Brexit becomes a reality

[fibrodreaming]

Oh, you mean the people who agree with you are the only ones whose vote should be valued?
All the others are dumbarse redneck racists I assume, who contribute nothing to the country and are not deserving of a say?
For the record, how do you know just as many people whose opinion differs from yours didn't first debate the merits before deciding on what they wanted?
Each man's vote is of equal value - even if you question its merit.

You've clearly just got some idea in your head that I'm some kind of arrogant, intellectual snob and you're just going to read everything I say from that perspective. No offence but I can't be bothered having an argument when that's your view.

Nelson, when people characterise those with whom they disagree as making decisions based on:

"…..... stupid, xenophobic reasons .....", as you did in your earlier post, It comes across as patronising.

 

[Paris_Cobbs]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

 

[Nelson]

Oh, you mean the people who agree with you are the only ones whose vote should be valued?
All the others are dumbarse redneck racists I assume, who contribute nothing to the country and are not deserving of a say?
For the record, how do you know just as many people whose opinion differs from yours didn't first debate the merits before deciding on what they wanted?
Each man's vote is of equal value - even if you question its merit.

You've clearly just got some idea in your head that I'm some kind of arrogant, intellectual snob and you're just going to read everything I say from that perspective. No offence but I can't be bothered having an argument when that's your view.

Nelson, when people characterise those with whom they disagree as making decisions based on:

"…..... stupid, xenophobic reasons .....", as you did in your earlier post, It comes across as patronising.

Why does it come across as patronising? Are people who dislike racism and decisions based on it not entitled to be passionate about it? It's just a fact that there were unashamedly racist groups in the UK who were pushing the exit vote. I don't think that's a good way to make a decision - like I said I think it's a stupid way to make a decision, so I said it was stupid.

 

[westTAHger]

The people have decided.
The people will now have to live with their decision, whether it be good or bad.

 

[newtiger]

The way things have been going all that's needed now is for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to become the next US President. After the referendum who knows what can happen in politics.

Last I was on holidays with some Americans and they said that most of them have had a gut full of PC and pandering to minority groups.
This is why Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is so popular with middle America, the names that they called Obama would be deleted on this forum.
I don't like Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, but don't be surprised if he gets elected.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

I think you will be proven correct, except for sixteen year olds voting. Little doubt that those likely about to be most affected will have to live with the decisions of their grandparents etc.

From my limited knowledge of reports, it seems that those in the rural areas that are generally not affected nor in contact with the percieved poison of immigrants voted to exit, whist those that are familiar with and living amongst them, particularly the young, voted overwhelmingly to stay.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Really that's what democracy is. Perhaps the Remain group should have engaged the public a bit more and encouraged a bigger turnout. Can't whinge about it if you didn't show up and have your say, much like when I hear about people voting informally and then sulking about whomever gets in during the election period here.

 

[stryker]

Oh, you mean the people who agree with you are the only ones whose vote should be valued?
All the others are dumbarse redneck racists I assume, who contribute nothing to the country and are not deserving of a say?
For the record, how do you know just as many people whose opinion differs from yours didn't first debate the merits before deciding on what they wanted?
Each man's vote is of equal value - even if you question its merit.

You've clearly just got some idea in your head that I'm some kind of arrogant, intellectual snob and you're just going to read everything I say from that perspective. No offence but I can't be bothered having an argument when that's your view.

What do you expect when you enter the discussion stating one sides reasoning was floored and it was due to ignorance that the result landed where it did?

 

[Tigerdave]

Friends of a mate of mine said they voted to Leave, but were already expecting things to be difficult for some time and still voted Leave anyway. Apparently the work situation under the EU is not that great.

I think it's been building for some time.

 

[Nelson]

Oh, you mean the people who agree with you are the only ones whose vote should be valued?
All the others are dumbarse redneck racists I assume, who contribute nothing to the country and are not deserving of a say?
For the record, how do you know just as many people whose opinion differs from yours didn't first debate the merits before deciding on what they wanted?
Each man's vote is of equal value - even if you question its merit.

You've clearly just got some idea in your head that I'm some kind of arrogant, intellectual snob and you're just going to read everything I say from that perspective. No offence but I can't be bothered having an argument when that's your view.

What do you expect when you enter the discussion stating one sides reasoning was floored and it was due to ignorance that the result landed where it did?

If people want to get butt hurt over open discussion about it then it probably says something about their own insecurity. Those were factors in the decision, there's no point having a discussion about a magical fantasy land where they weren't factors.

I assume people who think the other way would think my reasoning is flawed and stupid. That's fine, the majority and the minority are entitled to their views and they're entitled to think the other side are wrong and stupid.

 

[happy_tiger]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

I think you will be proven correct, except for sixteen year olds voting. Little doubt that those likely about to be most affected will have to live with the decisions of their grandparents etc.

