Benny Elias bleeding us dry..?

shapmar

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Can anyone shed some light on something I "heard" the other day, it seems that Benny is running that Balmain leagues project that hasn't moved in years, which shut our leagues club, yet has been paid a very decent salary**POST EDITED BY ADMIN** for doin ?
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Page 3 of this document should address your concerns

http://tigers.org.au/beta/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tigers_news_September_smaller.pdf
 
Couldn't view that for some reason, but thanks… Powers of google lead me to this.. Gotta say, pretty disappointed, but hardly surprised.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&sourc ... y-MLJyxMgA
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Well just copy and paste it. Works for me. The article you reference in the SMH is directly refuted by the President of the Balmain Leagues Club.
 
Lets hope it all has a happy ending for both Balmain's stake & the JV. Trying to build a Taj Mahal in the middle of a Greenies/Lefties stronghold is going to take some doing but it looks like we have the State Govt. onside. MPO is a lot of very genuine people with Balmain interests at heart have put their faith in people that have the almighty $ at heart so it will be interesting where it all leads and the end result is a win-win for all concerned..
 
There was a revised plan that was mentioned in the Sunday papers (either last Sunday or the one before) that looked a lot more likely. Leagues club was a lot more visible and visually appealing going by the artists impression too.
 
@shapmar said:
Couldn't view that for some reason, but thanks… Powers of google lead me to this.. Gotta say, pretty disappointed, but hardly surprised.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&sourc ... y-MLJyxMgA
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This is basically the response by the club to the article you're referring to. Fairly strongly worded, and I'm surprised nothing has been done in regard to the false accusations of illegal activity by the club and Benny Elias.

Also, as mentioned by Yoss, the new application has been put in and the club is much more prominent it seems. Having a look at the initial stuff put out, the club has actually increased in size (in square meters terms), while the whole thing is about 20% smaller. Sounds like a good result for the Leagues Club if that is approved.

"Balmain Leagues Club Redevelopment Update

There has been much publicity these past few months surrounding the redevelopment of Balmain Leagues Club (TIGERS Balmain).

On behalf of all the members of Tigers Football Club and Leagues Club, I would like to respond to a highly inaccurate and misleading article in the Sydney Morning Herald - How Benny Elias put the bite on the
Tigers (June 30,2012).

The Tigers recognise Ben Elias as one of its greatest players, and now one of its greatest supporters, and one who personally took steps to ensure we would return to Balmain at a time when a global crisis was upon us and the financial world was close to complete collapse.

The financial support that Rozelle Village Pty Ltd has given to the Tigers is also critical to our survival. We know that the new home of the Tigers, the Rozelle Village development, will be a pathway to our growing membership and greater financial stability.

It is unfortunate the SMH has been provided with inaccurate and out of context information, which in turn has not been fully investigated by the paper.

To clarify just some of the inaccuracies:
‡
- The club did not sell the property in contravention of the Registered Clubs Act. The unequivocal statement to the contrary which is contained in the article represents a serious defamation of those involved in the process.
‡
- The property on Victoria Road at Rozelle was not sold by virtue of a document entitled “Heads of Agreement” nor was it sold by virtue of any decision of the Board. Any suggestion that it was sold by this process (without reference to members) is equally defamatory of those involved.
‡
- The decision to sell the property on Victoria Road at Rozelle was made by the members of the Club, not by the Board or by any member of it. The membership voted almost unanimously in favour of the proposal. They took the view, correctly, that the proposal represented by far the best way forward for the Club because to follow any other path would have meant that there was a strong likelihood that:-
‡ * The site would have been sold at or below the debt level
‡ * There would have been little if any surplus funds for the Club
‡ * There was unlikely to have been a commitment from a purchaser to relocate the Club back to the site as part of the redevelopment (the club would not have had control of that)
‡ * There would not have been any finance facility to assist the club in refurbishing interim sites or assist the club in working capital.The context of the time was within twelve months of the global financial crisis occurring.
‡
- Ironically, whilst at the same time as accusing the Club and its directors of failing to comply with the relevant legislative provisions, the article makes reference to the very meeting at which the membership made the decision to sell the property (almost unanimously). The author of the article is apparently ignorant of the significance of the meeting.

- Ben Elias disclosed his interest in the project to the Board and took a leave of absence from the Board prior to any negotiations regarding the project taking place between the Club and any entities associated with him. From the time of his leave of absence, he did not attend any Board meetings and did not participate in any business of the club. He resigned from the Board many months before the membership made the decision to sell the property.
‡
- Alex Lankry, who was quoted in the SMH as agreeing to finance the development, actually owes the Club (through entities which he controls) many tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid legal costs relating to costs orders made against him in the Supreme Court of New South Wales.

