Benji's back tonight for the Bronx *Spoilers

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Thaiday trying to break Bromwichs thumb again, such a character of our game

Heroically shoving people in the back while coming third man in again too. Absolute cat.

Thaiday is a cat no question. Vunivalu is a bit of a coward though, he was 3rd man in and was throwing punches at Kasiano from behind him in round 1\. Had to laugh at Vunivalu when he got up after Thaiday pushed him over, he tucked in straight behind Slater in case Thaiday threw a punch at him. Brave stuff!

 

[Geo]

Hopefully he knocks Billy unconscious when he gets on.
The Billy love-in on CH 9 is sickeningly similar to the Scummy Bill one a few years ago for the Roosters.

I'm just curios..Is there anything you do like about Rugby League…?

 

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Pip squeak ref we had last week has lost control here… Terribly weak ref

He was never a good ref, but for some reason his handling of the Good Friday / James Graham incident made him the best ref in the game…

He is weak as water

How was his warning to the Broncos…"Weve had an incident here, another down there, what Sims did here was rubbish, if we get another one........well.....err......we may take further action...."
Pfff...soft sock

Yep, what a joke. No wonder players have zero respect for them and walk all over them.
How Jesse Bromwich can stand at dummy half and pull the Broncos player at marker back over the top of the player playing the ball and not get penalized? The great lottery.

 

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Hopefully he knocks Billy unconscious when he gets on.
The Billy love-in on CH 9 is sickeningly similar to the Scummy Bill one a few years ago for the Roosters.

I'm just curios..Is there anything you do like about Rugby League…?

The cold stale hotdogs are good.

 

[jirskyr]

Unbelievably bad wrong call from video ref denies chambers a try to take the lead

I had this argument with my mate, you can't release the ball and claim to keep pressure on it with your arms. It's a knock on, you cant roll a ball over the line and claim to retain pressure.

Forearms are only ok for the initial grounding - over the line or kicks.

The current NRL laws:
https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEditor/Documents/NRL15_1651%20NRL%20Laws%20%20Interpretations_A4_Brochure_FA_2_Proof.pdf

Grounding the Ball includes:
a. Placing the ball on the ground with hand or hands, wrist or forearm
b. Exerting a downward pressure on the ball in contact with the ground
c. Dropping on the ball and covering it with the front part of the body above the waist and below the neck.
Section 2
A player who has had possession or touches/touched the ball and knocks the ball forward must regain possession (catch, hold or grip) prior to the ball hitting the ground, another player, goal post or cross bar.
For the ball to be deemed grounded, pressure must be applied by the player’s fingers, hand, wrist, forearm or torso so as to create a reasonable influence on the plane of the ball including the spin, rotation, momentum or bounce

Chambers had possession, he grounds it in front of the line, then he loses possession with his hands as he promotes it over the line. He needed to have held / gripped it to remain a try.

If he had placed it with his forearm on the line first, no drama. But it rolled up his arm after being released by the hand first.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Thaiday trying to break Bromwichs thumb again, such a character of our game

Heroically shoving people in the back while coming third man in again too. Absolute cat.

Maybe a rule that three defenders can only be used to stop the motion of a player, once that is achieved the third player must drop off or hold only. - terrific rule to police.

 

[innsaneink]

Unbelievably bad wrong call from video ref denies chambers a try to take the lead

I had this argument with my mate, you can't release the ball and claim to keep pressure on it with your arms. It's a knock on, you cant roll a ball over the line and claim to retain pressure.

Forearms are only ok for the initial grounding - over the line or kicks.