From my limited knowledge of reports, it seems that those in the rural areas that are generally not affected nor in contact with the percieved poison of immigrants voted to exit, whist those that are familiar with and living amongst them, particularly the young, voted overwhelmingly to stay.

And isn't it the same with everything in life , the decisions we are currently making affects everything in our kids , grandkids and great grandkids lives

Think of what's happening with Global Warming , supposedly on the 6/6/2016 we went past the point of no return in regards to CO 2 levels and it barely made news

Bet it didn't make you want to go out and change the world or change your habits

Whether the information was bogus or not , shouldn't we have stopped and thought "Holy Moly , we need to do something for our OWN families futures , let alone the planets futures "

 

[Geo]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

I think you will be proven correct, except for sixteen year olds voting. Little doubt that those likely about to be most affected will have to live with the decisions of their grandparents etc.

From my limited knowledge of reports, it seems that those in the rural areas that are generally not affected nor in contact with the percieved poison of immigrants voted to exit, whist those that are familiar with and living amongst them, particularly the young, voted overwhelmingly to stay.

And isn't it the same with everything in life , the decisions we are currently making affects everything in our kids , grandkids and great grandkids lives

Think of what's happening with Global Warming , supposedly on the 6/6/2016 we went past the point of no return in regards to CO 2 levels and it barely made news

Bet it didn't make you want to go out and change the world or change your habits

Whether the information was bogus or not , shouldn't we have stopped and thought "Holy Moly , we need to do something for our OWN families futures , let alone the planets futures "

Saw the movie…The Kingsmen...the host kills the virus or the virus kills the host...we are the virus....Samuel L Jackson is never wrong...

 

[happy_tiger]

http://www.9news.com.au/World/2016/06/25/20/11/More-than-one-million-people-sign-petition-calling-for-second-referendum-for-Britain-to-leave-the-EU

 

[happy_tiger]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

I think you will be proven correct, except for sixteen year olds voting. Little doubt that those likely about to be most affected will have to live with the decisions of their grandparents etc.

From my limited knowledge of reports, it seems that those in the rural areas that are generally not affected nor in contact with the percieved poison of immigrants voted to exit, whist those that are familiar with and living amongst them, particularly the young, voted overwhelmingly to stay.

And isn't it the same with everything in life , the decisions we are currently making affects everything in our kids , grandkids and great grandkids lives

Think of what's happening with Global Warming , supposedly on the 6/6/2016 we went past the point of no return in regards to CO 2 levels and it barely made news

Bet it didn't make you want to go out and change the world or change your habits

Whether the information was bogus or not , shouldn't we have stopped and thought "Holy Moly , we need to do something for our OWN families futures , let alone the planets futures "

Saw the movie…The Kingsmen...the host kills the virus or the virus kills the host...we are the virus....Samuel L Jackson is never wrong...

True dat

 

[Tim Sheens]

Cameron's biggest mistake was not having the courage to lower the voting age to 16\. It's the 16s that will have to live with this idiotic decision.

I think you will be proven correct, except for sixteen year olds voting. Little doubt that those likely about to be most affected will have to live with the decisions of their grandparents etc.

From my limited knowledge of reports, it seems that those in the rural areas that are generally not affected nor in contact with the percieved poison of immigrants voted to exit, whist those that are familiar with and living amongst them, particularly the young, voted overwhelmingly to stay.

And isn't it the same with everything in life , the decisions we are currently making affects everything in our kids , grandkids and great grandkids lives

Think of what's happening with Global Warming , supposedly on the 6/6/2016 we went past the point of no return in regards to CO 2 levels and it barely made news

Bet it didn't make you want to go out and change the world or change your habits

Whether the information was bogus or not , shouldn't we have stopped and thought "Holy Moly , we need to do something for our OWN families futures , let alone the planets futures "

Saw the movie…The Kingsmen...the host kills the virus or the virus kills the host...we are the virus....Samuel L Jackson is never wrong...

Though he could have just turned down the aircon temp to sort out the snake problem he encountered on the plane.

On climate change or whatever one wants to call the impending situation, well it is a leadership issue for mine and that is where our current PM really lets us down. He knows it is a big problem, just as Greg Hunt does, yet they allow themselves as liberals to be silenced by their conservative controllers that are up them past the elbow.

I often look at my son and fear for his future amid the inaction at the moment. Even if it turns out that we as a race were having little effect, the loss of a little of our prosperity is negligible compared to the potentially catastrophic result otherwise.

A simple analogy is how many home owners dont insure their building against potential loss when the cost is relatively minimal. Not many, because it is foolish not to.

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

Personally there should be a number of Australian states that de-merge with the Federation, NSW has propped up other under performing States for far too long!.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Brandan O'Neill comments on BRExit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJLIT_lSKDE