Tom Shines
Well-known member
It’s our Achilles heal. We started the year with a pretty weak pack. Samuela and Pole haven’t had great seasons, May can’t do it all.
Twal and Seyfarth ?
Or are expectations so low they don’t require mentioning?
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It’s our Achilles heal. We started the year with a pretty weak pack. Samuela and Pole haven’t had great seasons, May can’t do it all.
They wouldn’t start at a competitive club.Twal and Seyfarth ?
Or are expectations so low they don’t require mentioning?
Don’t include Bateman and clemer. We wanted them gone more than they wanted to leave. Galvin and desilva two possible 1st graders, for reasons well documented is not alarming. Unless I have missed some recently. Or are you going back to last year with steph and paps, cause we are getting a better performance out of their replacements than their current clubs are getting out of them.If that’s the ultimatum that’s being put to the players, an alarming amount are opting out.
So assuming the rumoured contract values that are floated around are correct and both of them are paid 400k per season, what players for that same value or less would you be bringing in to replace them and do a better job ?Twal and Seyfarth ?
Or are expectations so low they don’t require mentioning?
I understand your point but too often Twal or Seyfarh make a silly error or penalty at a crucial stage. If you’re just an honest toiler you can’t have too many of those in you. More Red than Twal, I see a spot for Twal in most rosters.So assuming the rumoured contract values that are floated around are correct t and both of them are paid 400k per season, what players for that same value or less would you be bringing in to replace them and do a better job ?
Keep in mind mind they are both work rate based players that are not on the team to make a big impact, they are in the team to do plenty of tackling and hold their own while our big money players are the ones who are supposed to be coming up with big plays that can help influence or win us games.
I say this as I don’t believe they are the problem, they generally do their job, nothing more, nothing less and they are paid accordingly.
It would be nice if we could have superstars for all 17 players, come to think of it I would be happy if we could have just one superstar on our roster, but the ping is the Salary Cap is supposed to stop any NRL team from having start players from 1-17.
As an example if we bought Josh King or Corey Jensen, even Max King or Lindsay Smith into our team instead of Twal or Seyfarth, they would likely cost us a little bit more for starters, but are those players going to take us from the position we are currently in to the top 8 on their own ?
These type of hardworking, no frills, run of the mill players type of players are required at every club to give their team balance and allow them to effectively manage their salary cap.
I agree he’s a good solid player that does his job, not much different to Alex Twal though.I would sign Corey Jensen from the Broncos in a heart beat. Experienced no nonsense prop good for another season at least.
For me Samuela disappointing but think he might be suffering second year syndrome after his breakout 2024. Similar thing has happened to Bula after a great first season.It’s our Achilles heal. We started the year with a pretty weak pack. Samuela and Pole haven’t had great seasons, May can’t do it all.
He’s also still a kid, I certainly wouldn’t give up on him. Pole is still young too. It’s sometimes lost how many kids we have in FG.For me Samuela disappointing but think he might be suffering second year syndrome after his breakout 2024. Similar thing has happened to Bula after a great first season.
Hopefully they learn from it and make the necessary adjustments.
another thing lost is Benji said he was building a team for 27 , not today or yesterdayHe’s also still a kid, I certainly wouldn’t give up on him. Pole is still young too. It’s sometimes lost how many kids we have in FG.
We have to have a focus on getting better now or Luai and Api probably pull the pin and we’re back to ground zero. At least the bloke running the show is not a clown like the guy before him. Gives me some hope.another thing lost is Benji said he was building a team for 27 , not today or yesterday
if Richo can't turn it around in another 2 1/2 ,3 yrs , id be happy to vote for a sale of the clubWe have to have a focus on getting better now or Luai and Api probably pull the pin and we’re back to ground zero. At least the bloke running the show is not a clown like the guy before him. Gives me some hope.
And how many we’ve got rid of !!!!’He’s also still a kid, I certainly wouldn’t give up on him. Pole is still young too. It’s sometimes lost how many kids we have in FG.
Given the club just bent over backwards for Api, I can’t see it. Though, nothing surprises me with us.We have to have a focus on getting better now or Luai and Api probably pull the pin and we’re back to ground zero. At least the bloke running the show is not a clown like the guy before him. Gives me some hope.
So they probably should have.Given the club just bent over backwards for Api, I can’t see it. Though, nothing surprises me with us.
AgreeHe’s also still a kid, I certainly wouldn’t give up on him. Pole is still young too. It’s sometimes lost how many kids we have in FG.
It’s not second year syndrome. He had a break out year with Manly and followed that up last year. This is definitely down to the changes in the spine and how best to use him. Luai used to have Kikau outside him; is Sam similar but younger I actually think he is. he isn’t your Olakakoatu tackle breaker, he is a worker and a hard runner with aggression and a bit of skill on top of that. In time you’ll see.For me Samuela disappointing but think he might be suffering second year syndrome after his breakout 2024. Similar thing has happened to Bula after a great first season.
Hopefully they learn from it and make the necessary adjustments.
He's also not having as down a year as people are suggesting.It’s not second year syndrome. He had a break out year with Manly and followed that up last year. This is definitely down to the changes in the spine and how best to use him. Luai used to have Kikau outside him; is Sam similar but younger I actually think he is. he isn’t your Olakakoatu tackle breaker, he is a worker and a hard runner with aggression and a bit of skill on top of that. In time you’ll see.
Probably not. I think he just set a high bar for himself last year.He's also not having as down a year as people are suggesting.