- Mark Wallis, quoted in the SMH article as being 'shouted down' at a members’ meeting, was permitted to speak at the meeting. Nobody grabbed the microphone from him. He has made no secret of the fact that, as a local resident, he opposes the development. In an article where accusations of conflict of interest are made in quite a cavalier fashion against others, one might speculate that his interests are more personal than they are related to the future of the Tigers.

In real terms, but for the deal struck between Rozelle Village and Balmain Leagues Club (including sale, redevelopment and loan agreements), it is highly likely that the club may have been forced to
either massively down size or possibly fold.

Over 9,000 people (not 7,000 as the article again incorrectly reports) have submitted their written support for the development to the Department of Planning. One man at a football game could not have made this happen as inferred by the SMH. Not even Ben Elias. This development is a good thing for the area, and a lifeline to a Club determined to regain it's financial strength.

Kevin Rooney
President"
 
Hope this gets resolved soon will be better for all concerned balmain and wests as we are a joint venture contrary to many peoples beliefs….
 
Thanks for all the input everyone, I probably should have researched it myself… It was just one of those WTF..? Moments. I thought it would take longer, but I'm starting to get optimistic about 2013, lets hope none of this kinda rubbish affects the already fragile playing dynamic.
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@Benjirific said:
@shapmar said:
Couldn't view that for some reason, but thanks… Powers of google lead me to this.. Gotta say, pretty disappointed, but hardly surprised.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&sourc ... y-MLJyxMgA
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This is basically the response by the club to the article you're referring to. Fairly strongly worded, and I'm surprised nothing has been done in regard to the false accusations of illegal activity by the club and Benny Elias.

Also, as mentioned by Yoss, the new application has been put in and the club is much more prominent it seems. Having a look at the initial stuff put out, the club has actually increased in size (in square meters terms), while the whole thing is about 20% smaller. Sounds like a good result for the Leagues Club if that is approved.

"Balmain Leagues Club Redevelopment Update

There has been much publicity these past few months surrounding the redevelopment of Balmain Leagues Club (TIGERS Balmain).

On behalf of all the members of Tigers Football Club and Leagues Club, I would like to respond to a highly inaccurate and misleading article in the Sydney Morning Herald - How Benny Elias put the bite on the
Tigers (June 30,2012).

The Tigers recognise Ben Elias as one of its greatest players, and now one of its greatest supporters, and one who personally took steps to ensure we would return to Balmain at a time when a global crisis was upon us and the financial world was close to complete collapse.

The financial support that Rozelle Village Pty Ltd has given to the Tigers is also critical to our survival. We know that the new home of the Tigers, the Rozelle Village development, will be a pathway to our growing membership and greater financial stability.

It is unfortunate the SMH has been provided with inaccurate and out of context information, which in turn has not been fully investigated by the paper.

To clarify just some of the inaccuracies:
‡
- The club did not sell the property in contravention of the Registered Clubs Act. The unequivocal statement to the contrary which is contained in the article represents a serious defamation of those involved in the process.
‡
- The property on Victoria Road at Rozelle was not sold by virtue of a document entitled “Heads of Agreement” nor was it sold by virtue of any decision of the Board. Any suggestion that it was sold by this process (without reference to members) is equally defamatory of those involved.
‡
- The decision to sell the property on Victoria Road at Rozelle was made by the members of the Club, not by the Board or by any member of it. The membership voted almost unanimously in favour of the proposal. They took the view, correctly, that the proposal represented by far the best way forward for the Club because to follow any other path would have meant that there was a strong likelihood that:-
‡ * The site would have been sold at or below the debt level
‡ * There would have been little if any surplus funds for the Club
‡ * There was unlikely to have been a commitment from a purchaser to relocate the Club back to the site as part of the redevelopment (the club would not have had control of that)
‡ * There would not have been any finance facility to assist the club in refurbishing interim sites or assist the club in working capital.The context of the time was within twelve months of the global financial crisis occurring.
‡
- Ironically, whilst at the same time as accusing the Club and its directors of failing to comply with the relevant legislative provisions, the article makes reference to the very meeting at which the membership made the decision to sell the property (almost unanimously). The author of the article is apparently ignorant of the significance of the meeting.

