Benji Marshall #70

@thedaboss said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488547) said:
Okay here me out

Benji coaches west tigers in attack

Nec minit we see twal doing benji stepping and flicks all game 😅😅

Twal starts scoring tries 👀
 
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488540) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488537) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488533) said:
@gnr4life said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488443) said:
@jadtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488438) said:
I doubt if Benji would be a good coach because everything that he did on the field seemed to be a spur of the moment decision.He always had trouble playing within a structure and this was always both his greatest strength and biggest weakness.

There’s this great misconception that great players will automatically make great coaches. That’s almost never the case. The two best coaches in the game were average players. Robinson and Bellamy.

Benji couldn't teach what he did ..it was mainly instinctive and lacked patience .....wasn't real good at getting 3 or 4 repeat sets in a row ......

Didn't need to, he would either score a solo try or try assist from 40m +!

And what happened after 2011 ...

We as a club sucked. Whether Benji was here or not.
 
@frullens said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488503) said:
@tyga said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488467) said:
Wise decision to bring Benji back for many reasons. He and Farah would bridge a gap between Madge being hard lined and also help key positions hooker, halves. Wouldn’t hurt with recruiting if he’s on the coaching staff in some capacity.

How would behind go with madge?

Widely reporting Beijing was furious about not being extended at WT last year and I think he blamed it on madge

Also notice how the leaking from players seems to have stopped since benji left.

I think it would be great to have him back at WT but only if he supports the coach and pulls in the same direction

I don’t think I Madge will be getting much say on support staff based on the new structure. In reality Madge needs help at the Tigers.

Not sure he would want to come back tbh but if he does it’s fairly obvious they wanted Brooks and douihei to take charge without Benji. I don’t think him not signing was a personal matter.
 
@kiwitiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488572) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488540) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488537) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488533) said:
@gnr4life said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488443) said:
@jadtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488438) said:
I doubt if Benji would be a good coach because everything that he did on the field seemed to be a spur of the moment decision.He always had trouble playing within a structure and this was always both his greatest strength and biggest weakness.

There’s this great misconception that great players will automatically make great coaches. That’s almost never the case. The two best coaches in the game were average players. Robinson and Bellamy.

Benji couldn't teach what he did ..it was mainly instinctive and lacked patience .....wasn't real good at getting 3 or 4 repeat sets in a row ......

Didn't need to, he would either score a solo try or try assist from 40m +!

And what happened after 2011 ...

We as a club sucked. Whether Benji was here or not.


True

Which is what is p ing me off little with some "journo's" and their tripe about 2021 Benji, - how good, how bad WT and we heartlessly and stupidly let him go etc etc.

Im not talking history - I'm all for Benji is his previous iteration one of the best - but let's be honest here.

If Benji was with WT this year - we still finish where we finished.
If Benji WASNT with the Wabitts - they still finish where they did.

In 2021, Benji was a mere passenger, Souths were good enough to carry him - we weren't.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488535) said:
@jrtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488527) said:
Benji won't return to a coaching role at WT until Madge is gone. Lee's in fairyland.

Then again surely Sheens knows the 2 biggest instigators in him getting the boot were Farah and Marshall .....

To be fair, Sheens had completely lost the plot by then.
Surprised he wasn’t committed to a padded cell, the way he was carrying on.
 
@dazza65 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488595) said:
@kiwitiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488572) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488540) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488537) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488533) said:
@gnr4life said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488443) said:
@jadtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488438) said:
I doubt if Benji would be a good coach because everything that he did on the field seemed to be a spur of the moment decision.He always had trouble playing within a structure and this was always both his greatest strength and biggest weakness.

There’s this great misconception that great players will automatically make great coaches. That’s almost never the case. The two best coaches in the game were average players. Robinson and Bellamy.

Benji couldn't teach what he did ..it was mainly instinctive and lacked patience .....wasn't real good at getting 3 or 4 repeat sets in a row ......

Didn't need to, he would either score a solo try or try assist from 40m +!

And what happened after 2011 ...

We as a club sucked. Whether Benji was here or not.


True

Which is what is p ing me off little with some "journo's" and their tripe about 2021 Benji, - how good, how bad WT and we heartlessly and stupidly let him go etc etc.

Im not talking history - I'm all for Benji is his previous iteration one of the best - but let's be honest here.

If Benji was with WT this year - we still finish where we finished.
If Benji WASNT with the Wabitts - they still finish where they did.

In 2021, Benji was a mere passenger, Souths were good enough to carry him - we weren't.

No, he won them a couple of games mid season with starring roles off the bench. He gets us wins v Warriors and Cowboys and we make the 8.
 
@plisskin said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488621) said:
@dazza65 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488595) said:
@kiwitiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488572) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488540) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488537) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488533) said:
@gnr4life said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488443) said:
@jadtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488438) said:
I doubt if Benji would be a good coach because everything that he did on the field seemed to be a spur of the moment decision.He always had trouble playing within a structure and this was always both his greatest strength and biggest weakness.

