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Agree with most. Play him less minutes. And perhaps give him a bit of time in the middle - he's clearly not agile enough defensively on an edge as the game goes on, but he can hit and stick. Plus he's a solid ball player, has good footwork and can offload well.

Blore is the perfect guy to rotate his minutes with. I don't see why we need to carry 3 props on the bench when we're just gonna have 3 hitups by backs every set anyway.
 
Give Lucy around 55-60 minutes every week

Who replaces him .........

Bloody hell...it seems forever since we had a quality second rower
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426091) said:
@spartan117 said in [Big LL](/post/1425993) said:
Luch isnt the issue, our entire Defence is an issue.

Teams roll through the centre easily and then flick it out wide for the score almost every game

Luch is a major issue for us. He can’t play 80mins and he doesn’t hold his position in defense. He comes infield more often than he should and gets found out quickly. He also stands back rather than come forward when defending which then creates a problem with AD and the center due to how much space is left for them to cover.

Agree, he either needs to come off around the 25 minute mark for a break, or comes off the bench as a strike player. The lack of football for Tuilagi and Blore is the other isssue Madge needs to contend with as none of our backrowers have 80 minutes in them.

I wonder if there is any merit in shifting Talau onto an edge as he's mobile and fit?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426119) said:
Give Lucy around 55-60 minutes every week

Who replaces him .........

Bloody hell...it seems forever since we had a quality second rower

Blore
 
Lucy unfortunately hasn't developed into the player we thought he would. Not as potent in attack as he used to be and his defence has deteriorated badly. I think moving forward he's an interchange player. I wouldn't be rushing to re-sign him.
 
@wswwt said in [Big LL](/post/1426452) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426119) said:
Give Lucy around 55-60 minutes every week

Who replaces him .........

Bloody hell...it seems forever since we had a quality second rower

Blore

And exactly what has Blore done ........
 
@happy_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426470) said:
@wswwt said in [Big LL](/post/1426452) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426119) said:
Give Lucy around 55-60 minutes every week

Who replaces him .........

Bloody hell...it seems forever since we had a quality second rower

Blore

And exactly what has Blore done ........

He did one really got tackle on Nathan Brown. Going to be a career highlight or maybe his whole career. The less he plays the better a player he is becoming.
 
Don’t think Blore has been given his shot yet.

Coming into most games off the bench when the game is gone it’s hard to judge. Though he hasn’t done anything since his debut that has wowed me, it’s not like he has done much wrong.

Defence and attitude is the main team issue and 57 tackles 1 missed is pretty solid.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Big LL](/post/1426465) said:
Lucy unfortunately hasn't developed into the player we thought he would. Not as potent in attack as he used to be and his defence has deteriorated badly. I think moving forward he's an interchange player. I wouldn't be rushing to re-sign him.

He does have a mistake or two in his game doesn't pass when he should and when he does the players not in a position to make something out of it.
 
Well the options at second row are; MCK, Blore and Tuilagi.

What I want
11 Blore
Bench Tuilagi

What Coach will pick
11 MCK
Bench Blore
 
@madge said in [Big LL](/post/1426741) said:
Well the options at second row are; MCK, Blore and Tuilagi.

What I want
11 Blore
Bench Tuilagi

What Coach will pick
11 MCK
Bench Blore

There is an excellent chance he'll pick MCK on one side and Joe O on the other.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Big LL](/post/1426746) said:
@madge said in [Big LL](/post/1426741) said:
Well the options at second row are; MCK, Blore and Tuilagi.

What I want
11 Blore
Bench Tuilagi

What Coach will pick
11 MCK
Bench Blore

There is an excellent chance he'll pick MCK on one side and Joe O on the other.

HAHAHA that thought slipped my head. That’s a lethal looking back row.
 
@willow said in [Big LL](/post/1426411) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426091) said:
@spartan117 said in [Big LL](/post/1425993) said:
Luch isnt the issue, our entire Defence is an issue.

Teams roll through the centre easily and then flick it out wide for the score almost every game

Luch is a major issue for us. He can’t play 80mins and he doesn’t hold his position in defense. He comes infield more often than he should and gets found out quickly. He also stands back rather than come forward when defending which then creates a problem with AD and the center due to how much space is left for them to cover.

