Benji Marshall #70

[diedpretty]

Not sure why the club is in "the bad books" given no one else is seems to be interested in picking him up

Mate we are in the bad books for "low balling" Alex Johnston too . Never heard of the journo and sure as hell never read the Daily Mail. One thing i will say is when you get a club as well supported as ours, it's easy clicks and that equals lazy "journalism" (i use that term very loosely)

But on a brighter note the Telegraph is now slamming the Eels for letting Papenhuyzen slip through their fingers. So funny after they have slammed us continually for the same thing. Guess they have to find something controversial for the semi matchup.

 

[Strider]

I don't like articles without quotes, they need to make sure to label these things an 'opinion piece'

 

[jadtiger]

I don't like articles without quotes, they need to make sure to label these things an 'opinion piece'

Everything in the telecrap is an opinion piece there are no facts from the front page to the back page just agenda from the murdoch empire

 

[JD Tiger]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

 

[mike]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

I don’t know the internal processes but you would hope it would covered by injury insurance if employed at the time of the injury.

 

[JD Tiger]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

I don’t know the internal processes but you would hope it would covered by injury insurance if employed at the time of the injury.

Hopefully. I'm thinking it could be a way to open up cheating around the cap. Clubs could do a deal with players to pretty up their teeth, or do cosmetic operations after they retire as a way of offering incentives around the cap.

 

[cochise]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

Medical treatment for injuries does not fall under the cap.

 

[Geo]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

Medical costs and rehabilitation doesn’t fall under the salary cap

Clubs and players have medical insurance

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

It's not a great endorsement when a club that hasn't made the finals in 9 years, 3 of which you were a part of, decides to not sign you again.

It's going to be an unpopular opinion as I know many don't rate Reynolds, but our best patch of football this year was the four week period where we played Canberra, Penrith, Cowboys and Bulldogs, and Grub and Brooks were our halves. Individually Grub may not be a great player, but he appeared to work better with the team around him.

Grub got dropped after the Souths game, Benji came back in, and despite the supposed emphasis on defence which is what Grub got axed for after the Souths game (and Benji before him,) Benji continued to have a very ordinary season in defence and never got dropped again for it.

 

[Geo]

If by axed you mean suspended for 2 games then yeah

 

[tig_prmz]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

It would go along the lines of the Alex McKinnon thing.

His rehabilitation costs would have been astronomical and extend way beyond his contract. The Knights gave him some assistance but I don't think they were obligated to do so beyond in terms of contract.

Benji's injuries aren't that bad. Broken ribs will fix itself and MCL will heal itself and will require rehab for 6-8 weeks max. I don't think the bill would be anything more than 1% of Benji' actual income.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If by axed you mean suspended for 2 games then yeah

Yes he was suspended, should have clarified that.

But he was not brought straight back in was he? And Marshall has been woeful in defence all year and was never dropped again. I feel we lost a good dynamic that Grub and Brooks appeared to have.

 

[Spartan117]

Sort of on topic, I hope JRey plays out of his skin to try and earn his next contract in 2021 now that Benji is gone.

 

[cochise]

There's a conundrum that's been in my head for a few days now. What happens when a player is injured towards the end of their season, (like Benji was in his last game for us). Surely it's the clubs responsibility to rehabilitate the player, for a long as the injury takes to heal. Say if the injury takes several months to rehabilitate, (like Benji's might) say specifically that it takes longer to heal and will still require treatment after the football year has ended (after October 31st).

Come November 1, if the player's injury still requires treatment, if they were with another club I presume the new club would take over responsibility of treatment of that injury. But if that player had retired (or not signed with another club yet) then surely the club he was playing for when he was injured would still be responsible for treating the injury. They wouldn't just say it's November 1 now, on your bike, fix your problem yourself. So if the Wests Tigers for example are still providing treatment to Benji in November, would he still be on our books in regards to playing roster for the new season? He would be still receiving resources that were allocated to the football side. Even if we referred him to a private medical centre where he could receive treatment, if we still had to pay, then surely it would still come under umbrella? Or does he then have to pay out of his pocket for the injury rehab, which doesn't seem fair to me at all.

I just don't want us to get into cap trouble. I can see the headline now, Wests Tigers busted for cap cheating, assisting player after they retire.

It would go along the lines of the Alex McKinnon thing.

His rehabilitation costs would have been astronomical and extend way beyond his contract. The Knights gave him some assistance but I don't think they were obligated to do so beyond in terms of contract.

Benji's injuries aren't that bad. Broken ribs will fix itself and MCL will heal itself and will require rehab for 6-8 weeks max. I don't think the bill would be anything more than 1% of Benji' actual income.

Of course they were obliged to assist Alex beyond his contract, he was hurt performing the duties he was employed for. The NRL was also obliged to assist has he was hurt in a competition that was ran by them.

 

[cochise]

If by axed you mean suspended for 2 games then yeah

Yes he was suspended, should have clarified that.

But he was not brought straight back in was he? And Marshall has been woeful in defence all year and was never dropped again. I feel we lost a good dynamic that Grub and Brooks appeared to have.

He was terrible in the games he played.

 

[Tiger5150]

If by axed you mean suspended for 2 games then yeah

Yes he was suspended, should have clarified that.

But he was not brought straight back in was he? And Marshall has been woeful in defence all year and was never dropped again. I feel we lost a good dynamic that Grub and Brooks appeared to have.

I am not a Reynolds fan, and as bad as Benji was in defence, he ended up close to topping the NRL in Try Assists and Reynolds was never going to do that. I agree we played well in that period that you are talking about but IMO Reynolds contribution (when he did it properly) was catch pass and not get in the way. I never remember him contributing significantly.

We also dont know what is going on on the training paddock. We dont know what Reynolds attitude has been like, although we may have been given a glimpse at Brookvale.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

That Humpty was a real piece of work ?

Now he's doing to Manly what he did to us.
He's good at it as he has 8 children.

Grant Mayer wasnt far behind either lol

Numbnut

Thats being kind

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

That Humpty was a real piece of work ?

Now he's doing to Manly what he did to us.
He's good at it as he has 8 children.

Apparently one of them is a rising star in the Manly system

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Time to move on from Benji nearly ever thread contains the words was or did its all history he's 35 lets move on

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If by axed you mean suspended for 2 games then yeah

Yes he was suspended, should have clarified that.

But he was not brought straight back in was he? And Marshall has been woeful in defence all year and was never dropped again. I feel we lost a good dynamic that Grub and Brooks appeared to have.


I am not a Reynolds fan, and as bad as Benji was in defence, he ended up close to topping the NRL in Try Assists and Reynolds was never going to do that. I agree we played well in that period that you are talking about but IMO Reynolds contribution (when he did it properly) was catch pass and not get in the way. I never remember him contributing significantly.

We also dont know what is going on on the training paddock. We dont know what Reynolds attitude has been like, although we may have been given a glimpse at Brookvale.

Yes, as I said individually he is not the player that Benji is, I feel that the team worked better with him there though.

Anyway my point is that what was arguably the best period we played this year with some pretty complete performances, Benji was not a part of that.