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@JoshColeman99 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241029) said:@cochise said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241017) said:@Furious1 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241013) said:@cochise said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241012) said:@Furious1 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241011) said:@cochise said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241008) said:@Furious1 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1241007) said:@Russell said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1240994) said:@Furious1 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1240982) said:@mike said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1240979) said:@Furious1 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1240976) said:I don't really understand the issue. He is disappointed to not be renewed ( fair enough), bitterly disappointed he found out through the media ( disgraceful really) and wants to play on. He was ( and still may be, i'm too lazy to look) leading the NRL in try assists. Not bad for a 35 year old. The guy is a horrible defensive player, but put that attacking statistic into perspective. A man who is 35 years old and plays in the team that came 11th has/had more try assists then at least four SOO halves who are at the peak of their powers. Players that are playing in far better teams then ours.
Now there is no doubt in my mind that Benji will be a defensive liability wherever he ends up and the media would never have allowed him to be a second stringer here, but he will be a handy pick up for a club where he will be allowed to fulfill that role. The fact on Saturday night he made it about Lawrence and not himself knowing Chris would never play another game is a good thing. He didn't want his family with him because like any other player that is changing clubs, it's not the end.He has every right to play on. They will be with him when he does hang up the boots. For those saying he is sulking, i don't see it. I see a guy who is filthy at finding out through the media he is being moved on and rightly so. And quite frankly he is not the only player treated extremely poorly by our club in the last month. There's a starting point for what we are stand for as opposed to what we should stand for. (another topic i know)
Benji’s disappointment and anger should be directed at his management and not the Wests Tigers. I have very little doubt that his management were responsible for the leaks and why he found out through the press, with his management trying to put pressure on the Wests Tigers to re-sign Benji which blew up in Benji’s managements faces.
You don't think it's strange that a player reads something, goes to the HEAD coach and basically says WTF? to be told give me 24 hrs and i'll let you know? Surely Madge knew. Even if the manager leaked it, at least have the balls when you get confronted to own up. Like i said elsewhere, you can't expect honesty and accountability if you don't abide by the same ethos.
Madge probably knew that he was not going to be renewed - however he would have had to consult with Hartigan and Pascoe, especially when it concerned a club legend. He couldn't just take it upon himself to say "You're out!"
**I don't think Madge would have been afraid to say anything at all to him**.
Not so sure on that Russ. One of the criticisms of Madge has actually been that he doesn't tell players things. There has also been some shenanigans going on with other not so big name players being told things multiple times only to have it changed a few weeks later. There is a disconnect there somewhere.
So a guy that many are claiming is too hard on players is now scared to have tough conversations, that makes no sense to me.
An exert from the Sydney Morning herald
By Michael Chammas
September 1, 2020 — 7.58pm
There's also a perception among the playing group that the coach avoids confrontation. It was evident again during the week when Marshall walked into Maguire's office on Monday and strongly suggested he should play on in 2021 at the Tigers.
Maguire, despite playing a leading hand in the decision not to extend the club legend, left the door ajar and told Marshall to give him 24 hours to see if he could do anything else.
That doesn't make it fact, how do you think the media got all this info?
Sorry mate added a bit more while you were replying. I don't know it's fact. You told me Maguire not being direct didn't make sense to you, and i gave you a snippet to support my argument of that perception. I have also been told by a current player the same things. Doesn't make it fact either. So just believe what you will.
Yeah, I just find it really strange that someone who has a rep for pushing players too hard also avoids confrontation. I have known some hard coaches and managers over the years and not one of them was scared to have those conversations, in fact most of them were too blunt and burnt relationships.
It was also evident when Benji was dropped earlier in the year that he clearly knew that defense was the issue and he spoke about how he liked how honest Madge was when they spoke. I absolutely love Benji and I am always defending him, to the point of being ridiculed but something smells fishy here.
Literally every player says Madge is extremely honest with them in interviews without even being asked most of the time. He does not seem like a guy who’s scared to talk to his players it goes against everything the bloke is about.
Exactly