- Ben Elias disclosed his interest in the project to the Board and took a leave of absence from the Board prior to any negotiations regarding the project taking place between the Club and any entities associated with him. From the time of his leave of absence, he did not attend any Board meetings and did not participate in any business of the club. He resigned from the Board many months before the membership made the decision to sell the property.
‡
- Alex Lankry, who was quoted in the SMH as agreeing to finance the development, actually owes the Club (through entities which he controls) many tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid legal costs relating to costs orders made against him in the Supreme Court of New South Wales.

- Mark Wallis, quoted in the SMH article as being 'shouted down' at a members’ meeting, was permitted to speak at the meeting. Nobody grabbed the microphone from him. He has made no secret of the fact that, as a local resident, he opposes the development. In an article where accusations of conflict of interest are made in quite a cavalier fashion against others, one might speculate that his interests are more personal than they are related to the future of the Tigers.

In real terms, but for the deal struck between Rozelle Village and Balmain Leagues Club (including sale, redevelopment and loan agreements), it is highly likely that the club may have been forced to
either massively down size or possibly fold.

Over 9,000 people (not 7,000 as the article again incorrectly reports) have submitted their written support for the development to the Department of Planning. One man at a football game could not have made this happen as inferred by the SMH. Not even Ben Elias. This development is a good thing for the area, and a lifeline to a Club determined to regain it's financial strength.

Kevin Rooney
President"

Ha speak for himself it will be good for the area. Good to hear the club space will be better and the overall building has been scaled down if posts above are true.

On a side note:
"- Alex Lankry, who was quoted in the SMH as agreeing to finance the development, actually owes the Club (through entities which he controls) many tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid legal costs relating to costs orders made against him in the Supreme Court of New South Wales."

Bit unprofessional from a President. Thats what you would expect from a journo…
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Benjirific or Yoss are you able to put up a link with the latest revised plans for this development? I went to tigers.org.au & can't seem to find anything about the development there.
 
New coach, new WT reserve grade side, let's all move forward. Give Benny a break, if he is doing the wrong thing, eventually the truth will come out.
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@weststigers4life said:
Benjirific or Yoss are you able to put up a link with the latest revised plans for this development? I went to tigers.org.au & can't seem to find anything about the development there.

http://www.rozellevillage.com.au/
Has all the info as far as I'm aware.
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@tigermaniac said:
New coach, new WT reserve grade side, let's all move forward. Give Benny a break, if he is doing the wrong thing, eventually the truth will come out.
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Well said Tigermaniac, nothing wrong with disliking someone, just make it constructive criticism & there's no need to make it personal.

Thanks Anthism, that link isn't working with my computer but i'll google it later & have a look.
 
I hope Balmain as a 50% owner of WT can sort this mess out for the benefit of all concerned and financial security of WT
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@wtfl1981 said:
I hope Balmain as a 50% owner of WT can sort this mess out for the benefit of all concerned and financial security of WT
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x 2\. Eventually I'd like to see the club get away from using leagues club money, but it's a way off yet and Balmain have to meet their obligations.
 
@wtfl1981 said:
I hope Balmain as a 50% owner of WT can sort this mess out for the benefit of all concerned and financial security of WT
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X 2 . We'll only get stronger. Win win.
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@weststigers4life said:
Benjirific or Yoss are you able to put up a link with the latest revised plans for this development? I went to tigers.org.au & can't seem to find anything about the development there.

This is the recent article in the Sun Herald. Fairfax have run a pretty consistent negative campaign. Benny Elias has been downgraded to "championing" the project now…

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/balmain-haircut-fails-to-win-over-staunch-opponents-20121020-27y33.html
 
It's definitely a case of NIMBYism, the chance for young families to get not only affordable housing but have competive retailers on thdeir doorstep, LMC is willing to forgo millions of $$$ in revenue to protect what, I'd guess that most of the councillors are only newcomers to the area and their word is gospel, bugger the long term locals.
 
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
It's definitely a case of NIMBYism, the chance for young families to get not only affordable housing but have competive retailers on thdeir doorstep, LMC is willing to forgo millions of $$$ in revenue to protect what, I'd guess that most of the councillors are only newcomers to the area and their word is gospel, bugger the long term locals.

Don't want to get into it but its hardly newcomers that are against it.
Just a heads up, it's not going to be cheap for anyone except the people shopping.
Housing won't be cheap, current retail and shops will suffer with mainstream retail. Parking is probably the only advantage of the whole thing to the area other than the Tigers section.
Good luck affording to live there whilst working at one of the new "jobs" this place will provide…
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