Agree, he either needs to come off around the 25 minute mark for a break, or comes off the bench as a strike player. The lack of football for Tuilagi and Blore is the other isssue Madge needs to contend with as none of our backrowers have 80 minutes in them.

I wonder if there is any merit in shifting Talau onto an edge as he's mobile and fit?

I think Talau would be a very solid backrower if give. A season to bulk up and fill into the role.

Re Blore and Tuilagi they need to be played, if we are serious about there development and position moving forward as part of the nrl pathways with our injuries they have to get a run.

Letting them waste away with any footy for the next 8 weeks would be dumb and set them back.

Blore has really gone off the boil don’t know if he has an injury or whatever but it’s becoming a real concern.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Big LL](/post/1426746) said:
@madge said in [Big LL](/post/1426741) said:
Well the options at second row are; MCK, Blore and Tuilagi.

What I want
11 Blore
Bench Tuilagi

What Coach will pick
11 MCK
Bench Blore

There is an excellent chance he'll pick MCK on one side and Joe O on the other.

MCK another Mbye - happy to dance and skip around, shake hands with the opposition then go home and call it a day.
 
@tonytiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426777) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Big LL](/post/1426746) said:
@madge said in [Big LL](/post/1426741) said:
Well the options at second row are; MCK, Blore and Tuilagi.

What I want
11 Blore
Bench Tuilagi

What Coach will pick
11 MCK
Bench Blore

There is an excellent chance he'll pick MCK on one side and Joe O on the other.

MCK another Mbye - happy to dance and skip around, shake hands with the opposition then go home and call it a day.

That's his on field stuff...

Should see what he does off field!!

Play Playstation and cut hair !!

Another flop I can't wait is off the roster.
 
@izotope said in [Big LL](/post/1426792) said:
Not sure what Blore has done wrong, hes been strong every game he's played for us?

He has done nothing. Diddly squat. I reckon he needs more chances though.

He has had plenty of chances too. He seems to make his tackles though and that is why I'd give him a lot more time.

You can't just be a defensive edge backrower. We need some attack off him as well.
 
@earl said in [Big LL](/post/1426796) said:
@izotope said in [Big LL](/post/1426792) said:
Not sure what Blore has done wrong, hes been strong every game he's played for us?

He has done nothing. Diddly squat. I reckon he needs more chances though.

He has had plenty of chances too. He seems to make his tackles though and that is why I'd give him a lot more time.

You can't just be a defensive edge backrower. We need some attack off him as well.

Can't agree, seen him run the ball well and make his tackles, cover the inside.

Yes he hasnt busted tackles left right and centre yet but still single digits games
 
@earl said in [Big LL](/post/1426796) said:
@izotope said in [Big LL](/post/1426792) said:
Not sure what Blore has done wrong, hes been strong every game he's played for us?

He has done nothing. Diddly squat. I reckon he needs more chances though.

He has had plenty of chances too. He seems to make his tackles though and that is why I'd give him a lot more time.

You can't just be a defensive edge backrower. We need some attack off him as well.

Look at our back row ...look at our situation .....madge is a fool if he was holding him back

But in my opinion Blore and Seyfarth are getting hugely overrated .......Lucy / Madge probably has no other option than ply him for 80

Anyone who doubts the sad state of the WT's ...look at the blokes we are talking about .....none are really going to be To 10 players in their position in the NRL ...so depressing really
 
@happy_tiger said in [Big LL](/post/1426803) said:
@earl said in [Big LL](/post/1426796) said:
@izotope said in [Big LL](/post/1426792) said:
Not sure what Blore has done wrong, hes been strong every game he's played for us?

He has done nothing. Diddly squat. I reckon he needs more chances though.

He has had plenty of chances too. He seems to make his tackles though and that is why I'd give him a lot more time.

You can't just be a defensive edge backrower. We need some attack off him as well.

Look at our back row ...look at our situation .....madge is a fool if he was holding him back

But in my opinion Blore and Seyfarth are getting hugely overrated .......Lucy / Madge probably has no other option than ply him for 80

Anyone who doubts the sad state of the WT's ...look at the blokes we are talking about .....none are really going to be To 10 players in their position in the NRL ...so depressing really

Backrow a problem.
Centres a problem.

It's been this way since round 1....
Has anyone tried to address it?
 
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