem is the popoulation maths doesn't add up.
Sydney' population in 2017 according to ABS was 4.74M. That's 527K people per team. Population of Newcastle and Maitland combined is 481K, so that's less people per team than Sydney currently accommodates.
Population of Rocky is 79K, so just 15% of the theoretical population distribution for each Sydney team.
At a state level, NSW has 7.79M and carries 10 teams (excluding Raiders) = 779K per side. QLD has 5M flat and just 3 teams, so 1.7M theoretical people per side.
So there is a fair argument that expansion in QLD is a good idea, however I can't see it being anywhere apart from Brisbane, because the other towns are too small. Two teams in Brisbane, pop of 2.3M, would supply 1.15M per side, around double that of the current Sydney sides.
But then you ask the question, do we really need to grow the game in NSW and QLD? Do we need to sure up support in our heartlands, or expand the game to new markets?
If you are a "new market" person then Perth and Adelaide are no-brainers - you just have to be willing to spend 30 years creating a niche market before you start to entrench yourself into parts of the local culture, like AFL in Sydney.
Wellington has only 200K people, so whilst it's a potential rugby league location, it would be one of the smallest cities supporting an NRL team - only 20K bigger than Townsville. Obv it has advantages being the capital, but you must question why not a second Auckland team, when they have a population of 1.57M and one single side. Perhaps even a Hamilton team - 157K people but only 2h down the road from the South Auckland League heartland.
You might want to talk nation-wide or Pacific-region viewing public, but these teams need someone to support first. You are hardly going to get much die-hard support from people expected to follow new sides that are 3h drive from their current location.
Then there's a reason why we don't just pull in Tongan and PNG teams into the comp - lack of population in the Pacific (107K in Tonga, 900K in Fiji, 8M in PNG) but more specifically lack of spending money. You are again looking at splashing out in big markets where there is spending money to follow football. That's almost all Australia if you are ticking boxes.
Where did AFL expand into, once they moved beyond the VFL? Perth, Adelaide, Sydney, Brisbane. Second teams eventually in Fremantle and Adelaide where there was already a very strong AFL following since the game's inception. Now Gold Coast and a second Sydney team, but those are still very large markets.
Problem is the popoulation maths doesn't add up.
Sydney' population in 2017 according to ABS was 4.74M. That's 527K people per team. Population of Newcastle and Maitland combined is 481K, so that's less people per team than Sydney currently accommodates.
Population of Rocky is 79K, so just 15% of the theoretical population distribution for each Sydney team.
At a state level, NSW has 7.79M and carries 10 teams (excluding Raiders) = 779K per side. QLD has 5M flat and just 3 teams, so 1.7M theoretical people per side.
So there is a fair argument that expansion in QLD is a good idea, however I can't see it being anywhere apart from Brisbane, because the other towns are too small. Two teams in Brisbane, pop of 2.3M, would supply 1.15M per side, around double that of the current Sydney sides.
But then you ask the question, do we really need to grow the game in NSW and QLD? Do we need to sure up support in our heartlands, or expand the game to new markets?
If you are a "new market" person then Perth and Adelaide are no-brainers - you just have to be willing to spend 30 years creating a niche market before you start to entrench yourself into parts of the local culture, like AFL in Sydney.
Wellington has only 200K people, so whilst it's a potential rugby league location, it would be one of the smallest cities supporting an NRL team - only 20K bigger than Townsville. Obv it has advantages being the capital, but you must question why not a second Auckland team, when they have a population of 1.57M and one single side. Perhaps even a Hamilton team - 157K people but only 2h down the road from the South Auckland League heartland.
You might want to talk nation-wide or Pacific-region viewing public, but these teams need someone to support first. You are hardly going to get much die-hard support from people expected to follow new sides that are 3h drive from their current location.
Then there's a reason why we don't just pull in Tongan and PNG teams into the comp - lack of population in the Pacific (107K in Tonga, 900K in Fiji, 8M in PNG) but more specifically lack of spending money. You are again looking at splashing out in big markets where there is spending money to follow football. That's almost all Australia if you are ticking boxes.
Where did AFL expand into, once they moved beyond the VFL? Perth, Adelaide, Sydney, Brisbane. Second teams eventually in Fremantle and Adelaide where there was already a very strong AFL following since the game's inception. Now Gold Coast and a second Sydney team, but those are still very large markets.
goldcoast_tiger
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When a team has to drop out, it WILL be a Sydney team that goes.
That what they have always wanted,
Whether we agree about it or not.
If makes absolutely no sense in getting rid of a team from outside of Sydney as there is just too many Teams here, no one can seriously deny that.
The only way it will be avoided will be if someone amalgamates, or moves.
That what they have always wanted,
Whether we agree about it or not.
If makes absolutely no sense in getting rid of a team from outside of Sydney as there is just too many Teams here, no one can seriously deny that.
The only way it will be avoided will be if someone amalgamates, or moves.
clifferdSH
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I actually think PNG in the nrl would work. Their world cup was a huge success with huge crowds. Could imagine theyd get sell outs every week, get an upgraded stadium, sell heaps of merch and they could easily be a profitable club
Do agree we should work in our own back yard first. I'd go with Perth, nine/foxsports would salivate at the mouth over a 7pm Sunday night (4pm kick off Perth) aswell as huge sponsorship deals. Basically a gold mine waiting to be dug
goldcoast_tiger
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Got news for you, he’s right about needing another team in Brisbane !
There are just as many if not more people who detest the Broncos up here, and they would have no problem with getting them to a game every second week,
It’s crazy when there is no game here , when the Broncos are away,
One of the best grounds in the NRLjust sits idle ; while others in Sydney look like a ghost town ,most of the town