The current NRL laws:
https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEditor/Documents/NRL15_1651%20NRL%20Laws%20%20Interpretations_A4_Brochure_FA_2_Proof.pdf

Grounding the Ball includes:
a. Placing the ball on the ground with hand or hands, wrist or forearm
b. Exerting a downward pressure on the ball in contact with the ground
c. Dropping on the ball and covering it with the front part of the body above the waist and below the neck.
Section 2
A player who has had possession or touches/touched the ball and knocks the ball forward must regain possession (catch, hold or grip) prior to the ball hitting the ground, another player, goal post or cross bar.
For the ball to be deemed grounded, pressure must be applied by the player’s fingers, hand, wrist, forearm or torso so as to create a reasonable influence on the plane of the ball including the spin, rotation, momentum or bounce

Chambers had possession, he grounds it in front of the line, then he loses possession with his hands as he promotes it over the line. He needed to have held / gripped it to remain a try.

If he had placed it with his forearm on the line first, no drama. But it rolled up his arm after being released by the hand first.

Im sure ive seen tries like this in the past….maybe the bunker can clarify things for the mug at home usually left scratching his head, saying things like ''we can see hes lost possesion, have a decision blah blah'' when what we see is him not physically losing the ball, but technically yes...a simple brief explanation would go a long way
What happens often in the field of play and on the try line are two very different things....it would be play on if he was tackled on halfway and did that
Not every fan reads the rule book especially as its re interpreted each and every year

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Great game from JAC. The pace on the wing adds another dimension to the team.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Unbelievably bad wrong call from video ref denies chambers a try to take the lead

I had this argument with my mate, you can't release the ball and claim to keep pressure on it with your arms. It's a knock on, you cant roll a ball over the line and claim to retain pressure.

Forearms are only ok for the initial grounding - over the line or kicks.

The current NRL laws:
https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEditor/Documents/NRL15_1651%20NRL%20Laws%20%20Interpretations_A4_Brochure_FA_2_Proof.pdf

Grounding the Ball includes:
a. Placing the ball on the ground with hand or hands, wrist or forearm
b. Exerting a downward pressure on the ball in contact with the ground
c. Dropping on the ball and covering it with the front part of the body above the waist and below the neck.
Section 2
A player who has had possession or touches/touched the ball and knocks the ball forward must regain possession (catch, hold or grip) prior to the ball hitting the ground, another player, goal post or cross bar.
For the ball to be deemed grounded, pressure must be applied by the player’s fingers, hand, wrist, forearm or torso so as to create a reasonable influence on the plane of the ball including the spin, rotation, momentum or bounce

Chambers had possession, he grounds it in front of the line, then he loses possession with his hands as he promotes it over the line. He needed to have held / gripped it to remain a try.

If he had placed it with his forearm on the line first, no drama. But it rolled up his arm after being released by the hand first.

Im sure ive seen tries like this in the past….maybe the bunker can clarify things for the mug at home usually left scratching his head, saying things like ''we can see hes lost possesion, have a decision blah blah'' when what we see is him not physically losing the ball, but technically yes...a simple brief explanation would go a long way
What happens often in the field of play and on the try line are two very different things....it would be play on if he was tackled on halfway and did that
Not every fan reads the rule book especially as its re interpreted each and every year

I tuned in just before it and was cursing Sterlo making inaccurate comments during and post the decision. The bunker explanation could have been a bit better for many viewers by saying "lost contact with the hand" or similar to explain the losing control aspect.

Then again, who knows what downward pressure or control really means after the ball has been allowed to roll out to the finger tip/s and differing interpretations for some time now.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Was Benji at Lock?

No idea, but its probably not a bad idea if he was.

 

[stryker]

Chambers still had control when the ball touched the line. You could clearly see this from the last replay they showed, which incidently the bunker did not seem to spend any time watching.
Terrible decision that almost robbed the better side of victory.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I was listening on Triple M. Bill Harrigan was livid it wasn't awarded.

 

[Muffstar]

Great game from JAC. The pace on the wing adds another dimension to the team.

As does a dummy half who not just passes the ball, but runs and kicks it makes the opposition players focus on what he may do. If you have a dummy half who just passes the ball, then the focus will be on the player receiving the ball. Smith was brilliant last night as were Melbourne, they are such a great team to watch playing and so well coached.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Great game from JAC. The pace on the wing adds another dimension to the team.