There’s this great misconception that great players will automatically make great coaches. That’s almost never the case. The two best coaches in the game were average players. Robinson and Bellamy.

Benji couldn't teach what he did ..it was mainly instinctive and lacked patience .....wasn't real good at getting 3 or 4 repeat sets in a row ......

Didn't need to, he would either score a solo try or try assist from 40m +!

And what happened after 2011 ...

We as a club sucked. Whether Benji was here or not.


True

Which is what is p ing me off little with some "journo's" and their tripe about 2021 Benji, - how good, how bad WT and we heartlessly and stupidly let him go etc etc.

Im not talking history - I'm all for Benji is his previous iteration one of the best - but let's be honest here.

If Benji was with WT this year - we still finish where we finished.
If Benji WASNT with the Wabitts - they still finish where they did.

In 2021, Benji was a mere passenger, Souths were good enough to carry him - we weren't.

No, he won them a couple of games mid season with starring roles off the bench. He gets us wins v Warriors and Cowboys and we make the 8.

Meh. As with anything, open to personal interpretation-
He may have won us those two games but based on his form the last few years he would have overplayed his hand and we would have lost another two.
I say no.
 
![Screenshot_20211007-172858_Instagram.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1633588167940-screenshot_20211007-172858_instagram.jpg)
 
Think some are entirely missing the point. Most articles are simply highlighting that his evolution as a player is a huge testament to his character and dedication to the game. It really has nothing to do with an anti-WT agenda.
The current NRL format is brutal and has become survival of the fittest, so his longevity is a proud achievement.

Plus despite his history with the club, and the varied states or strength/quality of the WTs teams, he's still considered a great playmaker and legend of the game regardless.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/10/07/attacking-force-of-nature-benjis-amazing-career-by-the-numbers/

*But as he blossomed into a top-line controlling half, his kicking and passing games flourished. From 2009 to 2012 Marshall registered 106 try assists – 19 more than the next best Johnathan Thurston (87).*

*He finishes his career with 261 try assists, 770 tackle busts, 96 tries and 121 line breaks. In the era of detailed record-keeping (2003-present) of these stats, only Thurston (324) and Cooper Cronk (283) are credited with more try-assists.*

*And among just halves, only Thurston has more busts (806) and line-breaks (153) while only Cronk (101) has more tries.*

![alt text](https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/2021/theplayoffs---week-4-grand-final/benji-stats_20211006.jpg?center=0.3%2C0.5&preset=photo-inline-small)
 
@lauren said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488631) said:
Think some are entirely missing the point. Most articles are simply highlighting that his evolution as a player is a huge testament to his character and dedication to the game. It really has nothing to do with an anti-WT agenda.
The current NRL format is brutal and has become survival of the fittest, so his longevity is a proud achievement.

Plus despite his history with the club, and the varied states or strength/quality of the WTs teams, he's still considered a great playmaker and legend of the game regardless.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/10/07/attacking-force-of-nature-benjis-amazing-career-by-the-numbers/

*But as he blossomed into a top-line controlling half, his kicking and passing games flourished. From 2009 to 2012 Marshall registered 106 try assists – 19 more than the next best Johnathan Thurston (87).*

*He finishes his career with 261 try assists, 770 tackle busts, 96 tries and 121 line breaks. In the era of detailed record-keeping (2003-present) of these stats, only Thurston (324) and Cooper Cronk (283) are credited with more try-assists.*

*And among just halves, only Thurston has more busts (806) and line-breaks (153) while only Cronk (101) has more tries.*

![alt text](https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/2021/theplayoffs---week-4-grand-final/benji-stats_20211006.jpg?center=0.3%2C0.5&preset=photo-inline-small)

Wow 2005 was a freak year for him. He played for 19 years but 1/6th of all his tries and line breaks were in the one year.
 
@dazza65 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488626) said:
@plisskin said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488621) said:
@dazza65 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488595) said:
@kiwitiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488572) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488540) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488537) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488533) said:
@gnr4life said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488443) said:
@jadtiger said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488438) said:
I doubt if Benji would be a good coach because everything that he did on the field seemed to be a spur of the moment decision.He always had trouble playing within a structure and this was always both his greatest strength and biggest weakness.

There’s this great misconception that great players will automatically make great coaches. That’s almost never the case. The two best coaches in the game were average players. Robinson and Bellamy.

Benji couldn't teach what he did ..it was mainly instinctive and lacked patience .....wasn't real good at getting 3 or 4 repeat sets in a row ......

Didn't need to, he would either score a solo try or try assist from 40m +!

And what happened after 2011 ...

We as a club sucked. Whether Benji was here or not.