As does a dummy half who not just passes the ball, but runs and kicks it makes the opposition players focus on what he may do. If you have a dummy half who just passes the ball, then the focus will be on the player receiving the ball. Smith was brilliant last night as were Melbourne, they are such a great team to watch playing and so well coached.

Very true and it was great to watch Smith from dummy half.

 

[jirskyr]

Chambers still had control when the ball touched the line. You could clearly see this from the last replay they showed, which incidently the bunker did not seem to spend any time watching.
Terrible decision that almost robbed the better side of victory.

You don't have control of the ball if it leaves your hand and touches the ground. That is the definition. You are not allowed to control the ball with your arm or torso against the ground if it has left your hands.

I'm not criticising you, I'm just telling you what the rule is that the bunker applies, you can read it for yourself.

 

[jirskyr]

Unbelievably bad wrong call from video ref denies chambers a try to take the lead

I had this argument with my mate, you can't release the ball and claim to keep pressure on it with your arms. It's a knock on, you cant roll a ball over the line and claim to retain pressure.

Forearms are only ok for the initial grounding - over the line or kicks.

The current NRL laws:
https://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEditor/Documents/NRL15_1651%20NRL%20Laws%20%20Interpretations_A4_Brochure_FA_2_Proof.pdf

Grounding the Ball includes:
a. Placing the ball on the ground with hand or hands, wrist or forearm
b. Exerting a downward pressure on the ball in contact with the ground
c. Dropping on the ball and covering it with the front part of the body above the waist and below the neck.
Section 2
A player who has had possession or touches/touched the ball and knocks the ball forward must regain possession (catch, hold or grip) prior to the ball hitting the ground, another player, goal post or cross bar.
For the ball to be deemed grounded, pressure must be applied by the player’s fingers, hand, wrist, forearm or torso so as to create a reasonable influence on the plane of the ball including the spin, rotation, momentum or bounce

Chambers had possession, he grounds it in front of the line, then he loses possession with his hands as he promotes it over the line. He needed to have held / gripped it to remain a try.

If he had placed it with his forearm on the line first, no drama. But it rolled up his arm after being released by the hand first.

Im sure ive seen tries like this in the past….maybe the bunker can clarify things for the mug at home usually left scratching his head, saying things like ''we can see hes lost possesion, have a decision blah blah'' when what we see is him not physically losing the ball, but technically yes...a simple brief explanation would go a long way
What happens often in the field of play and on the try line are two very different things....it would be play on if he was tackled on halfway and did that
Not every fan reads the rule book especially as its re interpreted each and every year

I tuned in just before it and was cursing Sterlo making inaccurate comments during and post the decision. The bunker explanation could have been a bit better for many viewers by saying "lost contact with the hand" or similar to explain the losing control aspect.

Then again, who knows what downward pressure or control really means after the ball has been allowed to roll out to the finger tip/s and differing interpretations for some time now.

I get the strong impression the Bunker has been instructed to make decisions as rapidly as possible. They do not muck about this year. I think this comes at the expense of some of the more elaborate explanation.

People who complain that the bunker didn't watch the replay enough times or use enough angles, that is directly in contrast to the criticism last year that the bunker took too long and got too involved in the play.

I can guarantee the top two metrics for bunker performance are accuracy of decision and speed.

 

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^If they are gonna use the video ref all that matters IMO is getting the decision CORRECT, speed of decision should be irrelevant (within reason of course). No point even going to the video ref if they are just gonna hurry the process to save seconds but get the decision wrong because of it. They got the Chambers decision right IMO, but I can see Ink's argument that tries have been awarded in exactly the same circumstances. It is the NRL's version of a chocolate-wheel, nobody has any bloody idea what the decision will be.

 

[innsaneink]

I think we should have a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon/Clinton style debate over this decision with Archer/Harrigan

 

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Balmain supporters amongst us would love to see Harrigan underneath that cement truck after his dubious perfornance in the '89 GF.

 

[greatodensraven]

How did Benji go?