True

Which is what is p ing me off little with some "journo's" and their tripe about 2021 Benji, - how good, how bad WT and we heartlessly and stupidly let him go etc etc.

Im not talking history - I'm all for Benji is his previous iteration one of the best - but let's be honest here.

If Benji was with WT this year - we still finish where we finished.
If Benji WASNT with the Wabitts - they still finish where they did.

In 2021, Benji was a mere passenger, Souths were good enough to carry him - we weren't.

No, he won them a couple of games mid season with starring roles off the bench. He gets us wins v Warriors and Cowboys and we make the 8.

Meh. As with anything, open to personal interpretation-
He may have won us those two games but based on his form the last few years he would have overplayed his hand and we would have lost another two.
I say no.

Certainly possible, either way.
 
![Screenshot_20211007-174346_Instagram.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1633589068537-screenshot_20211007-174346_instagram.jpg)
 
@demps said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488642) said:
![Screenshot_20211007-174346_Instagram.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1633589068537-screenshot_20211007-174346_instagram.jpg)

Beautiful words from one of my other all time favourite Tigers, Gaz!

Would like to see Benji back in some minor role, but can just imagine him Farah and Sheens outsing Madge.
 
@lauren said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488631) said:
Think some are entirely missing the point. Most articles are simply highlighting that his evolution as a player is a huge testament to his character and dedication to the game. It really has nothing to do with an anti-WT agenda.
The current NRL format is brutal and has become survival of the fittest, so his longevity is a proud achievement.

Plus despite his history with the club, and the varied states or strength/quality of the WTs teams, he's still considered a great playmaker and legend of the game regardless.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/10/07/attacking-force-of-nature-benjis-amazing-career-by-the-numbers/

*But as he blossomed into a top-line controlling half, his kicking and passing games flourished. From 2009 to 2012 Marshall registered 106 try assists – 19 more than the next best Johnathan Thurston (87).*

*He finishes his career with 261 try assists, 770 tackle busts, 96 tries and 121 line breaks. In the era of detailed record-keeping (2003-present) of these stats, only Thurston (324) and Cooper Cronk (283) are credited with more try-assists.*

*And among just halves, only Thurston has more busts (806) and line-breaks (153) while only Cronk (101) has more tries.*

![alt text](https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/2021/theplayoffs---week-4-grand-final/benji-stats_20211006.jpg?center=0.3%2C0.5&preset=photo-inline-small)

Now missed tackles ,turnovers ,kicks out on the full etc
 
@bagnf05 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488134) said:
@benjic said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488133) said:
if he was allowed to play origins he would be an imortal. all the other stars get more attention because they can play origin

Probably would have if he left WT and hooked up with Wayne earlier (glad he didn’t)

Could have been a star for the maroons.
New Zealand, that's in Queensland.
 
@jirskyr said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488505) said:
I'm sure it has always been on the cards to bring him back in some capacity. The same olive leaf was offered to Farah.

Except this time Pascoe hasn't spent 6 months in the sin bin.

I won't even mention the fine or the hit to the cap.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488635) said:
@lauren said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488631) said:
Think some are entirely missing the point. Most articles are simply highlighting that his evolution as a player is a huge testament to his character and dedication to the game. It really has nothing to do with an anti-WT agenda.
The current NRL format is brutal and has become survival of the fittest, so his longevity is a proud achievement.

Plus despite his history with the club, and the varied states or strength/quality of the WTs teams, he's still considered a great playmaker and legend of the game regardless.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/10/07/attacking-force-of-nature-benjis-amazing-career-by-the-numbers/

*But as he blossomed into a top-line controlling half, his kicking and passing games flourished. From 2009 to 2012 Marshall registered 106 try assists – 19 more than the next best Johnathan Thurston (87).*

*He finishes his career with 261 try assists, 770 tackle busts, 96 tries and 121 line breaks. In the era of detailed record-keeping (2003-present) of these stats, only Thurston (324) and Cooper Cronk (283) are credited with more try-assists.*

*And among just halves, only Thurston has more busts (806) and line-breaks (153) while only Cronk (101) has more tries.*

![alt text](https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/2021/theplayoffs---week-4-grand-final/benji-stats_20211006.jpg?center=0.3%2C0.5&preset=photo-inline-small)

Wow 2005 was a freak year for him. He played for 19 years but 1/6th of all his tries and line breaks were in the one year.

The way the game was played in that year suited WT down to the ground - particularly Benji.
 
Benji would be the perfect face of the Tigers , he could also help the lower grade halves learn , I would have him back at the tigers no problem
 
@thedaboss said in [Benji Marshall](/post/1488547) said:
Okay hear me out

Benji coaches west tigers in attack

Nec minit we see twal doing benji stepping and flicks all game 😅😅

I'd like to see that, but in reality it would more than likely be Stef doing that stuff.
 

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